Forum Charter -Please Read

[Sticky]Forum Charter -Please Read!

Welcome to the Home Security Forum

General note. This forum is a splinter from the electrical forum, the electrical forum was a splinter from the DIY forum. With that in mind, please note that its perfectly fine to install an alarm or CCTV system in your own home. This is a good place for advice on same.

Important Note:


Do not ask for or respond to any posts that request information relating to circumventing an intruder alarm system. This includes silencing alarm, removing alarms or any action that compromises the security of a system no matter how innocent or genuine the request may seem.


When looking for advice on what alarm system to install, try to mix user experience with some of the installer advice that you will get here, like all walks of life people have some brand loyalty, it's all good etc. but like most product selection decisions, its advisable to get customer and user reviews.


What is this forum for?

Principally, the discussion of
Home security related matters (Intruder Alarms, CCTV, Access Control etc).The sharing of expertise (if you wouldn't like certain information shared about your company, don't provide it about others, i.e. be fair)To promote health and safety behavior when working, at home, at work or wherever.
That's the serious definition. In practice, any and all contributions are welcomed, once they follow the forum topic. Boards.ie has, in its users, a great variety of knowledge and experience, and we will try to help wherever possible.

Off topic posting will however be moved to a more relevant forum. Also please do not use "text talk" on this forum, there is no need to limit or shorten your words. Please remember that this is a sub forum of the home and garden section and is essentially concerned with providing and sharing information within the boards community. There are other better places to talk about these issues on boards where a broader range of input is available. It’s just not on this forum. Repeat offenders of this rule could end up being banned from the forum. If you have an issue with something in a thread PM a Mod please.


Can I ask about Home Security DIY matters here?

Yes, you can. However, users should make every effort to verify advice expressed herein with an independent and knowledgeable third party before undertaking any work, refer to the electrical forum for advice on mains electrical works.

The advice and opinions expressed on this forum are not those of Boards.ie, and the management accepts no responsibility for what is written and posted here. Boards.ie and its contributors do not accept liability should your house burn down due to following advice or opinions expressed on this forum.



Discussing Intruder Alarm Issues

Everyone is allowed an opinion, however only licensed PSA installers can certify an Intruder Alarm. Therefore recommending non PSA Installers for the supply, installation and certification of Intruder Alarms in not allowed on this forum.



Can I share Engineering/User Codes or Requesting an Engineering/User Codes?

No. We've taken the position to ban requesting and sharing engineering codes for alarm systems. If you want the engineering/user code for a company please contact them yourself. We do not want boards.ie to be a conduit to obtain engineering or user codes. This is our position on same and will remain so until instructed to alter it. We are not influenced by what goes on elsewhere or what has gone on in the past. We don't hold an opinion on the ownership of these codes so we have no need to debate it. This is a simple position we have taken to isolate boards.ie from such requests please respect it.

Can I advertise my business here?

In short, no. Advertising for free is not permitted on boards. However, as it is appreciated that many professionals offer advice here FOC, if you wish to post a discreet link in your signature, that is not a problem. Please note that a sticky is now in place on the forum, where contractors who are also Boards.ie members may be listed. Drop a PM to the mods if you would like to be included on this list, you will need to verify your PSA licence information.

Advertorials

We all know that advertising and commercial promotion is not allowed on boards.ie, unless it's agreed through the commercial process.
Therefore straight forward advertising is killed quickly, as is shilling. We've agreed to stretch this to Advertorials, "adverts disguised as regular content". That means pushing products or services that you are commercially aligned with or a named distributor of. We understand that the advice can still be very helpful, but posters must disclose their position in the posts that promote said products or services.

Can I ask for someone to certify my work for me?

No you can not. Such threads will be closed and the user asking will be banned from the forum, as will any user accepting the invitation.

Do standard Boards.ie rules apply?

Yes, they do. In short, no spamming, trolling, flaming or general muppetry. Personal abuse, defamatory posting (see below), and blatant advertising (see also below) will result in bans dependent on the severity of the offence. Repeated making false statements and or excessive pushing of a manufacturer or service can result in a ban, particularly if that information is false. If you question a moderators ruling please do so over PM to the moderator, do not initiate an open discussion on a mod decision on the forum please. If you are unhappy with a decision you can take it above a mods head to the disputes resolution forum where a dedicated thread on the subject can be opened.


Can I ask for or offer legal advice here?

Again, in short, no. This is a forum within a DIY section. There are better places on boards to talk about legal or employment rights issues. These discussions do take place on boards, but not here please.

Defamation occurs where a false statement is published about a person which tends to lower that person in the eyes of right-thinking members of society. Defamation is a generic term slander is defamation in a transient form, while libel is defamation in written or permanent (or equivalent) form. (From Digital Rights Ireland)


Trade Issues

Discussion relating to trade issues, industrial disputes, unions and pay rates will not be permitted on this forum. This topic can be discussed in the Work & Jobs Forum.


Restricted Electrical Works

Since the 1st of October 2013 it has been illegal for a non-Registered Electrical Contractor to carry out most electrical work in domestic premises. Refer to the Restricted Works Decision Paper published by the Commission of Energy Regulation (CER). As detailed in the above document Minor electrical works are exempt from this legislation. Further clarification on minor electrical works was obtained by email from CER can be seen here.


Illegal Acts or "Nixers"

Illegality is... illegal.
This rule means no advocating, no condoning, and no soliciting or providing information about means of breaking the law including the Restricted Electrical Works Legislation (see above) and the evasion of taxes. No discussion of any cash prices, all costs to include VAT.


Disclaimer

With respect to connections to mains electrical systems. Any electrical equipment may use or produce dangerous high voltages and may contain components running at hazardous temperatures. Great care must always be taken when working on such equipment, especially when it is powered and shortly after it has been powered. The absence of any specific safety warning does NOT imply that the action is safe. Live equipment and apparatus is always dangerous. If you are in any way unsure about your ability to work with electrical equipment safely, please refer the work to a qualified and experienced electrical contractor. A list of reputable contractors can be found on

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Be Safe: Let qualified certified people work with mains electricity.


Moderation of this forum

Since the inception of this forum a hands off approach to moderation has been applied with the intention of encouraging people to post, ask questions, discuss and debate. An absolute minimum of posts have been deleted or edited and a minimum of infractions, warnings and bans have dished out. It has been suggested that we've let things slip a little lately. There have been a number of remarks and posts that have certainly provoked an emotional response. So from now on we are looking at things differently, th mods have discussed this and we aim to nip things in the bud as early as possible. We are asking for your help please, mainly by reporting posts quickly.

First of all, if you think you are better qualified than someone please keep it to yourself, it is of no use to us here. If you are a smart person making stupid remarks, or a not so smart person trying to make smart remarks, we are not going let them sit. Please report these types of comments. They are really games of one-upmanship and of zero value to the forum. We are also looking for help to stop passive trolling please. Please do not engage in games and then report posts when you decide it has gone too far, it wasting everyone's time. By all means we are interested in innocent posters being treated unfairly, but please acknowledge your own part in how the situation arose. If you honestly think that your intentions were genuine yet, you were unfairly treated please report the post, if not please don't waste everyone's time. Please try to focus on answering the questions in the forums and discussing topics for the right solution, not the last word. Indeed if you think that the fact that you work in the industry means that you are the authority on technical issues, it's the wrong attitude, if you are from another trade and think your trade is better, please keep that opinion to yourself or on another forum. The same goes for engineers/electricians thinking they know more than others, this is a place to share knowledge, not win petty arguments or business.

Copy right policy

Boards.ie policy on sharing copyright material

Please note that sharing or linking to sources that share information without the copyright holders permission is against the forum charter.
If a manufacturer has a link to their products available on the public realm there is no issue sharing it.
Offering to PM or linking to sites that hold this information without the copyright holder's permission is not permitted.

Thank you all, we are sure you understand our position on this.

Three strike Policy

In light of the constant bickering and petty derailing of threads we have decided to trail a three strike ban system.
Reset 20/7/18. Strike 3 is a permanent ban, so your third ban is final form the forum



Most importantly, enjoy the forum!