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Yellow vest movement ireland

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    #302
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,736 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Yeah but come on.

    Nowadays the world is one big self indulged massive consumption of everything.

    One example. You can now “binge” your favorite tv show.

    Years ago you waited a week.

    Or get food or clothes or music the instantly if you want.

    It’s gone off the scale and now people think housing etc should be instant too.

    There’s no working towards things anymore.

    Cool your jets, Grandad.


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    #303
    Fiftyfilthy
    Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Fiftyfilthy


    sorry couldnt attend, was rainy and its almost xmas.......

    usual keyboard warriors on social media met with their weak excuses.

    not really going to see any momentum with this movement as people just cant be bothered...... or are too busy working and keeping a roof over their heads


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    #304
    caff
    Registered Users Posts: 954 ✭✭✭caff


    I think any chance the movement has here is now poisoned as Ben Gilroy and other nutjobs have taken it as their own


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    #305
    EdgeCase
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭EdgeCase


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Cool your jets, Grandad.

    Propellers! People these days with their fancy jets. It was all steam powered propellers and you had do dig your own coal to run them.


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    #306
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    caff wrote: »
    I think any chance the movement has here is now poisoned as Ben Gilroy and other nutjobs have taken it as their own


    This happens with a lot of movements. It's happened with the Housing movement to an extent as it's been hijacked by people like Margaret Cash, who anyone struggling to save a deposit have nothing in common with.



    It's interesting how the water charges movement developed differently. SF staying away from it until it was a proven vote-winner may have been the best thing that ever happened to it.


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    #307
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Cool your jets, Grandad.

    It’s called been realistic and living in the real world.


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    #308
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,473 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Many of their demands are bordering on the ridiculous, it discredits any potential movement.

    Flicking through his FB stuff yer man Gilroy just comes across as an anti establishment nut job who’s mouth is bigger than his ideas. These guys love the sound of their own voice and you could see the kick he was getting from being cheered on, pure self indulgence.

    Why don’t these guys go off and form a political party and get them selves elected and make changes in the appropriate manner. No, that would take hard work and need support from the public, it would quash his meetings in Eddie rockets.

    Last time I looked their list of demands have received a whole 98 signatures online - not such an impressive movement.


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    #309
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,129 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    _Brian wrote: »
    Many of their demands are bordering on the ridiculous, it discredits any potential movement.

    Flicking through his FB stuff yer man Gilroy just comes across as an anti establishment nut job who’s mouth is bigger than his ideas. These guys love the sound of their own voice and you could see the kick he was getting from being cheered on, pure self indulgence.

    Why don’t these guys go off and form a political party and get them selves elected and make changes in the appropriate manner. No, that would take hard work and need support from the public, it would quash his meetings in Eddie rockets.

    Last time I looked their list of demands have received a whole 98 signatures online - not such an impressive movement.


    Gilroy has stood for election 3 times and failed miserably every time.


    https://electionsireland.org/candidate.cfm?ID=10037


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    #310
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,473 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Gilroy has stood for election 3 times and failed miserably every time.


    https://electionsireland.org/candidate.cfm?ID=10037

    The people have spoken so, he should take the hint.


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    #311
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,066 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    wrangler wrote: »
    In general, young are better off now than those that grew up in the 50s and 60s, I don't have a medical card probably never will, I wouldn't think wealthy pensioners can get a medical card,


    Everybody over 70 gets a GP visit card.

    So millionaires over 70 who visit the GP are paid for by people earning modest wages who earn a bit above the GMS med card means test limit.


    Also, the means test for the full med card for over 70s is much more generous than the regular means test.


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    #312
    ligerdub
    Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    _Brian wrote: »
    The people have spoken so, he should take the hint.

    I assume you'd have said the same to Brid Smith and Luke Flanagan so.


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    #313
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,056 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Geuze wrote: »
    Everybody over 70 gets a GP visit card.

    So millionaires over 70 who visit the GP are paid for by people earning modest wages who earn a bit above the GMS med card means test limit.


    Also, the means test for the full med card for over 70s is much more generous than the regular means test.

    A friend who's a GP in the west says they only get circa €20/mth for every over 70s GP Visit card and some seriously abuse it, maybe coming two or three times a week, then a paying patient has to pay too much to ensure the GP stays in business...... again the private patients being loaded.
    Can we seriously expect to get the same service when we produce the over 70 visit card. To be fair I don't think we can.
    I have a very good GP here and would gladly continue to pay past 70, but it would annoy me that the visit fee was too high because of old codgers in for a chat.


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    #314
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,473 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    ligerdub wrote: »
    I assume you'd have said the same to Brid Smith and Luke Flanagan so.
    Luke's just a noisy empty vessel


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    #315
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    As low-middle income I am in complete and utter despair in Dublin, living conditions are absolute hell hole (and the alternatives are worse). For a vairety of personal and health reasons cant move elsewhere. Even though I make more money than I would in other European cities, it is pointless with the price of rent and necessities. When it comes to education, career etc I dont think I am a failure at all, but what we have to live in just to have a roof over our heads is beyond deplorable - and again, it gets worse from this. Didnt know such misery was possible.


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    #316
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,613 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Ireland is tiny. We do have hospitals across the country and you can pretty much travel anywhere in under 3 hours.

    Anyone can move outside Dublin should they choose to.

    Dublin has mad prices in it. I moved to get more quality of life and more value for money.

    Be damned if in was spending multiples of my salary on a shoebox with an allocated car space.


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    #317
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    The_Brood wrote: »
    As low-middle income I am in complete and utter despair in Dublin, living conditions are absolute hell hole (and the alternatives are worse). For a vairety of personal and health reasons cant move elsewhere. Even though I make more money than I would in other European cities, it is pointless with the price of rent and necessities. When it comes to education, career etc I dont think I am a failure at all, but what we have to live in just to have a roof over our heads is beyond deplorable - and again, it gets worse from this. Didnt know such misery was possible.

    Bob Cratchett, ladies and gentlemen.


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    #318
    Suckler
    Registered Users Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭Suckler


    listermint wrote: »
    Ireland is tiny. We do have hospitals across the country and you can pretty much travel anywhere in under 3 hours.

    Problem with these yellow vest type protesters is everyone wants a specialist unit/A&E/Paediatrics all in their local big town despite not having the justifiable population to get the use out of it.


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    #319
    realitykeeper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    johndeere3350 wrote: »
    I wonder is it time something like this happens here.
    Personally the fuel tax here bothers me the most.
    It seems the young working class have no hope of getting on the property ladder.
    The latest brainwave by Shane Ross seems to have pissed off alot of people.
    These measures would be all well and good if we had a top class road network around the country if our motor tax wasn't outrageous.
    Some people could drive five or six different vehicles everyday I can imagine how many licences will be lost or misplaced.
    The hospital and bed situation is absolutely dire.
    Discuss

    Maybe Macron should give in and tell people that when the consequences of global warming kick in, they will only have themselves to blame. Alternatively, maybe what he should have done is pretend global warming is not real and let the people demand the fuel tax.


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    PeadarCo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭PeadarCo


    ligerdub wrote:
    I assume you'd have said the same to Brid Smith and Luke Flanagan so.

    To get an idea what Gilroy is like head across to freeman mega thread on the legal forum. The guy is a pure conman who takes advantage of vulnerable people in difficult situations. He swindles people out of money and makes their situation far far worse. If you want to organise a new movement having a proven conman like Gilroy as one of the leading faces isn't the way to go.


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    #321
    [Deleted User]
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    Geuze wrote: »
    Everybody over 70 gets a GP visit card.

    So millionaires over 70 who visit the GP are paid for by people earning modest wages who earn a bit above the GMS med card means test limit.


    Also, the means test for the full med card for over 70s is much more generous than the regular means test.
    In the UK, free GP visits on the NHS is open to all.
    Universal healthcare is not a bad idea.

    The wealthier people would choose to go to private hospitals anyway.


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    #322
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    PeadarCo wrote: »
    To get an idea what Gilroy is like head across to freeman mega thread on the legal forum. The guy is a pure conman who takes advantage of vulnerable people in difficult situations. He swindles people out of money and makes their situation far far worse. If you want to organise a new movement having a proven conman like Gilroy as one of the leading faces isn't the way to go.

    Another charlatan is that David Hall.


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    #323
    Dr Strange
    Registered Users Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭Dr Strange


    Apparently they just blocked the Port Tunnel.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/yellow-vests-ireland-port-tunnel-4417137-Dec2018/


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    #324
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Morons.

    Now pretending it’s about the middle class.

    Bandwagon merchants.


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    #325
    PuppyMcPupFace
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 255 ✭✭PuppyMcPupFace


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    Morons.

    Now pretending it’s about the middle class.

    Bandwagon merchants.

    They give not a ****e about anyone who works for a living. They make me sick.


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    #326
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,014 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    ... and this is why it'll never catch on here. People simply don't know how to protest without pissing off the very people they need to try and get to support them.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #327
    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    ... and this is why it'll never catch on here. People simply don't know how to protest without pissing off the very people they need to try and get to support them.

    Yep. Protest is ineffective in Ireland. You want to do an effective blockade you block varadkar or murphy in their apartments you dont block regular people


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    #328
    PuppyMcPupFace
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 255 ✭✭PuppyMcPupFace


    P_1 wrote: »
    Yep. Protest is ineffective in Ireland. You want to do an effective blockade you block varadkar or murphy in their apartments you dont block regular people

    Late entry for most idiotic suggestion there.


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    #329
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,321 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Dr Strange wrote: »
    Apparently they just blocked the Port Tunnel.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/yellow-vests-ireland-port-tunnel-4417137-Dec2018/

    Fcuking gimps. It's the same Freemen of the Land crowd of idiots that Ben Gilroy was knocking around with in the past, they're just trying to rebrand themselves with a few hi-vis vests.


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    #330
    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    PuppyMcPupFace wrote: »
    Late entry for most idiotic suggestion there.

    Oh go shove a rusty bayonet up your back passage


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    #331
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,321 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    "Protesters could be seen holding a “Yellow Vest movement Ireland” banner, an Irish flag, and a banner with details of ClimateChangeAgenda.com, a website with promotes chemtrail conspiracy theories."

    Crackpots and cranks. Lunatics like Gemma O'Doherty and John Waters will be lining up with them soon.


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