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Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

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  • #7142
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Efforts to interfere with the elections in 2018 have actually increased since 2016 rather than dereased.

    I guess something gives Russia the impression they are safe to continue.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #7143
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,722 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    It was said on CNN that the agreement the US and Russia has doesn't include China and that the Chinese can get a warfare advantage by not being in that treaty.
    If Russia has violated it, then it should be proven, if China is the real reason, then the Chinese should be brought into discussions to get them into the treaty.


  • #7144
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,722 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Efforts to interfere with the elections in 2018 have actually increased since 2016 rather than dereased.

    I guess something gives Russia the impression they are safe to continue.

    Yeah the British are doing a great job in encouraging Russia, with Russian interference in the Brexit referendum and by saying the subsequent result is the will of the people.


  • #7145
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Yeah the British are doing a great job in encouraging Russia, with Russian interference in the Brexit referendum and by saying the subsequent result is the will of the people.

    Sorry?

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #7146
    amandstu
    Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭amandstu


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Sorry?

    What you have no gobbledegook translator?


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  • #7147
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    One of the biggest travesties of the Trump reign is that it is unlikely he will be alive to face any consequences.


  • #7148
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    batgoat wrote: »
    https://hillreporter.com/trump-administration-proposes-new-religious-law-that-attacks-lgbtq-workers-10975

    Looks to be a new law in the works that will attack LGBTQ community, would allow for LGBTQ staff to be fired for their sexuality on religious grounds.


    But he held up a flag so there will be a few that will still claim he's good on lgbtq issues...

    Just to add to this piece of news, here's another clear and demonstrable attack on the LGBT community: this time the 'T' part in a floated proposition' to rollback protections during the Obama admin, and "... define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html

    The idea that this administration has any compassion or interest in maintaining - or indeed building upon - LGBT rights is not just false but downright farcical. And what few individuals from that community that might follow him can only be best described as Uncle Toms.


  • #7149
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    No cause you see I saw Trump with one of those LGBT flags before...

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #7150
    Rhineshark
    Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Rhineshark


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Yeah the British are doing a great job in encouraging Russia, with Russian interference in the Brexit referendum and by saying the subsequent result is the will of the people.

    While the poster was probably referring to the Trump admin's utter lack of any sort of defensive preparation against Russian interference and indeed reacting angrily to any suggestion that the 2016 election was interfered with at all (and then saying it was rigged for Clinton), the UK political reaction to interference (completely ignoring it, refusing to investigate it and chanting "will of the people" like mindless robots) was no doubt encouraging too.


  • #7151
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 12,914 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    One of the biggest travesties of the Trump reign is that it is unlikely he will be alive to face any consequences.

    He's faced hardly any consequences for anything in his life. Bankrupt how many times? He's been divorced twice, so I suppose that's sort-of consquential for him.

    Even if he's ever convicted of anything, he'll never serve time. I don't think he'll lose his secret service protection even if he's impeached and how could you imprison him in a prison? Maybe house arrest if he's found to be treasonous.

    The most hurt that could be laid on him is to take the money and the TV cameras away. Won't happen, he'll end up a Fox commentator.


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  • #7152
    Stallingrad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    One of the biggest travesties of the Trump reign is that it is unlikely he will be alive to face any consequences.

    I'd like to see that theory tested as soon as possible.


  • #7153
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Igotadose wrote: »
    He's faced hardly any consequences for anything in his life. Bankrupt how many times? He's been divorced twice, so I suppose that's sort-of consquential for him.

    Even if he's ever convicted of anything, he'll never serve time. I don't think he'll lose his secret service protection even if he's impeached and how could you imprison him in a prison? Maybe house arrest if he's found to be treasonous.

    The people who are going to carry the can for his antics are his children and Kushner - they are all up to their eyeballs in rampant corruption.


  • #7154
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 12,914 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    The people who are going to carry the can for his antics are his children and Kushner - they are all up to their eyeballs in rampant corruption.

    I've no problem with that. They know who they're dealing with. All of them are capable of distancing themselves from him, but they enjoy the high-life way too much. Don Jr. is very much like him, going through divorce now with 5 children after horndogging it around with the Fox news tootsie.

    None of them is going to suffer, either. Too much $$ protecting them. The only consequence that'll matter is the loss of $$, that removes their protection and influence.


  • #7155
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The recent revelations about the proposed new FBI building gives you an insight into how all of this will play out.

    Trump, as an ex POTUS, will have access to many government and federal records which will give him unique inside knowledge of how to profit from any upcoming changes. The fact that he already did it whilst he was POTUS, shows that he is more that happy to use this information for his personal advantage. And the spotlight will have shifted away from him at that stage so he will be able to to it even more blatantly.

    As was always a view of his entire run for POTUS, it was never about MAGA or particular policies. It was about getting the Trump brand out there even more, winning was not the aim, it was a nice bonus. Hence why is didn't have any transitional planning done and why Melania was not ready to move to DC.

    The risk is that they crossed too many lines on the way and may end up getting burnt, but so far his supporters seem more than happy to let him away with any level of corruption and thus is it unlikely he will ever face the consequences.


  • #7156
    serfboard
    Registered Users Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    The people who are going to carry the can for his antics are his children and Kushner - they are all up to their eyeballs in rampant corruption.
    Igotadose wrote: »
    None of them is going to suffer, either. Too much $$ protecting them. The only consequence that'll matter is the loss of $$, that removes their protection and influence.
    Leroy42 wrote: »
    The risk is that they crossed too many lines on the way and may end up getting burnt, but so far his supporters seem more than happy to let him away with any level of corruption and thus is it unlikely he will ever face the consequences.
    My prediction is that after the midterms Mueller will come out with some more revelations which will set off a firestorm - with the bagman, Manafort and Cohen he's right up to Kushner and the children now, and maybe even The Don himself.

    If there is no Blue Wave, and major stuff comes out with nothing being done about it, there is going to be a crisis in American politics.


  • #7157
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,018 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    There is already, just no-one seems to want to do anything about it.


  • #7158
    milennial
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭milennial


    trump's biggest test is coming up
    george soros and the democrats, led by patriot feinstein and schumer are organizing the caravan of refugees from honduras


  • #7159
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    milennial wrote: »
    trump's biggest test is coming up
    george soros and the democrats, led by patriot feinstein and schumer are organizing the caravan of refugees from honduras

    But there's no proof for what you're claiming..
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/20/world/americas/migrant-caravan-video-trump.html


  • #7160
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    milennial wrote: »
    trump's biggest test is coming up
    george soros and the democrats, led by patriot feinstein and schumer are organizing the caravan of refugees from honduras

    For a fella that only joined Boards yesterday, you don't hang around with the Tinfoil hat stuff, do you.. :cool:


  • #7161
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    milennial wrote: »
    trump's biggest test is coming up
    george soros and the democrats, led by patriot feinstein and schumer are organizing the caravan of refugees from honduras

    So the DNC can't even get their own vote out yet you believe that they have organised 7000 foreigners to walk hundreds of miles with children to probably be refused entry at the border and/or have their children taken from them. All in a move which will only serve to fire up Trumps core supporters?


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  • #7162
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    milennial wrote: »
    trump's biggest test is coming up
    george soros and the democrats, led by patriot feinstein and schumer are organizing the caravan of refugees from honduras


    Even if that were true, how could you possibly class that as his biggest test?


  • #7163
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    serfboard wrote: »
    My prediction is that after the midterms Mueller will come out with some more revelations which will set off a firestorm - with the bagman, Manafort and Cohen he's right up to Kushner and the children now, and maybe even The Don himself.

    If there is no Blue Wave, and major stuff comes out with nothing being done about it, there is going to be a crisis in American politics.

    It looks like the Trumper kids and Kushner are facing charges in state court - if they are convicted then Daddy can't pardon them.


  • #7164
    Jolly Red Giant
    Registered Users Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    Opinion poll released today from Vermont - Bernie Sanders is 41 points ahead of the Republican.


  • #7165
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    It looks like the Trumper kids and Kushner are facing charges in state court - if they are convicted then Daddy can't pardon them.

    What's that in connection with?


  • #7166
    circadian
    Registered Users Posts: 6,896 ✭✭✭circadian


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    Opinion poll released today from Vermont - Bernie Sanders is 41 points ahead of the Republican.

    That's not really a surprise though? Bernie has consistently won that race comfortably.


  • #7167
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    So the latest moral panic over these migrant caravans coming across the Southern border has centred around Fox News insinuating there might be ISIS fighters lurking within the groups. This stems from comments from the Guatemalan president, Jimmy Morales, who said they had made 100 arrests & deportations relating to "...terrorist issues, with ISIS". With a bold cognitive leap that'd vault the Grand Canyon itself, commentators on Fox are now suggesting (in that practised "we're only asking questions" frame of discussion) terrorists might be lurking within the groups.

    It's not even dog whistling at this stage, just full blown scaremongering out in the open.


  • #7168
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    Opinion poll released today from Vermont - Bernie Sanders is 41 points ahead of the Republican.

    That's actually a dis-improvement over Sander's 2012 election result, when he took 71% of the vote, compared to Mc Govern (R) who got 25%. So that election had Bernie at a lead of 46 points...


  • #7169
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 18,957 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Jesus F Christ.


    The pure and unadulterated bullshít that he spouts....

    https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1054503698334969863?s=19


  • #7170
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,536 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Jolly Red Giant wrote: »
    It looks like the Trumper kids and Kushner are facing charges in state court - if they are convicted then Daddy can't pardon them.

    Maybe that's why he's reportedly planning to change the law so that the president can pardon non-federal criminal actions and those charged under non-federal laws with same.


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  • #7171
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,066 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    milennial wrote: »
    trump's biggest test is coming up
    george soros and the democrats, led by patriot feinstein and schumer are organizing the caravan of refugees from honduras

    No more conspiracy theories please.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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