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Autumn 2019 - General Discussion
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According to meteorologists since at least 1659 when the Royal Scientific Society was setup. I don't think any boardsie is that old
Ha you never know! Seriously though it's nearly too cold to be out + about.
We are out in park in all weathers but today really getting into the old bones!
Brrrrr. Back to house for some warm drinks + cosy heating0 -
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The reason for the disconnect between meteorological and cultural seasons (being one month out of sync essentially) in Ireland is because of seasonal lag - meteorological winter is centered around when we’re climatologically likely to be coldest vs warmest, whereas in Ireland (and other Celtic countries) cultural winter is centered around sunlight and the solstices and equinoxes, with each constituting the midway point of their corresponding seasons. Because the climate takes roughly one month to catch up with changes in the Earth’s rotation, these two paradigms are one month out of sync with eachother.
Most meteorologists will refer to the seasons based on their meteorological terms, while most Irish people will have learned in school (with poems and mnemonics to help remember) that the seasons begin and end one month earlier than their meteorologically interested bretheren. Neither view is right or wrong, so as far as I’m concerned the annual arguments about whether November counts as Winter and February counts as Spring are hilariously predictable and woefully pointless. What matters here is what kind of weather we’re going to get, dammit
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hatrickpatrick wrote: »The reason for the disconnect between meteorological and cultural seasons (being one month out of sync essentially) in Ireland is because of seasonal lag - meteorological winter is centered around when we’re climatologically likely to be coldest vs warmest, whereas in Ireland (and other Celtic countries) cultural winter is centered around sunlight and the solstices and equinoxes, with each constituting the midway point of their corresponding seasons. Because the climate takes roughly one month to catch up with changes in the Earth’s rotation, these two paradigms are one month out of sync with eachother.
Most meteorologists will refer to the seasons based on their meteorological terms, while most Irish people will have learned in school (with poems and mnemonics to help remember) that the seasons begin and end one month earlier than their meteorologically interested bretheren. Neither view is right or wrong, so as far as I’m concerned the annual arguments about whether November counts as Winter and February counts as Spring are hilariously predictable and woefully pointless. What matters here is what kind of weather we’re going to get, dammit
“And other Celtic countries“?
As far as I’m aware Ireland is the only country in the world where November is commonly referred to as winter and February as spring etc.
In other countries there’s no difference between the people and the meteorologists. Everyone agrees that November is autumn and February still winter etc.0 -
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