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05-11-2009, 15:31   #391
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it would be interesting to see if they increased the spped limit on the ORR to 80 or 100 KM/h what impact it would have on traffic flows from the Ardkeen area to the Western Link, and onwards over the new bridge.

At the moment due to the ridiculously slow speed limit it take longer to get to the new bridge from the Ardkeen area than it does to go via Rice Bridge.
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it would be interesting to see if they increased the spped limit on the ORR to 80 or 100 KM/h what impact it would have on traffic flows from the Ardkeen area to the Western Link, and onwards over the new bridge.

At the moment due to the ridiculously slow speed limit it take longer to get to the new bridge from the Ardkeen area than it does to go via Rice Bridge.
Especially when it is considered that the Kilkenny Ring Road, a single carriageway route, has a 100 km/h speed limit compared to the 60 km/h of the Waterford ORR dual carriageway.

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At the moment due to the ridiculously slow speed limit it take longer to get to the new bridge from the Ardkeen area than it does to go via Rice Bridge.
Who decides this speed limit and what is the process for having it reviewed?
It really is restrictive - even if it was raised to 80 it would be something.
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I'm not an expert on bridges, but I drove down to Waterford to have a good sconce at the new bridge. (And I went across it slowly ). Seems to me that the bridge is very bumpy and that large sections of tar have buckled somewhat. I know bridges move a bit but this was quite noticable. Anyone else see this and is it bad?
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Yes, especially noticeable in a car with sports suspension.

The surface isn't very even at all.

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Its so those who use the ORR don't get a smooth shock.
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09-11-2009, 17:22   #397
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Saw this bridge in France during the summer ;
http://www.abelard.org/france/viaduct-de-millau.php
http://www.leviaducdemillau.com/engl.../gallerie.html

France 2460m long, 280m over river, 7 pylons,highest 343m, Cost €400-m, complete 2004
Ireland 465m long, 14m over the river, 1 pylon,highest 118m,Cost €500-m, complete 2009

Millau carried 4,670,449 vehicles in 2008, costs €5.60 for a car in low season and is the highest road bridge in the world.

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PS our cost is higher because of the 23km of bypass road? otherwise the french would have all the biggest highest etc. records
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Saw this bridge in France during the summer ;
http://www.abelard.org/france/viaduct-de-millau.php
http://www.leviaducdemillau.com/engl.../gallerie.html

France 2460m long, 280m over river, 7 pylons,highest 343m, Cost €400-m, complete 2004
Ireland 465m long, 14m over the river, 1 pylon,highest 118m,Cost €500-m, complete 2009

Millau carried 4,670,449 vehicles in 2008, costs €5.60 for a car in low season and is the highest road bridge in the world.

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PS our cost is higher because of the 23km of bypass road? otherwise the french would have all the biggest highest etc. records

You cant just choose a random bridge and compare it to the Waterford one. I was on this one last year in France and it cost me €18 return....in a car!
http://www.trivago.co.uk/rivedoux-pl...-bridge-182806
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Saw this bridge in France during the summer ;
http://www.abelard.org/france/viaduct-de-millau.php
http://www.leviaducdemillau.com/engl.../gallerie.html

France 2460m long, 280m over river, 7 pylons,highest 343m, Cost €400-m, complete 2004
Ireland 465m long, 14m over the river, 1 pylon,highest 118m,Cost €500-m, complete 2009

Millau carried 4,670,449 vehicles in 2008, costs €5.60 for a car in low season and is the highest road bridge in the world.

pjq

PS our cost is higher because of the 23km of bypass road? otherwise the french would have all the biggest highest etc. records
exaclty,

I read somewhere that the suir bridge cost somewhere in the region of €40m
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I was on the bypass the weekend and it's a motorway in disguise.
The large elipseabout just before the bridge is a little confusing but cool.
The roundabout at the end of the soon to be open M9 has an extra space ready for the mooncoin bypass, looks like there are no plans to change the layout for a long time.
The bridge is impressive at night. I've seen the boyne bridge at night and both are equally impressive.

The speed limit on the outer ring road should be increased.. it's a Joke at 60k why bother having two lanes when you can't use the fast lane ; )
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...And I see new 60km/h speed limit signs on the new link roads from the Grannagh interchange to Ferrybank.

Jeez. Another dual carriageway in Waterford with a stupid speed limit.

Fish.

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Discuss.

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This Waterford city bypass is a sick and dangerous joke. Driving from Fenor to the city and joining the Cork Road (N25) at the Butlerstown cross this morning, the volume of traffic from the Kilmeaden direction is as bad now as it was a year ago. The only way to get onto the road is take a chance - point the car and stomp on the accellerator and pray to Jesus that someone will brake to let you join. The motorists approaching Waterford from the Cork side are simply NOT USING THE BYPASS.

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This Waterford city bypass is a sick and dangerous joke. Driving from Fenor to the city and joining the Cork Road (N25) at the Butlerstown cross this morning, the volume of traffic from the Kilmeaden direction is as bad now as it was a year ago. The only way to get onto the road is take a chance - point the car and stomp on the accellerator and pray to Jesus that someone will brake to let you join. The motorists approaching Waterford from the Cork side are simply NOT USING THE BYPASS.
So its not the bypass thats dangerous, its the whatever tha old road is now called (whats its designation?) still being as bad as ever. Can't wait for the first traffic survey, if the anecdotal evidence is to be belived its empty.
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Workmates here in the Waterford industrial estate tell me that the main reason they don't use the city bypass is because of the roundabout at the Cork Road/Outer Ring Road junction. If they join the bypass before Kilmeaden and try to get on to the Cork Road be coming up by B&Q, they have to give right-of-way to the traffic that's coming directly from Kilmeaden. Therefore, they gain advantage at rush hour by not using the bypass.
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Workmates here in the Waterford industrial estate tell me that the main reason they don't use the city bypass is because of the roundabout at the Cork Road/Outer Ring Road junction. If they join the bypass before Kilmeaden and try to get on to the Cork Road be coming up by B&Q, they have to give right-of-way to the traffic that's coming directly from Kilmeaden. Therefore, they gain advantage at rush hour by not using the bypass.
I can see traffic calming measure being put in place before too long (Traffic lights anyone)
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