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Wage Subsidy Scheme Issues

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  • #632
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    i thought it was only Brits who used the word furlough, never heard anyone else here say that.

    Was called work subsidy but I think the media started using furlough


  • #633
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    What part of furloughed don't you understand? Your workplace is closed or working at reduced capacity ,you receive percentage of wages until it reopens, unlike the Covid payment you can't work elsewhere.
    Those Bulgarians were coming before the quarantine,

    Can you link to where your getting your information about not being able to work elsewhere? What I've googled about furloughing states the opposite.


  • #634
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Lies, they don't want people who reside here , truth is their whole business isn't solvent by Irish standards, don't be surprised if the whole thing goes belly up in a few months.

    More sh1te from fakebook or some other place where stupids hang out.

    Fruit picking is a semi skilled job. A good fruit picker will earn over €3,000 a month. Due to seasonal nature the jobs are nomadic around Europe.

    Irish people tend not to like labor intensive jobs even if they are reasonably well paid.

    Even a crop walker gets €2,000 a month - they simply walk up and down checking the crop.

    But people like you prefer to believe the bullsh1t that the likes of sinn fein and other leftist whine bags spout.


  • #635
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Darc19 wrote: »
    More sh1te from fakebook or some other place where stupids hang out.

    Fruit picking is a semi skilled job. A good fruit picker will earn over €3,000 a month. Due to seasonal nature the jobs are nomadic around Europe.

    Irish people tend not to like labor intensive jobs even if they are reasonably well paid.

    Even a crop walker gets €2,000 a month - they simply walk up and down checking the crop.

    But people like you prefer to believe the bullsh1t that the likes of sinn fein and other leftist whine bags spout.
    Da bulgarians tuk their job


  • #636
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Alrigghtythen wrote: »
    And so did the 350 a weekers Difference is I earned mine.

    I get the resentment, but something had to be done. Nobody asked for this.


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  • #637
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    kowloon wrote: »
    I get the resentment, but something had to be done. Nobody asked for this.

    Yes but it needs to be paid back via tax.


  • #638
    BohsCeltic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭BohsCeltic


    Darc19 wrote: »
    More sh1te from fakebook or some other place where stupids hang out.

    Fruit picking is a semi skilled job. A good fruit picker will earn over €3,000 a month. Due to seasonal nature the jobs are nomadic around Europe.

    Irish people tend not to like labor intensive jobs even if they are reasonably well paid.

    Even a crop walker gets €2,000 a month - they simply walk up and down checking the crop.

    But people like you prefer to believe the bullsh1t that the likes of sinn fein and other leftist whine bags spout.

    Can you back up these figures ? I doubt much that they are earning that.


  • #639
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Darc19 wrote: »
    More sh1te from fakebook or some other place where stupids hang out.

    Fruit picking is a semi skilled job. A good fruit picker will earn over €3,000 a month. Due to seasonal nature the jobs are nomadic around Europe.

    Irish people tend not to like labor intensive jobs even if they are reasonably well paid.

    Even a crop walker gets €2,000 a month - they simply walk up and down checking the crop.

    But people like you prefer to believe the bullsh1t that the likes of sinn fein and other leftist whine bags spout.

    You couldn't charter a plane at the time, it was booked in advance, this shyte has been hammered out over 4 k posts on the original thread and you are now trying to get this one shut down as old Joe does like his lawsuits


  • #640
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    You couldn't charter a plane at the time, it was booked in advance, this shyte has been hammered out over 4 k posts on the original thread and you are now trying to get this one shut down as old Joe does like his lawsuits

    Is there only one company in the country? 1 food company


  • #641
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Alrigghtythen wrote: »
    Da bulgarians tuk their job

    By the way I've been working 4 of the last 6 weeks, that's probably more than you worked.


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  • #642
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    By the way I've been working 4 of the last 6 weeks, that's probably more than you worked.

    Did you find the link that's says you cant have a second job if you're furloughing? I'd be interested in reading it.


  • #643
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    BohsCeltic wrote: »
    Can you back up these figures ? I doubt much that they are earning that.

    Check out the adverts on the international job sites.

    Some people thought it was €2,500-€3,000 for the 3 months and those stupids thought they were great pointing it out.

    They went very quiet when it was shown clearly that the payments was per month.

    Check the main thread on it.


  • #644
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Alrigghtythen wrote: »
    Is there only one company in the country? 1 food company

    You need to go outside, scream at the pigeons, cats or whatever creatures are wandering about, and then take a long hard look at yourself , mirror ,phone ,back of biscuit tin . I guess you won't like what you see.


  • #645
    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    You couldn't charter a plane at the time, it was booked in advance, this shyte has been hammered out over 4 k posts on the original thread and you are now trying to get this one shut down as old Joe does like his lawsuits

    More rubbish.

    You can charter a plane tomorrow if you want.

    The company in question followed a procedure that was proven to be the correct and agreed procedure but the sinn fein types absolutely hated the truth

    Eg, the nationalist fools who hate people are getting more than their €200 unemployment payments and who wouldn't work in a blue moon

    There are still schedule flights operating from various parts of Europe. Very few, but there are some.

    Anyway this is way off topic.


  • #646
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    You need to go outside, scream at the pigeons, cats or whatever creatures are wandering about, and then take a long hard look at yourself , mirror ,phone ,back of biscuit tin . I guess you won't like what you see.

    Still no link to back up the claim you made?


  • #647
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Alrigghtythen wrote: »
    Did you find the link that's says you cant have a second job if you're furloughing? I'd be interested in reading it.

    If your workplace trade has lost more than 25% of trade you qualify for furlough, ours is down 60% so rather than let people go one half of the workforce work two weeks, then the other half does the next two, it's not that complicated, we get employer top-up for the weeks worked ,70%:for the other two. Did you even look at the criteria before ranting?


  • #648
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    If your workplace trade has lost more than 25% of trade you qualify for furlough, ours is down 60% so rather than let people go one half of the workforce work two weeks, then the other half does the next two, it's not that complicated, we get employer top-up for the weeks worked ,70%:for the other two. Did you even look at the criteria before ranting?


    No you said you cant work anywhere else if your furloughed from one company. Did you just make that up?

    RandomViewer wrote: »
    What part of furloughed don't you understand? Your workplace is closed or working at reduced capacity ,you receive percentage of wages until it reopens, unlike the Covid payment you can't work elsewhere.
    Those Bulgarians were coming before the quarantine,


  • #649
    Seve OB
    Registered Users Posts: 15,815 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    jaysus folks, 4 pages of crap there.
    anyone have any questions about the wage subsidy scheme?


  • #650
    Tow
    Registered Users Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭Tow


    Seve OB wrote: »
    jaysus folks, 4 pages of crap there.
    anyone have any questions about the wage subsidy scheme?

    Maybe split into a second thread, for the discussion which seems to be mixed up with the British furlough scheme.

    Back on topic. It would appear (unsurprisingly) from reports on RTE Radio 1 this morning, the scheme is going to be extended beyond the initial 12 week limit, which was to end in the middle of June.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • #651
    witchgirl26
    Registered Users Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    There seems to be some confusion between the UK furlough scheme here & the two payments available in Ireland.

    UK furlough scheme is that your employer gets up to 80% of your wage but you are not allowed to do any work whatsoever for that business. You can do training but that's it. You can work at another job so long as your contract with your employer that has furloughed you allows it.

    Irish schemes are the wage subsidy which the employer can claim whether you're working or not. The idea was to keep you on the books rather than letting people go.

    Pandemic unemployment payment is for those who have been let go from their company. They are not furloughed. They don't have a job. Their companies may choose to rehire when they reopen but they are unemployed at present.


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  • #652
    blackwhite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Darc19 wrote: »
    That is utter bs spouted by some tabloid morons that did not have a clue.

    Yes it is regarded as income the same way as unemployment benefit is regarded as income. But as the weekly tax free allowance is over €350, no tax liability accrues.

    But likewise, you cannot have the further benefits of your tax free allowance during the covid period for normal earnings at future dates.

    Eg, if you get covid payment for 10 weeks, then those 10 weeks of your tfa are effectively cancelled

    For someone spouting about "morons that did not have a clue" you seem to be mixing up the UK tax system with the Irish one.

    We don't have tax-free allowances in Ireland - we have tax credits. They are an annual credit.


  • #653
    blackwhite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Darc19 wrote: »
    The tax system works in real time now. It will be automatically adjusted so that €350 of tax free earnings allowance will not be able to be used for earnings after you have returned to work.

    So many people don't understand the tax system. Tabloid journalists and fakebook fools started this rubbish and simply had not a clue.

    Stop posting complete and utter boll*x about the tax system - which you very clearly don't understand yourself.


    We don't have tax-free allowances in Ireland. We have tax credits.

    The individual tax credit is €1650 for the year - this is not adjusted.

    There is a PAYE tax credit of €1650 for anyone who was in any PAYE employment at any point during the year, and once their overall earings are over €8,250 then it cannot be pro-rated


  • #654
    SAMTALK
    Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    At the end of the wage subsidy is it possible that we get a tax bill from Revenue with due amount on it and can be paid in one go or will it have to be done by tax credit system


  • #655
    blackwhite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    SAMTALK wrote: »
    At the end of the wage subsidy is it possible that we get a tax bill from Revenue with due amount on it and can be paid in one go or will it have to be done by tax credit system


    The guidance to date hasn't been particularly clear on the options.
    When an end of the year review takes place, it may be the case that an employee’s unused tax credits will cover any further liability that may arise. Where this is not the case, and should an Income Tax liability arise, it is normal Revenue practice to collect any tax owing in manageable amounts by reducing an individual’s tax credits for a future year(s) in order to minimise any hardship. Additionally, if an individual has any additional tax credits to claim, for example health expenses, this will also reduce any tax that may be owing.

    Normal practice would allow for the option to make a payment against income tax at the time of the end of year review - but it hasn't been explicitly addressed yet.


  • #656
    The_Chap
    Registered Users Posts: 493 ✭✭The_Chap


    SAMTALK wrote: »
    At the end of the wage subsidy is it possible that we get a tax bill from Revenue with due amount on it and can be paid in one go or will it have to be done by tax credit system

    Indeed, rest assured the Revenue will know exactly what was paid to who and will reconcile accordingly, how they will collect what is due has yet to be determined.

    Whether or not the wage subsidy should be taxed or not is purely open to individual's opinion, however Revenue's decision will be final, I can't see why they would treat it any differently to all the other benefit payments


  • #657
    snowgal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,776 ✭✭✭snowgal


    SAMTALK wrote: »
    At the end of the wage subsidy is it possible that we get a tax bill from Revenue with due amount on it and can be paid in one go or will it have to be done by tax credit system

    peoples tax will be calculated at the end of the year. For some they may have a decent amount owing for others (particularly in minimum wage bracket) they will have a small enough amount owing. Revenue has said this will be deducted form your payslip in the coming years. So any tax owed will be deducted in small amounts over a long period. They wont be knocking on your door on the 31/12 looking for the money back straight away...


  • #658
    SAMTALK
    Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    snowgal wrote: »
    peoples tax will be calculated at the end of the year. For some they may have a decent amount owing for others (particularly in minimum wage bracket) they will have a small enough amount owing. Revenue has said this will be deducted form your payslip in the coming years. So any tax owed will be deducted in small amounts over a long period. They wont be knocking on your door on the 31/12 looking for the money back straight away...

    I'm working all along and company is availing of wage subsidy scheme but wages have changed in the last 2 week. We are supposed to be on the same wage so needless to say we checked it out.

    It looks like they have held back some of our money which we were putting aside for paying the tax bill so am wondering what can be done.

    We have explained that this money is ours to put away / spend but seem to be getting no where


  • #659
    wazzer1
    Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭wazzer1


    I'm paid monthly and contacted revenue about tax back received last month. They said I was due it and wont needed be paid back, but they were putting me on week 1 from now on which means I wont receive any further tax back I'm not due. Might be worth contacting revenue and see what they say


  • #660
    SAMTALK
    Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭SAMTALK


    wazzer1 wrote: »
    I'm paid monthly and contacted revenue about tax back received last month. They said I was due it and wont needed be paid back, but they were putting me on week 1 from now on which means I wont receive any further tax back I'm not due. Might be worth contacting revenue and see what they say

    Thought Revenue were not answering phones ?

    Thanks will give them a try


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  • #661
    wazzer1
    Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭wazzer1


    SAMTALK wrote: »
    Thought Revenue were not answering phones ?

    Thanks will give them a try

    No theyll only contact through revenue online service


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