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Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

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  • #2282
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    If he very weak then creep area be still too cold for my likeing, its just like a new born baby, needs tlc, aw I personally would throw a small palm full in a litre or 2 of milk, id rather kill or cure a weak calf with more food than less, within reason

    He's probably starving at this stage, maybe has a low temperature as well which would kill his appetite,
    Sounds like he didn't get enough beastings either, so has lost all his body fat to keep him warm.
    If it was mine I'd take his temperature and heat him if it's below normal and stomach tube a litre of milk into him every four or five hours, his stomach is probably shrunk at this stage and he won't be able for a big feed.If he didn't get enough beastings it'll be all for nothing.
    It takes a lot of heat to get a calves temperature up


  • #2283
    greysides
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Give an antibiotic too.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



  • #2284
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    tanko wrote: »
    He has managed to survive for six days, i definitely wouldn't give up on him anyway. If you put sugar on your fingers will he suck them, you could get him onto a bottle then and get milk from a dairy farmer for him.
    If the cow has no milk i think i'd be forgetting about her feeding him.
    I'd bring him to a vet, they'll tube the right stuff into him to get him going if he's going to make it, bring a few litres of milk with you.
    Keeping him warm under a lamp is a good idea.

    With the form he is in i wouldnt expect him to suck my fingers but will try in a while.....deffo gona forget about the cow feeding him.....
    How often would i want to be feeding him?
    Fed him 1ltr around 22:00. Without glucose in the milk


  • #2285
    naughto
    Registered Users Posts: 7,316 ✭✭✭naughto


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Oh was sent off with second 2 kids as soon as they were born.first lad needed special care . I was left on my own in recovery.

    My 1st did as well spent 10 days in it my oh is a midwife so knew far to much for her own good.


  • #2286
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    wrangler wrote: »
    He's probably starving at this stage, maybe has a low temperature as well which would kill his appetite,
    Sounds like he didn't get enough beastings either, so has lost all his body fat to keep him warm.
    If it was mine I'd take his temperature and heat him if it's below normal and stomach tube a litre of milk into him every four or five hours, his stomach is probably shrunk at this stage and he won't be able for a big feed.If he didn't get enough beastings it'll be all for nothing.
    It takes a lot of heat to get a calves temperature up

    This is very much like how he is..... hes definitely lost body fat. Nose is realy cold too....prob got v little beastings except for the ltr of powdered stuff i gave him on saturday...
    He was sucking her over the first two or three days...but a meer mugfull id say is all hes got from her. Her teats wer dirty this eve which leads me to believe that he didnt suck today....


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  • #2287
    Jb1989
    Registered Users Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Rushy Fields wrote: »
    With the form he is in i wouldnt expect him to suck my fingers but will try in a while.....deffo gona forget about the cow feeding him.....
    How often would i want to be feeding him?
    Fed him 1ltr around 22:00. Without glucose in the milk

    Maybe look into a 'suck Injection' to stimulate the sucking reflex, but as said. Go to vet first and get temperature and maybe a drip.
    I've headed off to a vet at this time of night several times , with a weak new born, in the boot, if I didnt think it survive to morning.


  • #2288
    Jb1989
    Registered Users Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Rushy Fields wrote: »
    This is very much like how he is..... hes definitely lost body fat. Nose is realy cold too....prob got v little beastings except for the ltr of powdered stuff i gave him on saturday...
    He was sucking her over the first two or three days...but a meer mugfull id say is all hes got from her. Her teats wer dirty this eve which leads me to believe that he didnt suck today....

    Into a red lamp at once so, and if your vet can accommodate you, then head in now, time to act now


  • #2289
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Rushy Fields wrote: »
    This is very much like how he is..... hes definitely lost body fat. Nose is realy cold too....prob got v little beastings except for the ltr of powdered stuff i gave him on saturday...
    He was sucking her over the first two or three days...but a meer mugfull id say is all hes got from her. Her teats wer dirty this eve which leads me to believe that he didnt suck today....
    I would put him under a infrared lamp and if you don’t have one put him in a deep bed of straw and cover him with a rug or blanket. Calf rugs are good and it’s handy to have one. Feed him a little often - 1 litre at the correct temperature - c.35 degrees every 3 hours.


  • #2290
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,201 ✭✭✭tanko


    Doesn't sound good if he's very cold, get him under a red lamp, feed him a litre of milk every few hours and get him to a vet in the morning, bring a few litres of milk with you.


  • #2291
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    tanko wrote: »
    Doesn't sound good if he's very cold, get him under a red lamp, feed him a litre of milk every few hours and get him to a vet in the morning, bring a few litres of milk with you.

    Attached a pic of him


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  • #2292
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    Found a red lamp but i said id just bring him inside. He seems to have a bit of a scour... watery nd yellow. Guessing thats just from the milk... should i give him bimadine ????
    Not sure of the mixing ratio to water..... anyone know


  • #2293
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Rushy Fields wrote: »
    Found a red lamp but i said id just bring him inside. He seems to have a bit of a scour... watery nd yellow. Guessing thats just from the milk... should i give him bimadine ????
    Not sure of the mixing ratio to water..... anyone know
    The mix for glucose electrolyte is 3 or 4 tablespoons of glucose, 1 tablespoon of bread soda and half a tablespoon of salt in 2 litres of water. If you’re using milk replacer you need to look at the mixing rate on the bag but most are around 135g per litre. Make sure it’s blood warm when feeding. If you’re using a glass bottle to feed put the bottle in hot water first to warm it so it doesn’t cool the mix.


  • #2294
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    That’s a good warm place for him beside the range cooker. I would give him biamedin. Bring him to your Vet in the morning if you can.


  • #2295
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    Base price wrote: »
    That’s a good warm place for him beside the range cooker. I would give him biamedin. Bring him to your Vet in the morning if you can.

    Gave him half sachet of Bimadine in 750ml of water... stuff just running out of him.....liquid brownish stuff... hes deffinately warmer.
    Thanks to everyone that contributed. I Appreciate it. Fingers crossed till i get to vet.....


  • #2296
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,052 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Are you able to stomach tube? Vet could show you how if you can't. Honey is good for getting a calf to suck. Good luck with it. Has his nose warmed up since he came inside?


  • #2297
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Are you able to stomach tube? Vet could show you how if you can't. Honey is good for getting a calf to suck. Good luck with it. Has his nose warmed up since he came inside?

    Yea. His nose is warm nd dry. I stomach tubed before. But i never got training do i wouldnt be the most confident doing it. Will try get him in to the vet around 9am and take it from there....
    Should i bring him out to cow nd suck whatever she has before i go to the vet... Dairy mans milk all gone. So will have to get some more......


  • #2298
    Bullocks
    Registered Users Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Rushy Fields wrote: »
    Yea. His nose is warm nd dry. I stomach tubed before. But i never got training do i wouldnt be the most confident doing it. Will try get him in to the vet around 9am and take it from there....
    Should i bring him out to cow nd suck whatever she has before i go to the vet... Dairy mans milk all gone. So will have to get some more......

    Can you milk the cow and bottle him rather than tiring him out trying to suck, especially if she has shag all? Would the dairy man have another drop?
    Looks a good strong calf and won't be long turning the corner I hope.
    Bag of milk replacer is the way to go and forget about the cow.


  • #2299
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,052 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Once his nose is warm it's good. A cold nose is a bad sign.


  • #2300
    Parishlad
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    Rushy Fields wrote: »
    Yea. His nose is warm nd dry. I stomach tubed before. But i never got training do i wouldnt be the most confident doing it. Will try get him in to the vet around 9am and take it from there....
    Should i bring him out to cow nd suck whatever she has before i go to the vet... Dairy mans milk all gone. So will have to get some more......

    Fair play to you Rushy, you are doing the very best you can for that calf and giving him every chance possible. It would make my day to hear that the calf has survived and started to get a bit stronger! Best of luck!


  • #2301
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Vet is best place for him. Great advice from posters, I'll add my tuppence worth. Space out the times between giving electrolytes and milk, 2 hrs, as electrolytes curdle the milk and upset digestion.


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  • #2302
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    Lime Tree Farm wrote: »
    Vet is best place for him. Great advice from posters, I'll add my tuppence worth. Space out the times between giving electrolytes and milk, 2 hrs, as electrolytes curdle the milk and upset digestion.

    Got him in to the vet . Hes on a drip and tubed stuff into him nd and antibiotic..... hes staying overnight under a lamp and we will see what tomorrow brings.... thanks everyone. I was doing stuff yesterday evening and last night but its nice to get advice and reassurance.
    Another man pulled in to the vets yard with the same problem....
    If he pulls through can i put him on milk replacer or will i go to the dairy man for a week. He has been very helpful.


  • #2303
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Rushy Fields wrote: »
    Got him in to the vet . Hes on a drip and tubed stuff into him nd and antibiotic..... hes staying overnight under a lamp and we will see what tomorrow brings.... thanks everyone. I was doing stuff yesterday evening and last night but its nice to get advice and reassurance.
    Another man pulled in to the vets yard with the same problem....
    If he pulls through can i put him on milk replacer or will i go to the dairy man for a week. He has been very helpful.

    You would be better off putting him on milk replacer if he's not going back on the cow. The cow will probably be dry by the time to put him back on her. And use a little and often when feeding him for the first few days and then add a little more and cut back the number of feeds. And have water available for him when he gets a bit stronger.


  • #2304
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,052 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    If you are feeding him yourself you know he is drinking and how much he got.


  • #2305
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    You would be better off putting him on milk replacer if he's not going back on the cow. The cow will probably be dry by the time to put him back on her. And use a little and often when feeding him for the first few days and then add a little more and cut back the number of feeds. And have water available for him when he gets a bit stronger.

    Will be wrecked this evening after the long night.... thank god the toy show is not on tonight!!!
    Think my 3yr old boy will have a busy few months bucket rearing him if he pulls through!!! Thats if i can get him away from the tractor!!!


  • #2306
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Anyone for any all electric, armour glass windows, Tesla cybertruck ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxR5rBq_Vg


  • #2307
    Say my name
    Registered Users Posts: 11,024 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Lime Tree Farm wrote: »
    Anyone for any all electric, armour glass windows, Tesla cybertruck ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udxR5rBq_Vg

    He should have just bought up the windows from VW passats.


  • #2308
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,052 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Rushy Fields wrote: »
    Will be wrecked this evening after the long night.... thank god the toy show is not on tonight!!!
    Think my 3yr old boy will have a busy few months bucket rearing him if he pulls through!!! Thats if i can get him away from the tractor!!!

    Any update?


  • #2309
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Any update?

    Contacted an hour ago.... holding his own... wont be coming home this eve anyway.....nd prob not tomorrow....


  • #2310
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Say my name wrote: »
    He should have just bought up the windows from VW passats.

    You would have to ask what the engineers were thinking of to not have checked the windows weren't going to shatter during the test:D


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  • #2311
    Say my name
    Registered Users Posts: 11,024 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    You would have to ask what the engineers were thinking of to not have checked the windows weren't going to shatter during the test:D

    My Construction studies teacher in secondary school used to tell the class of a nuclear reactor being built and how the engineers had this concrete made to withstand all manners of radiation and stress.
    One day one of the engineers noticed a patch of concrete ravelling away. They went back to the concrete plant to check was there something wrong with the mixes. Nope all to spec.
    Scratching their heads they went back to the spot to call a meeting of the team. Just as the the group turned the corner to that area a labourer was seen urinating from two stories up and it landing on that spot.
    They had planned for bomb blasts and shocks and stresses but not for labourers urinating on their concrete.


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