British version of Trump becomes PM

ChikiChiki · 23-07-2019 4:39pm

satguy wrote: »

Boris is nothing like Trump,

He not orange..
He probably only has half the IQ of Trump.

Other way around if anything. I dont get how people think Trump is smart. Born with a silver spoon and his companies bankrupted a few times.

Chris_Heilong · 23-07-2019 4:40pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Yes, that's racist.

It shows the caliber of his person.

This was a racist comment.

Indefensible.

Wow, looks like you do not know what racist means, I dont blame you as the media seem to call everything racist these days it has lost its meaning and is usually used as a weapon when someone has very little proof to back up their argument.

Stark · 23-07-2019 4:41pm

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

He said go back to the countries you came from, fix the government there and then come back to America and show us how it is done. Which is very different and race was never mentioned so not a racist tweet in this situation.
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The women he said that to were American. He just considered them non-American as they weren't white. It's the very definition of racism.

Nermal · 23-07-2019 4:41pm

Matt Barrett wrote: »

This was a racist comment.

The more you throw around an accusation, the less sting it has. Be careful.

Twenty Grand · 23-07-2019 4:48pm

Stark wrote: »

The women he said that to were American. He just considered them non-American as they weren't white. It's the very definition of racism.

The women he said it to are elected Congresswomen, which makes it all the worse.

Danzy · 23-07-2019 4:51pm

Boris has no position on the EU.

By background and class you'd expect Remain but he is a Leaver for elections, especially his own.

irishproduce · 23-07-2019 5:14pm

Ignoring the silly and stupid thread title, will be looking forward to watching the news this evening.
Normally I see the RTE 9pm news, but I am not going to watch it for this evenings news.
Anyone know which channel will give the best unbiased reporting on the news that Boris is going to be new PM?

Channel 4 or TV 3 maybe?

Thanks in advance.
And for the smart asses, it is a genuine question.

ancapailldorcha · 23-07-2019 5:18pm

phater phagan · 23-07-2019 5:28pm

I remember that video of him knocking over that little ten year old boy when he was playing rugby. It shows his character clearly. His statements over the years are also telling of his mendacity. He won't deliver a good Brexit, and thus will be a failure, and might stimulate their country into a general election. If so, there may be a Labour/Liberal government in place then.

dudara · 23-07-2019 5:32pm

Enough of the Trump racism discussion. Take it to one of the numerous other threads on the US/Trump.

This thread is about Boris Johnson

dudara

brucky · 23-07-2019 5:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

1) "Brussels'" first purpose in Brexit is to send a message, with expressions of regret and sadness of course, about what happens when you try to undermine a more powerful force. Just look at it like the public executions of old. A nation which has spent centuries doing the same should be able to relate.

2) I find it's usually Brexiteers/the most rightwing English who feign this "fear" about the fate of the Irish.

In the not too distant past Ireland voted on an EU related referendum. The EU didn’t like Ireland’s response and we were all sent back to do it again until we got it right. I think it’s a case of, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Dohnjoe · 23-07-2019 5:44pm

"Chaos is a ladder"

elefant · 23-07-2019 5:47pm

brucky wrote: »

In the not too distant past Ireland voted on an EU related referendum. The EU didn’t like Ireland’s response and we were all sent back to do it again until we got it right. I think it’s a case of, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

How many times does this bunkum need to be explained to people?

steddyeddy · 23-07-2019 5:48pm

So I wasn't far off it seems. Trump chimes in to congratulate Boris and remind people that Boris is known as "Britain's Trump".

brucky · 23-07-2019 5:52pm

elefant wrote: »

How many times does this bunkum need to be explained to people?

Go on humor me.

mcmoustache · 23-07-2019 6:08pm

elefant wrote: »

How many times does this bunkum need to be explained to people?

For ever, I'm afraid. You could correct it here but he won't believe you. You see, there's this guy down in the pub who said it and it must be true because he said lots of other things that he agreed with.

And even if you could stop it here, there'll be another pub or another letters section in a tabloid or even some nut on youtube just making this stuff up and it'll spread amongst the perpetually gullible and before you know it, that point will start showing up here again.

So yeah, you'll need to correct this forever.

Loafing Oaf · 23-07-2019 6:09pm

irishproduce wrote: »

Anyone know which channel will give the best unbiased reporting on the news that Boris is going to be new PM?

Channel 4 or TV 3 maybe?

Thanks in advance.
And for the smart asses, it is a genuine question.

Not sure about 'unbiased' but I've read that C4 news at 7 is the one that movers and shakers in media, politics, law etc. watch themselves. Maybe that's comparable to "the toothpaste that dentists themselves use"...

steddyeddy · 23-07-2019 6:12pm

Boris might be able to deliver a no-deal Brexit and that's about it I think. A different form of Brexit such as a one with a good trade deal would require the Irish backstop.

BJ famously said this about the Irish border:

there was "no border between Islington or Camden and Westminster", and yet traffic fees were collected.

So I'm not filled with confidence that he can save Britain from financial ruin.

DublinWriter · 23-07-2019 6:12pm

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

At least he will get things done for better or worse he will achieve what that joke of a PM May could not.

May negotiated a potential deal with the EU. He cannot and will not.

He's a Clown Prince. A Buffoon. He's little more than a glove-puppet for the hard-right in the Conservative party.

Loafing Oaf · 23-07-2019 6:14pm

Can't understand how Sky interviewees can focus on what they are saying with those guys bellowing in the background.

steddyeddy · 23-07-2019 6:16pm

BJ described as "Britain's Trump" by the his American counterpart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6ZUpaYl5aE

steddyeddy · 23-07-2019 6:18pm

So BJ gets off to a flying start by rewarding people who paid him money with positions!

The Financial Times has reported this evening that Johnson’s hired the Sky executive, Andrew Griffith, to be his chief business adviser in Downing Street. This after Griffith loaned Johnson his £9.5m Westminster townhouse from which to run his campaign.

Reacting to the news, Labour’s shadow minister for the Cabinet Office, Jon Trickett, has said:

Before he is even appointed prime minister, one of Boris Johnson’s first acts is to dish out a powerful job in No 10 to his super-rich pal who lent him his luxurious house in Westminster for the Tory leadership campaign.

The public would be forgiven for coming to the conclusion that Johnson’s friends can buy influence within the new administration.

It’s blindingly obvious – Boris Johnson and his government will act only in the interest of the wealthy elite.

brucky · 23-07-2019 6:24pm

mcmoustache wrote: »

For ever, I'm afraid. You could correct it here but he won't believe you. You see, there's this guy down in the pub who said it and it must be true because he said lots of other things that he agreed with.

And even if you could stop it here, there'll be another pub or another letters section in a tabloid or even some nut on youtube just making this stuff up and it'll spread amongst the perpetually gullible and before you know it, that point will start showing up here again.

So yeah, you'll need to correct this forever.

Ok. That’s convinced me.

phater phagan · 23-07-2019 6:24pm

DublinWriter wrote: »

May negotiated a potential deal with the EU. He cannot and will not.

I agree. The E.U. cannot countenance a deal other than the one that May signed. If the E.U.were to nullify the backstop, it would start veritable upheaval from other small member countries - which might even threaten the Union itself. The E.U. cannot afford that to happen.

steddyeddy · 23-07-2019 6:37pm

This gets better and better! The DUP are to demand more money/bribe than they did last time. In polls it was revealed that most Brexit voters would sacrifice Northern Ireland in the union in favour of Brexit. I can't imagine the bribes can keep flowing.

The DUP leader noted that the £1bn-plus confidence and supply agreement – signed with Theresa May, to deliver her a Commons majority two years ago – “remains”.

But she added: “That agreement included a review between each parliamentary session.

“This will take place over the coming weeks and will explore the policy priorities of both parties for the next parliamentary session.”

steddyeddy · 23-07-2019 6:38pm

So is it unlikely that the Tory party will go for another election in order to secure a majority or are they aware that BJ isn't the most popular outside of Tory members?

Loafing Oaf · 23-07-2019 6:43pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

So is it unlikely that the Tory party will go for another election in order to secure a majority or are they aware that BJ isn't the most popular outside of Tory members?

May be their only option if they can't get a deal, or indeed no deal, through parliament.

Sonny noggs · 23-07-2019 7:56pm

Glad to see that stitch up by the nosey neighbour didn’t work.

dudara · 23-07-2019 7:59pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

So is it unlikely that the Tory party will go for another election in order to secure a majority or are they aware that BJ isn't the most popular outside of Tory members?

I believe that the electorate would not be kind to either the Tories or Labour should an election be called at the moment. The Tories best bet is to hunker down for a while and hope for some good results.

steddyeddy · 23-07-2019 9:11pm

dudara wrote: »

I believe that the electorate would not be kind to either the stories or Labour should an election be called at the moment. The Tories best bet is to hunker down for a while and hope for some good results.

I'm not sure they'd win but I think the Lib Dems would gain a lot of seats.

British version of Trump becomes PM

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