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08-09-2018, 17:16   #16
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I've been checked twice on the Luas in the past year and its always been done by an inspector in civilian clothing.
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08-09-2018, 17:26   #17
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The NTA should be setting up their own revenue protection which would operate across all buses (DB + GAI), Luas and DART. Rather than have each operator responsible for their own revenue protection. That would mean it would be balanced across the board. It would also mean ticket inspectors on the Luas could hop off the Luas and hop onto a bus or a DART.
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08-09-2018, 19:41   #18
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The NTA should be setting up their own revenue protection which would operate across all buses (DB + GAI), Luas and DART. Rather than have each operator responsible for their own revenue protection. That would mean it would be balanced across the board. It would also mean ticket inspectors on the Luas could hop off the Luas and hop onto a bus or a DART.
This potentially absolves operators of the responsibility of selling tickets.
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08-09-2018, 19:51   #19
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The popular use of plain clothes inspectors on the LUAS is dubious considering that they legally must be in uniform which is "provided or authorised" in order to exercise their powers.

This is a specific requirement of the Transport (Railway Infrastructure) Act 2001 (as amended) which affords them their powers.

The question raised then is plain clothes considered a "uniform"?
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08-09-2018, 20:11   #20
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The popular use of plain clothes inspectors on the LUAS is dubious considering that they legally must be in uniform which is "provided or authorised" in order to exercise their powers.

This is a specific requirement of the Transport (Railway Infrastructure) Act 2001 (as amended) which affords them their powers.

The question raised then is plain clothes considered a "uniform"?
Could having an ID badge not count as a uniform?
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08-09-2018, 23:31   #21
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Could having an ID badge not count as a uniform?
I'm not sure how any court could interpret "uniform" as being simply an ID badge.
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08-09-2018, 23:35   #22
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Could you "check" your pockets for your tickets and then just hop off at the next stop?
I presume the inspectors have no powers to restrain you?
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08-09-2018, 23:41   #23
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Could you "check" your pockets for your tickets and then just hop off at the next stop?
I presume the inspectors have no powers to restrain you?
They can actually arrest you in circumstances where they consider it to be justified!
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I'm not sure how any court could interpret "uniform" as being simply an ID badge.
Although Luas Revenue protection do go plain clothes it is not overly common.

What is very common is raggy looking students checking tickets with an iPad style device. This is TFI or someone working on their behalf doing surveys. They have no power or interest regarding fare dodgers , they will ask what route you are taking and note no ticket and move on. This is how we get billboards like "Over 95% of Luas passengers pay their fare"
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I'm not sure how any court could interpret "uniform" as being simply an ID badge.
Stranger things have happened
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09-09-2018, 00:18   #26
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They can actually arrest you in circumstances where they consider it to be justified!
Wow!! Wasn't aware of that. So can they physically stop you from walking off?
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Same with DB, anytime I see them it's getting on at the garage in Donnybrook or one of the others, never see them way out in middle of 75 route say
You mad they don't do feck all.

There are only 4 and one of the 4 follows in a car.

I would honestly say you are more likely to get shot or aids then be checked on a db
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