Greenways [greenway map of Ireland in post 1]

marno21 · 22-09-2017 12:12am

Subzero3 wrote: »

Is there any greenways planned for the limerick area? Would love to strap on one of those child trailers to the bike and get a good hours cycle (safely).

There already is one out in the county from Rathkeale to the Kerry border.

We may be seeing one from Limerick to Ballybrophy soon

Subzero3 · 22-09-2017 2:13am

marno21 wrote: »

There already is one out in the county from Rathkeale to the Kerry border.

We may be seeing one from Limerick to Ballybrophy soon

There is a train line going from the city to foynes (unused). That would be ideal.

marno21 · 22-09-2017 7:22am

Subzero3 wrote: »

There is a train line going from the city to foynes (unused). That would be ideal.

The current county greenway starts at where the old North Kerry line used to split from the Foynes line.

There's talks of reactivating the Foynes line so that rules it out for now

Carawaystick · 25-09-2017 9:05pm

marno21 wrote: »

There's talks of reactivating the Foynes line so that rules it out for now

Yeah, after the motorway is built, there'll be huge demand for the railway...:rolleyes:

AsianDub · 16-10-2017 10:22pm

Does anyone know has Phase 3 of the Royal Canal Greenway between North Strand Road and the Phibsborough Road begun yet? It was expected to begin in September 2017 followed by Phase 2 Sheriff Street Upper and the North Strand Road in November 2017?

EndaHonesty · 16-10-2017 10:25pm

Subzero3 wrote: »

Is there any greenways planned for the limerick area? Would love to strap on one of those child trailers to the bike and get a good hours cycle (safely).

The first greenway is in Limerick.

The Great Southern Trail from Rathkeale to Abbeyfeale...

trellheim · 24-10-2017 8:15pm

Does anyone know has Phase 3 of the Royal Canal Greenway between North Strand Road and the Phibsborough Road begun yet? It was expected to begin in September 2017 followed by Phase 2 Sheriff Street Upper and the North Strand Road in November 2017?

if you have a search for the fine gael newsletter for dublin central there was an update on this recently.

spacetweek · 24-10-2017 11:11pm

Can you let us know what it said?

marno21 · 24-10-2017 11:45pm

Signage up on the N21 now at the turn offs for Rathkeale and Newcastlewest highlighting the Greenway.

nuac · 24-10-2017 11:55pm

Norrie Thomas wrote: »

The big problem in Ireland is that Greenways are being used as a cover to close down railways.

Not all. E.G. Westport-Achill line closed c 1937.

First stage of Greenway opened 2010

Carawaystick · 25-10-2017 12:02am

Subzero3 wrote: »

Is there any greenways planned for the limerick area? Would love to strap on one of those child trailers to the bike and get a good hours cycle (safely).

Can you cycle along any of the canals east of Limerick city?

marno21 · 25-10-2017 12:06am

nuac wrote: »

Not all. E.G. Westport-Achill line closed c 1937.

First stage of Greenway opened 2010

Rathkeale-Abbeyfeale closed 1978
Athlone-Mullingar closed for passenger services 1987
Dungarvan-Kilmeaden closed 1967

I spot a trend here

Carawaystick · 25-10-2017 7:42pm

marno21 wrote: »

Dungarvan-Kilmeaden closed 1967

I saw a passenger train on this line in the 80s
It held us up at the 2 level crossings

loyatemu · 25-10-2017 8:11pm

Carawaystick wrote: »

I saw a passenger train on this line in the 80s
It held us up at the 2 level crossings

there was a freight service on part of it until the 80s, maybe some passenger specials ran too?

Del.Monte · 25-10-2017 11:34pm

The last day of the line's official operation in July 1982 - exact date escapes me - saw two passenger trains operate! Not bad for a line that lost its passenger service in 1967. One was an IRRS special and the other was an outing for the Quigley Magnesite factory workers and their families from Ballinacourty to...? It was all so long ago and does it even matter any more.

Muckyboots · 26-10-2017 9:14am

Del.Monte wrote: »

The last day of the line's official operation in July 1982 - exact date escapes me - saw two passenger trains operate! Not bad for a line that lost its passenger service in 1967. One was an IRRS special and the other was an outing for the Quigley Magnesite factory workers and their families from Ballinacourty to...? It was all so long ago and does it even matter any more.

Passenger trains that stopped at Tuam in the 70's & 80's carried;
1. Box Car Willie to famously play to a crowd of 50 people at Tuam Stadium
2. A bunch of pilgrims who travelled to Knock Shrine to see a Category 3 Relic.
3. An inspection car, that made it just in time to create some grainy Youtube porn for trainspotters.
4. The real Santa Claus.

riddlinrussell · 06-11-2017 2:49pm

Does anyone know if there is an up to date version of the map presented on irishgreenways.com? I would love to get hold of the data from it, plus any current updates, maybe include any routes which could potentially be greenways to get a linked up map of the true potential for Ireland, for example a major component not shown on that site is the Proposed network in the North. Anyone got something like that sitting around?

EDIT: I have taken it upon myself to start a new map of greenway progress in Ireland, currently very incomplete, any input is much appreciated, let me know if you want access to edit it yourself or want to send me GPX/KML files for adding to it.

Greenway Map of Ireland

Corca Baiscinn · 07-11-2017 9:10pm

riddlinrussell wrote: »

EDIT: I have taken it upon myself to start a new map of greenway progress in Ireland, currently very incomplete, any input is much appreciated, let me know if you want access to edit it yourself or want to send me GPX/KML files for adding to it.

Greenway Map of Ireland

Hi RR, you need to include the Shannon Blueways, (www.bluewaysireland.org) so called because along river/canal rather than rail but some sections completed and some planned. Michel Ring announced major funding a few months ago to extend the existing link to Carrick on Shannon. Also don't see Carlingford to Omeath there which I think is complete. (Great Eastern Greenway/Louth co co) Bit unsure re your distinction between potential and proposed as in Enniskillen to Athenry for example. Is it not the case that both of these routes are both potentilal and proposed not least by the WRC posters on this very forum? You have included the Cross-Border Derry to Inishowen Wee Greenway which is being funded but there is also a proposal for a Greenway on the old Letterkenny to Burtonport line.
I like your idea of showing the potentilal for a network including Northern Ireland. Because of the competition for scarce funding each local group is going to be fighting its own corner and interested in the potentilal for its own locality from the leisure/health/safety/tourism/jobs perspective but the real potential lies in a countrywide network.

whyulittle · 07-11-2017 11:30pm

An Bord Pleanála approves greenway bridge across River Shannon in Athlone.

http://www.dublincycling.ie/cycling/great-news-approval-given-cycle-pedestrian-bridge-over-shannon-athlone

riddlinrussell · 08-11-2017 10:46am

Corca Baiscinn wrote: »

Hi RR, you need to include the Shannon Blueways, (www.bluewaysireland.org) so called because along river/canal rather than rail but some sections completed and some planned. Michel Ring announced major funding a few months ago to extend the existing link to Carrick on Shannon. Also don't see Carlingford to Omeath there which I think is complete. (Great Eastern Greenway/Louth co co) Bit unsure re your distinction between potential and proposed as in Enniskillen to Athenry for example. Is it not the case that both of these routes are both potentilal and proposed not least by the WRC posters on this very forum? You have included the Cross-Border Derry to Inishowen Wee Greenway which is being funded but there is also a proposal for a Greenway on the old Letterkenny to Burtonport line.
I like your idea of showing the potentilal for a network including Northern Ireland. Because of the competition for scarce funding each local group is going to be fighting its own corner and interested in the potentilal for its own locality from the leisure/health/safety/tourism/jobs perspective but the real potential lies in a countrywide network.

As I said, its quite embryonic at this stage, I have only added the ones I have easily been able to find GPX/KML files so far, I plan to keep looking for more, hopefully some kind soul has done the entirety of the Northern Ireland greenway network plan as a GPX. I also don't have full info on which are planned/proposed/potential. The breakdown of those would be roughly:

Planned: Has a definite route and planning permission
Proposed: A county council/Organisation with jurisdiction has written up a proposal document.
Potential: Any disused railway, canal route, or similar which does not fall into any of the other categories (AKA nobody has approved them yet)

There are a number of completed projects that are not on this map at all, oddly its been easier to find a lot of GPX of abandoned railways than active greenways. Also a gpx of, for example, the whole royal canal wouldnt be very useful as I don't know how easy it would be to split up to represent the completed and incomplete sections.

PS: If you are interested in the potential of a countrywide network have a look at the Northern Ireland Greenways Plan, its absolutely fantastic work and the product of a long campaign by NI Greenways.

jd · 08-11-2017 10:52am

There is some planning om Waterford-New Ross
https://consult.kilkenny.ie/en/consultation/waterford-newross-greenway-part-8/chapter/drawings-relation-proposed-waterford-new-ross

riddlinrussell · 08-11-2017 10:57am

Given the railway continues from there to the Slaney theres a potential for a greenway running the length of the South-East. If I can find a GPX of that line I'll add it in to the map as a Proposed route. I'll try and add links to the proposals on each line.
Do let me know if you want to help, I'm happy to give editing permissions to anyone as long as they don't wreck the thing,

Wanderer78 · 08-11-2017 11:02am

jd wrote:

There is some planning om Waterford-New Ross

Has this track been cleared back, tried to walk it a couple of years ago?

loyatemu · 08-11-2017 11:10am

riddlinrussell wrote: »

Given the railway continues from there to the Slaney theres a potential for a greenway running the length of the South-East. If I can find a GPX of that line I'll add it in to the map as a Proposed route. I'll try and add links to the proposals on each line.
Do let me know if you want to help, I'm happy to give editing permissions to anyone as long as they don't wreck the thing,

is there much left of the New Ross - Enniscorthy line though? I know there's a tunnel but the rest of the line was sold off I think.

Del.Monte · 08-11-2017 8:25pm

And a lot of the New Ross/Macmine section has been obliterated by road widening.

Del.Monte · 08-11-2017 8:25pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Has this track been cleared back, tried to walk it a couple of years ago?

It was but is disappearing again.

riddlinrussell · 09-11-2017 2:23pm

Added some more data to the map, please let me know if you have any gpx files or information on any of the routes so I can update them, and if you want to contribute I can grant editing access.

Greenway Map

marno21 · 09-11-2017 9:29pm

The alignment of the Castleisland branch has been breached by the new N23 bypass, so would likely be out for that reason. The cycle/walking path on the N21 element of the bypass seems to be reasonably well used.

The Tralee-Dingle railway is beyond recognition at this stage so we can likely rule that one out too. Cycle lanes are being added between Camp and Dingle as part of the N86 upgrade. Around 4km east of Annascaul is done and there is currently a 3km section east of Lispole and a 1km section west of Camp under construction.

marno21 · 09-11-2017 10:38pm

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=110677&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=2&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

Tender has been awarded for design of Listowel-Limerick county boundary greenway.

Carawaystick · 09-11-2017 11:46pm

loyatemu wrote: »

is there much left of the New Ross - Enniscorthy line though? I know there's a tunnel but the rest of the line was sold off I think.

The N30 runs on the railway from the Borris junction towards Rathgarogue.
https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.4196512,-6.8968612,2284m/data=!3m1!1e3

Greenways [greenway map of Ireland in post 1]

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