Deferred State Exams 2020 [SEE MOD NOTE POST #1]

Nalani Hissing Appetizer wrote: »

Very good points. And what , exactly, constitutes not acting bona fide? The more you pore over that little paragraph, the more dumb the TUI position becomes.

Well I suppose if you are taking the piss with the grades you award with no evidence to back it up, and your professional judgement inflates them beyond what might be reasonably expected under normal circumstances. Particularly when there are sets of grades for that school to compare them against.

But let's say the student's case argued that they should have got higher than H4. Court agrees and says it should have been at least H3 or tells DES to go back and review the grade. Student is awarded their costs (and they've done a Rebecca Carter and gone to the High Court so it can be heard before CAO offers are finalised for 20/21 college year).

Can DES claim that teacher inflated the grade (and all their other grades) and therefore did not act in bona fide and that the case wouldn't have come about if they had graded accurately in the first place, leaving the teacher with part of the expensive high court bill?

Chaya Fresh Shoehorn wrote: »

My belief is that the DES should be dealing with any issues of suspected poor practice in teacher grading before the grades advance officially through any standardisation process. After that point (once they accept the grades as being reasonable predictions made in good faith based on acceptable factors) they should be accepting all responsibility for the grades.

I agree. If it gets to the stage that your principal/DP have signed off on it and the DES think your grades are in line with previous years for your school and don't adjust them, then I don't see why a teacher should be held accountable at that stage.

Treppen wrote: »

. Teacher on Joe Duffy saying that the school is trying to force him to change grades as the parent has found out the calculated grade somehow.
Says he was also told to up CBA grades.

Teacher emailed student advising them to drop... Parent outraged (but doesn't realise the teacher was probably trying to help him out by giving a heads up).


Grab popcorn

CBA results?

Just listening to it now... I missed the start... what was the issue that that parent had with her son being advised to do OL?

I’m calling shenanigans on that “email”.
For a start CBAs are not state exams . J Certs are not having state exams this year .
I can’t listen to a minute more of this . Gift Grub is very accurate !

km79 wrote: »

I’m calling shenanigans on that “email”.
For a start CBAs are not state exams . J Certs are not having state exams this year .
I can’t listen to a minute more of this . Gift Grub is very accurate !

Well Treppen said 'also up the CBA grades', so taking it at face value then the school is asking them to up LC and JC grades.

But again taking it at face value if the teacher sent them an email advising them to drop level then the teacher is in the wrong, that clearly implies they are being told they would not pass HL.

But the whole notion of the parent finding out the calculated grade, how is that possible?


I wonder was the teacher's identity verified by Joe's researchers?

History Queen wrote: »

Oh no, the teacher contacted the student since we were told not to? What were they thinking?
This whole situation is such a mess

There was always going to be incidents like this. I expect more to be honest.


what an absolute mess

I appreciate that the teacher in question was trying to help their student, but they are nowin a God-awful situation that is partially of their own making. I'm here still wading through the document on a "break" from correcting house exams. I won't be sad to see the back of this academic year.

Treppen wrote: »

Regards the teacher thinking the school possibly released the grade to a parent:

Not necessarily in this case but a tactic teachers need to be aware of when disclosing any info thinking it's a casual conversation.

Sometimes on rare occasions parents inflate any bit of info to strongarm an outcome. Parent could have been bluffing and started scattergunning everyone with phonecalls until they got information ... Then went onto someone else and said " Mr X told me this... Or Principal Y told me this".
It's a very clever tactic I've seen once or twice, it helps to escalate a gripe very quickly and implicate other people so you get your way.

Like ringing different customer service agents multiple times until you get a bit of info to use for next call. I do this a lot :pac:

Well one way or another, if that was their tactic, the school should have said 'sorry we can't release the grade, grades haven't been calculated yet (which they shouldn't be), and then checked with the teacher in question as to what happened.

Ah folks, do we have to take a swing at everyone that wanders in here and says something? It's not as if their minds will be changed byour anything we say. Don't bother, like!