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Asked for Facebook login in interview

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    If they asked me for my Facebook login details I'd just roll my eyes back in my head, fake a seizure and shout fucking DERP!!! and then dive across the desk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    I would say no. I have a fake name on facebook so that potential employers cannot see what I do in my own time. Business and private life should be kept apart.


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭Casillas


    Oh great! No non-facebookers need apply.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Another reason not to share your password is if you use the Shocking Nonsense method of choosing a password.

    "`Shocking nonsense` means to make up a short phrase or sentence that is both nonsensical and shocking in the culture of the user, that is, it contains grossly obscene, racist, impossible or other extreme juxtaposition of ideas. This technique is permissable because the passphrase, by its nature, is never revealed to anyone with sensibilities to be offended.

    Shocking nonsense is unlikely to be duplicated anywhere because it does not describe a matter-of-fact that could be accidentally rediscovered by anyone else and the emotional evocation makes it difficult for the creator to forget. A mild example of such shocking nonsense might be: `mollusks peck my galloping genitals.` The reader can undoubtedly make up many far more shocking or entertaining examples for himself or herself.
    "

    - Passphrase FAQ

    Giving out your password, which is chosen solely because of how secure it is, could lead to embarrassment or worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    ive decided that this story is bull****, if your profile is properly private on facebook it doesnt show up on searches.
    the lad probably doesnt have any mates and is making this up so people will try "add him"


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    Are people here for real? "if he had nothing to hide etc" that is an insane request, I have worked in HR for years. He should sue the hole off them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    I was reading where a mother is suing a school in America because they forced a 12 year old to give them her log in details and password to her facebook and email accounts. Present were the local Sheff armed with a taser, the school counselor and the principle and 1 other member from the school staff, no parent was present or informed about the situation. The child was forced to give them the details initially she refused, this was because the school found out that she said 'i hate the hall monitor' on her facebook page (they had a screen shot) and decided to punish her.

    cant link it but if you look up 12 year old facebook Minnesota it should pop up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    subway wrote: »
    because he has nothing to hide...

    I dont know how long i can keep this up, i thought someone who actually believes this would have taken over by now

    What's that got to do with anything? You never answered my question--would you hand over your phone, for example, or your email log-in?

    ETA: You git! I just saw the whited out bit now. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    Millicent wrote: »
    What's that got to do with anything? You never answered my question--would you hand over your phone, for example, or your email log-in?

    you got me, i surrender!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    subway wrote: »
    ive decided that this story is bull****

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46791850/ns/business-careers/#.T2tT1cWqBoo
    SEATTLE — When Justin Bassett interviewed for a new job, he expected the usual questions about experience and references. So he was astonished when the interviewer asked for something else: his Facebook username and password.
    Bassett, a New York City statistician, had just finished answering a few character questions when the interviewer turned to her computer to search for his Facebook page. But she couldn't see his private profile. She turned back and asked him to hand over his login information.

    Bassett refused and withdrew his application, saying he didn't want to work for a company that would seek such personal information. But as the job market steadily improves, other job candidates are confronting the same question from prospective employers, and some of them cannot afford to say no.

    In their efforts to vet applicants, some companies and government agencies are going beyond merely glancing at a person's social networking profiles and instead asking to log in as the user to have a look around.
    "It's akin to requiring someone's house keys," said Orin Kerr, a George Washington University law professor and former federal prosecutor who calls it "an egregious privacy violation."

    Questions have been raised about the legality of the practice, which is also the focus of proposed legislation in Illinois and Maryland that would forbid public agencies from asking for access to social networks.
    Since the rise of social networking, it has become common for managers to review publically available Facebook profiles, Twitter accounts and other sites to learn more about job candidates. But many users, especially on Facebook, have their profiles set to private, making them available only to selected people or certain networks.

    Companies that don't ask for passwords have taken other steps — such as asking applicants to friend human resource managers or to log in to a company computer during an interview. Once employed, some workers have been required to sign non-disparagement agreements that ban them from talking negatively about an employer on social media.

    Asking for a candidate's password is more prevalent among public agencies, especially those seeking to fill law enforcement positions such as police officers or 911 dispatchers.
    Back in 2010, Robert Collins was returning to his job as a correctional officer at the Maryland Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services after taking a leave following his mother's death. During a reinstatement interview, he was asked for his login and password, purportedly so the agency could check for any gang affiliations. He was stunned by the request but complied.

    "I needed my job to feed my family. I had to," he recalled.
    After the ACLU complained about the practice, the agency amended its policy, asking instead for job applicants to log in during interviews.
    "To me, that's still invasive. I can appreciate the desire to learn more about the applicant, but it's still a violation of people's personal privacy," said Collins, whose case inspired Maryland's legislation.

    Until last year, the city of Bozeman, Mont., had a long-standing policy of asking job applicants for passwords to their email addresses, social-networking websites and other online accounts.
    And since 2006, the McLean County, Ill., sheriff's office has been one of several Illinois sheriff's departments that ask applicants to sign into social media sites to be screened.
    Chief Deputy Rusty Thomas defended the practice, saying applicants have a right to refuse. But no one has ever done so. Thomas said that "speaks well of the people we have apply."

    When asked what sort of material would jeopardize job prospects, Thomas said "it depends on the situation" but could include "inappropriate pictures or relationships with people who are underage, illegal behavior."
    In Spotsylvania County, Va., the sheriff's department asks applicants to friend background investigators for jobs at the 911 dispatch center and for law enforcement positions.
    "In the past, we've talked to friends and neighbors, but a lot of times we found that applicants interact more through social media sites than they do with real friends," said Capt. Mike Harvey. "Their virtual friends will know more about them than a person living 30 yards away from them."

    Harvey said investigators look for any "derogatory" behavior that could damage the agency's reputation.
    E. Chandlee Bryan, a career coach and co-author of the book "The Twitter Job Search Guide," said job seekers should always be aware of what's on their social media sites and assume someone is going to look at it.
    Bryan said she is troubled by companies asking for logins, but she feels it's not a violation if an employer asks to see a Facebook profile through a friend request. And she's not troubled by non-disparagement agreements.
    "I think that when you work for a company, they are essentially supporting you in exchange for your work. I think if you're dissatisfied, you should go to them and not on a social media site," she said.

    More companies are also using third-party applications to scour Facebook profiles, Bryan said. One app called BeKnown can sometimes access personal profiles, short of wall messages, if a job seeker allows it.
    Sears is one of the companies using apps. An applicant has the option of logging into the Sears job site through Facebook by allowing a third-party application to draw information from the profile, such as friend lists.
    Sears Holdings Inc. spokeswoman Kim Freely said using a Facebook profile to apply allows Sears to be updated on the applicant's work history.

    The company assumes "that people keep their social profiles updated to the minute, which allows us to consider them for other jobs in the future or for ones that they may not realize are available currently," she said.
    Giving out Facebook login information violates the social network's terms of service. But those terms have questionable legal weight, and experts say the legality of asking for such information remains murky.

    The Department of Justice regards it as a federal crime to enter a social networking site in violation of the terms of service, but during recent congressional testimony, the agency said such violations would not be prosecuted.
    Lori Andrews, a law professor at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law specializing in Internet privacy, is concerned about the pressure placed on applicants, even if they voluntarily provide access to social sites.
    "Volunteering is coercion if you need a job," Andrews said.
    Neither Facebook nor Twitter responded to repeated requests for comment.

    In New York, Bassett considered himself lucky that he was able to turn down the consulting gig at a lobbying firm.
    "I think asking for account login credentials is regressive," he said. "If you need to put food on the table for your three kids, you can't afford to stand up for your belief.


    Loads of other examples on the net: https://www.google.ie/webhp?hl=en&tab=nw#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=employer+asked+for+facebook+password&oq=employer+asked+for+&aq=2&aqi=g3g-v1&aql=&gs_l=hp.1.2.0l3j0i15.1495l7027l0l9304l19l12l0l7l7l0l142l1299l5j7l19l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=2d4a72fe62cf8323&biw=1440&bih=785


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    subway wrote: »
    you got me, i surrender!

    You cheese eating surrenderin' monkey bastid!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    subway wrote: »
    i hope Sean Sherlock gets you!

    Before I get him first? :cool: :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Did you just quote an entire article?

    I was wondering why I just saw the "Sean Sherlock" signal up in the sky!

    :D

    The OP link had the shortened tabloid version - less details.
    ...As for Sean Sherlock, he can kiss my ageing ass! :D

    (I have a donkey out the back of my home)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Anyone who would put all there information up on Facebook is a fool, i dont nor never will have a Facebook account, people need to wise up and have a bit of cop on and common sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Biggins wrote: »
    ........
    (I have a donkey out the back of my home)


    One can only imagine the horror Mrs Biggins felt when she realised she had married a Sex Pervert.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Nodin wrote: »
    One can only imagine the horror Mrs Biggins felt when she realised she had married a Sex Pervert.

    ...She finally found her perfect match! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    I'm not on Facebook as I find Facebook itself an egregious invasion of privacy :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Source



    I think its fair enough to research someone before hiring them, but asking for there facebook login is a bit much IMO.
    Its basically like going through your phone or asking about your personal life, I don't see how its fully relevant to the employer.

    What do you think after hours?

    My answer ...sorry haven't used it in years, I cannot remember the password.
    simple :cool:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    I was recently hired into a job in which the CEO had looked up my facebook page (which I'd thought was private) and flicked through my 'Amsterdam' photo album. The album wasn't quite as awful as it could have been though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,948 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I was thinking something along the lines of what Seachmall said earlier: if the job had anything to do with IT, it's a test. If you give out login details when asked - no matter who is asking - you don't understand the basics of IT security, and you're out of a job.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    Two word reply. The second word being off


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭wilkie2006


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Don't join Facebook, live in the real world & have real friends.

    ...and talk to real people, not ones you meet online in virtual communities. Oh, wait... ;)



    (I'm not much of a FB fan either, though)


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭Evie90


    Facebook I actually wouldn't mind I only use it to talk to family and friends that are abroad so there's nothing remotely personal/sensitive on it but no way would I give anybody my email password there's bank, credit card, insurance and all sorts of other private information that I wouldn't let some stranger read it's one step away from opening someone's post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    Biggins wrote: »
    I would refuse.
    Invasion of personal privacy.

    If a company/business has a problem with me, I would expect them to show me evidence - not expect them to automatically wish me to lay my entire personal life and thoughts before them on their presumption that I might be guilty of something, have something to hide etc - and that I then have to prove I am innocent.

    Stuff them!


    you do realise that 98 % of people spend 99 % of their time finding reasons not to like you right ?? ( or the public in general )


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Try asking for the diameter of someone's urethra and offer to measure if not known. Would that get an interviewer fired? Would that get an interviewer sued? Would that get an interviewer facetime with a psychiatrist? Damn country!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    As long as they didn't ask for my boards account I'd be ok. No one should see what ****e I write there, thank feck it's private.........oh wait :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Resi12


    How in the world have we gotten to a stage where Facebook, a social media website where you usually goof off/talk to friends has become an indication of whether you get a job or not?

    "Do you want my Youtube account while you're at it, I like to watch cat videos in my spare time mixed with people eating cayenne pepper.
    Does that get me this job?"

    This is hilarious, people need to relax and stop taking Facebook so bloody seriously. It's actually a bit worrying that any potential employer would care what you do in your own time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭breadandjam


    Resi12 wrote: »
    It's actually a bit worrying that any potential employer would care what you do in your own time.


    I think all employers worry about what you do in your own time as it could influence how you carry out your job or whether you show up for work at all

    I think asking someone for their facebook log in contravenes employment law here as it would give you info as to whether the interviewee is married etc which you're not allowed to ask at interviews


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