Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Discussion Thread

Forest Demon wrote: »

PS3 or XBOX?

both

For me it keeps coming back to how much of a crying ****ing shame it is about those juggle combos, it's like they've taken an aspect of Tekken that was made too important and tripled the importance of it again. and they think they're making the game better. you can't make everyone rich by printing more money, your just reducing the value of things. And you can't make tekken good by giving everyone 13 frame launchers and giving even more importance into a system where hours or practice results in knowing a series of "phone numbers" that give 100 damage that is unavoidable upon inception.


launchers and the juggling system are now the only thing that matter in Tekken, with almost nothing else getting a word in (besides spacing, but that's mostly to avoid being launched) the usefulness of a move now is solely dependant on wither it's a launcher, a counter hit launcher or not, and wither it is or is not punishable by a launcher or vulnerable to being crushed by another launcher or not.

Juggles use to be the final frontier in tekken; the extra bit that made the difference between being good, and being really good, for TTT2 even having a good punishing game say something like a 30 for 10frame, 40 for 11/12 frame and 50 for 13 (I would class that as good punishing), will pale into insignificance if your looking at 80/110 damage for crushing, counter hit launching, or launch punishing. why block and punish a low or parry it when you could've crushed it with a hop kick for appropriately 2.5 times more damage?

I cannot understand why they don't set up a system for teching out of binding and wall splatting: the attacking player gets a free ride on the max damage train and here I am looking at creative follow ups after landing a 1+2 throw, to which 5 minute later I think, "what a ****ing waste of time, there an opportunity to tech which will leave me vulnerable to launch".

grab combos have escapes, chain attacks have escapes, throws have escapes, ground hitting has escapes. but juggling with a bind and a wall splat, your just sitting there.

In fact if tekken is going to go the way of huge combos that have no means of escape then they should also do the following:

Make all chain grabs (king, nina, etc) inescapable combos and wither or not you get hit by the entire thing depends on wither the attacking player remembers and inputs the combo correctly or not, just like juggle combos. The initial grapple for these combos are far more cumbersome then many launchers (compare any of the start up moves for kings grabs to his uf4 then compare the damage)

Make all low attacks in 10 hit combos unparryable make the entire combo jail on block, and make it a natural combo all the way through from the 2nd or 3rd hit just like juggle combos. for most characters the first hit or two of a 10 hit combo are slow, cumbersome attacks with **** range, **** tracking and poor crushing properties unlike some of their launchers.

then carry on to double the damage of ground hitting moves and lengthen the time to have to guarantee they connect after spiking, if your spiked instead of bound.
then make all mid high combos jail on block, make all unblockable attacks track both ways, and take at least 100 to 160 health. etc etc etc. and then throw away the build becasue you've completely ruined the game

(woah long rant)

Aurongroove wrote: »

the usefulness of a move now is solely dependant on wither it's a launcher, a counter hit launcher or not, and wither it is or is not punishable by a launcher or vulnerable to being crushed by another launcher or not.

And?

I don't think there's anything wrong with juggles. The ****ing wall combos are ridiculous though esp in TTT2 by the looks of things. There's a lot more to tekken than launching/juggling. It's just how things are punished. Spacing, movement, zoning and knowing your characters frames were always very important in 3d games esp Tekken. I think there's nothing wrong with getting in a solid damage punish

My opinion anyway

Yeah nice video, i played the demo its pretty awesome

Surely I can't be the only one who noticed this? (about 2:18)

SirAuronDX wrote: »

He punched off her clothes...that is a good skill to have

USE ALL OF THE SKILL POINTS :pac:

Prototype Jack is back? I can have two Jacks on one team?

Game of the Year.

They need only like... 3 more to have everyone ever plus new characters....

http://www.levelupyourgame.com/2012/07/13/tekken-tag-2-big-bikini-bundle-bad-girls-of-tekken-trailer/

Here it is, the reason why you don't need DOA anymore

Ah all I really want is a character customise option around as good as SCV. But Tekken seems more reluctant to let you mess around with their beloved characters

with all these characters it;s clear they're making the TTT a sort of "all stars" affair.

remember Tekken 4 came out with about 16 characters after TTT? I wonder how many character T7 will have.

Well Aurongroove kinda lives in Mayo now I think, and Steven broke his wrist so he's out for a few weeks I reckon.

That lust leaves me and Bob, although I've been trying to rope in others online. It's hard though, mostly they're scared to come in.

BigStupidGuy wrote: »

Well Aurongroove kinda lives in Mayo now I think, and Steven broke his wrist so he's out for a few weeks I reckon.

That lust leaves me and Bob, although I've been trying to rope in others online. It's hard though, mostly they're scared to come in.

Wtf. Did you threaten them or something? :P

Who was the kazuya player? Would like to play him some more. If yous want to come in this wednesday we can have at least 5 ppl for tekken casuals

I havent turned on the game since the last tournament that I went to about a year ago now. Could drop in if i knew there was a tekken related session though. I'd say i suck at this stage though

BigStupidGuy wrote: »

i sent one or two pm's to tekken zaibatsu members, there's no way I'll be able to organise them for tomorrow, but maybe soon.

batman_oh can you come wednesday's only? Or saturday's too?

it depends on the week for me really. Saturday day time would probably suit better a lot of the time but i do get the odd free wednesday too. Need somebody to solder a button on my useless Hori stick and get practicing a bit :pac: