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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,445 ✭✭✭fliball123


    Smiley11 wrote: »
    We're trying to buy in the city. Chain free but very little coming on the market that interests us. Have an offer in nearly 2 weeks & have heard nothing since. I thought the EA might have tried to get us to bid up by now..he said he was expecting another bid shortly after ours but nothing yet..that we know of! House is on about 6 weeks & he said viewings were "very busy" but I pass the house regularly & the blinds aren't moving...stalker-y I know!

    Seems to be a good few coming onto the market across the board though. Looks like a lot of landlords are giving up. Good luck with your sale!

    Well the amount of properties on daft and myhome are falling day on day I dont know where your getting your info but I have bee tracking this for a couple of months and back just as covid hit there where over 20k properties available on myhome alone now its down to about 18.5k.


  • Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭Smiley11


    fliball123 wrote: »
    Well the amount of properties on daft and myhome are falling day on day I dont know where your getting your info but I have bee tracking this for a couple of months and back just as covid hit there where over 20k properties available on myhome alone now its down to about 18.5k.

    Jeez relax! Your response is a tad hysterical. I'm talking about my own particular search in Cork City daily & there seems to be a few on every day which is good in my opinion for the times we're living in. I'm a buyer so I'd love to see prices drop. Its not happening at the moment but I'm also relieved to see houses coming on regularly even though they aren't for us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭cant26


    RANIA wrote: »
    Galway here, house up in daft yesterday, 18 viewings booked within the hour. Not enough houses too many buyers, we have lost another bidding war to deep pockets, getting frustrating as we are chain free

    I hear you. I actually can’t believe the way prices have gone in Galway city in the last three months.


  • Registered Users Posts: 42 Maitguel


    rJust a brief update. I was following this thread religiously in March/ April but left it for my own sanity. We closed our sale last week after jumping through many hoops with the bank (we were first buyers). I feel the banks will be lending less and less as this goes on, particularly where employers continue to avail of the wage subsidy. Neither of our employers did and even at that we had to submit regular letters from our employers about our income and position. In my area I see the demand for affordable housing (sub €300k) remains strong.

    On a side issue we are finding it impossible to get tradesmen with them booked up 8-10 weeks in advance. You would nearly want them booked in advance before you buy the property! Similarly with appliances and furniture, but we are getting there.

    Bottom line I think anyone who needs a property and can afford to buy without over extending themselves should. Also with that said don't take property advice from boards! :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Salanky


    Official letter of offer is in the post and should hopefully be followed swiftly by the loan pack. All going well the sellers plan to be gone by the 10th of September may actually happen.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 246 ✭✭Smiley11


    Ah tis all inertia. You will have a certain amount of people who don't want to believe in the impending recession asking and paying sky-high prices but their numbers will slowly dwindle over the next 9 months or so

    Sadly, there's no impending & recession is putting it mildly. People seem to be preoccupied with the virus (fair enough but I have to see beyond it) but realistically the fallout of this is going to be life altering for a lot of people.

    I've been monitoring the property market as an ordinary joe soap since 2015, through 2 house sales & now a house purchase. My husband is a numbers man & his instinct at the moment is not to buy. He wants to wait, simply because hes dissecting data & articles.

    Me...we have 2 small kids. We're living between our parents. We've found a kip of a house with amazing potential. In my humble opinion its been overpriced, possibly to preempt the forecasted 10%+ drop in prices. We put a low ball bid in & have a limit we will go to. If somebody else comes in higher, in a better position, then we have to walk away. We didn't go into that bid without a hell of a lot of thought. I'd estimate that we need to put 50k into that house just to move in. Our broker advised us to go in 10 -15% under asking as there isn't much movement in our price range at present. We put in an offer, were told another bid was imminent, & have heard nothing in nearly 2 weeks. If it doesn't work out, so be it. We still have more possible virus fallout & definite Brexit doom so it may work in our favour :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


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    please read the mod note in post #1


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Rhythmics


    Anyone buying or selling in Cork? I'm almost there. Hopefully photos will be taken on Tuesday and then up shortly after that

    I have a call with a broker next week to try to get approval in principle.

    I'm searching at the low-end of the scale though, single applicant, fairly low income, so I'll be looking for a shack.


  • Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Dolbhad


    Smiley11 wrote: »
    Our broker said there won't be any exceptions for the next couple of months but I've heard it could be longer. Very hard to predict at the moment I'd say as the banks are being so cautious.

    My broker said January at the earliest we could be looking at. We were originally going to wait it out as exemption was worth close to 50k for us but we need to buy soon so just going to have to work with 3.5 salary. Maybe best to not extend.
    Smiley11 wrote: »
    We're trying to buy in the city. Chain free but very little coming on the market that interests us. Have an offer in nearly 2 weeks & have heard nothing since. I thought the EA might have tried to get us to bid up by now..he said he was expecting another bid shortly after ours but nothing yet..that we know of! House is on about 6 weeks & he said viewings were "very busy" but I pass the house regularly & the blinds aren't moving...stalker-y I know!

    Seems to be a good few coming onto the market across the board though. Looks like a lot of landlords are giving up. Good luck with your sale!


    Cork is very busy at the moment. We are viewing properties on the second or third day of being up and bids already in. What I am seeing on the houses though we are bidding on is that underbidding is happening which is a good sign at least.

    A few houses we rang about that went up start of July were already sale agreed.

    I say a lot more landlords would like to leave but cannot lawfully evict tenants just yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭ebayissues


    One of the places I'm looking at, surveyor noted some issues and gave costing to be about 15kish.

    Do I negotiate offer of the house based on this? If so at what stage?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Worn Out


    Currently selling privately in the west on Daft. Seems quiet for us and kinda wished we had used an EA. Looking around the prices have certainly shot up locally in the last 6 months. Not decided on where to move to so may review decision and try again in spring.


  • Registered Users Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Dolbhad


    ebayissues wrote: »
    One of the places I'm looking at, surveyor noted some issues and gave costing to be about 15kish.

    Do I negotiate offer of the house based on this? If so at what stage?

    Are you sale agreed? If so, would bring it up as soon as possible and seek a reduction but they may not agree to it. But if you don’t ask, you don’t get.

    If not I would say it when putting in the final offer of why you won’t be going any higher


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,672 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Worn Out wrote: »
    Currently selling privately in the west on Daft. Seems quiet for us and kinda wished we had used an EA. Looking around the prices have certainly shot up locally in the last 6 months. Not decided on where to move to so may review decision and try again in spring.

    Counter intuitively, the highest number of house sales seem to be just before Christmas, not Summer, as might be expected, so keep it on the market.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,155 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Counter intuitively, the highest number of house sales seem to be just before Christmas, not Summer, as might be expected, so keep it on the market.

    I don't see what is counter-intuitive about that. The market peaks are in Spring and Autumn. In Summer people are on holidays and it is difficult to keep up with all olf the people needed to make a sale happen in the summer. As soon as the engineer comes back from holidays the solicitor goes on holidays and so on. Around Christmas people are busy with Christmas, the daylight hours are short and the weather is cold making viewing a property a less that satisfactory experience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭ebayissues


    Dolbhad wrote: »
    Are you sale agreed? If so, would bring it up as soon as possible and seek a reduction but they may not agree to it. But if you don’t ask, you don’t get.

    If not I would say it when putting in the final offer of why you won’t be going any higher




    Yup currently S.A. Still unresolved issues with the surveyor report - just trying to guage estimate of total cost involved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    Hi all,

    I posted last week looking for advice on bidding strategies - happy to report we're now sale agreed! :D

    Looking for another bit of advice now: a colleague recommended we use the same firm she used for the pre-purchase survey, as she had a very positive experience with them. They're an architectural and engineering firm; however, they're not registered with the SCSI. My husband is wondering if we'd be safer going with someone registered as a Chartered Surveyor. I don't know if it makes any difference.

    In case it's relevant, the house is less than 15 years old, in turnkey condition, very high standard of finish throughout.

    Any insight would be much appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭CarMc


    jokettle wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I posted last week looking for advice on bidding strategies - happy to report we're now sale agreed! :D

    .

    Sorry I’ve no advise on the surveyor question but wanted to ask how the bidding strategy worked ? We’ve been outbid a few times now & in one case the seller chose other bidders ahead of us as they had no chain. Just places a bid on another property now and ready to ping pong back and forth for another week - so weary of it now - any tips are welcome :-) Did you go in with the ultimatum or just bid it out ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    jokettle wrote: »
    Looking for another bit of advice now: a colleague recommended we use the same firm she used for the pre-purchase survey, as she had a very positive experience with them. They're an architectural and engineering firm; however, they're not registered with the SCSI. My husband is wondering if we'd be safer going with someone registered as a Chartered Surveyor. I don't know if it makes any difference.
    Quite honestly I cannot remember if the one I used was SCSI or not. What really matters is how good they are at finding where potential problems hide, and quite likely there will be 1 or 2 things (plumbing/electrical seems a common one) where they suggest getting a specialist in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    CarMc wrote: »
    Sorry I’ve no advise on the surveyor question but wanted to ask how the bidding strategy worked ? We’ve been outbid a few times now & in one case the seller chose other bidders ahead of us as they had no chain. Just places a bid on another property now and ready to ping pong back and forth for another week - so weary of it now - any tips are welcome :-) Did you go in with the ultimatum or just bid it out ?

    I got impatient with the back-and-forth so just went in with a compromise bid. The seller wanted about 20k above asking and had rejected several offers of the asking price from other bidders. According to the Estate Agent, the seller had wanted to list it at a higher asking price but the agent convinced him to lower the asking to get more people interested. So I was annoyed at them not accepting an offer at the asking, but I can begrudgingly understand their strategy!

    We put in a bid that was somewhere between their asking and their desired price, told the agent it was valid for that day only, and if we didn't go sale agreed we'd walk away. Then we had 7 nerve wracking hours waiting for a response :pac: We weren't quite at the top of our budget, but pretty close! Our loved ones will be getting hugs for Christmas and birthdays, but it was worth it :D

    We're also not in a chain, and we made it clear to the agent a couple of weeks ago that we have AIP and no covid payments so we're good to go. Don't know if it made any difference, but they did want proof of AIP and proof that we had made the booking deposit once we were sale agreed over the phone. We had all that sorted within an hour of the phone call, and the house went down off daft and myhome later in the evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    jokettle wrote: »
    I got impatient with the back-and-forth so just went in with a compromise bid. The seller wanted about 20k above asking and had rejected several offers of the asking price from other bidders. According to the Estate Agent, the seller had wanted to list it at a higher asking price but the agent convinced him to lower the asking to get more people interested. So I was annoyed at them not accepting an offer at the asking, but I can begrudgingly understand their strategy!

    We put in a bid that was somewhere between their asking and their desired price, told the agent it was valid for that day only, and if we didn't go sale agreed we'd walk away. Then we had 7 nerve wracking hours waiting for a response :pac: We weren't quite at the top of our budget, but pretty close! Our loved ones will be getting hugs for Christmas and birthdays, but it was worth it :D

    We're also not in a chain, and we made it clear to the agent a couple of weeks ago that we have AIP and no covid payments so we're good to go. Don't know if it made any difference, but they did want proof of AIP and proof that we had made the booking deposit once we were sale agreed over the phone. We had all that sorted within an hour of the phone call, and the house went down off daft and myhome later in the evening.

    Well done. The more very short time limited offers that are made the better. All that’s going on at the moment is effectively auctions outside an auction room.

    I got caught up in a bidding war - all very incremental, which I think kept people in - which I lost (but the winner couldn’t close because of Covid), despite going 20k above asking. The EA came back to me at that point and said it was back on the market so I said there was no point in talking unless the asking was at least 15k below the original asking. That was that.

    I’m now looking at another one which ticks virtually all boxes. So I’m weighing up to go in at very near asking, but on it’s only an offer for 24 hours, and then it’s off the table.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭CarMc


    jokettle wrote: »
    I got impatient with the back-and-forth so just went in with a compromise bid. The seller wanted about 20k above asking and had rejected several offers of the asking price from other bidders. According to the Estate Agent, the seller had wanted to list it at a higher asking price but the agent convinced him to lower the asking to get more people interested. So I was annoyed at them not accepting an offer at the asking, but I can begrudgingly understand their strategy!

    We put in a bid that was somewhere between their asking and their desired price, told the agent it was valid for that day only, and if we didn't go sale agreed we'd walk away. Then we had 7 nerve wracking hours waiting for a response :pac: We weren't quite at the top of our budget, but pretty close! Our loved ones will be getting hugs for Christmas and birthdays, but it was worth it :D

    We're also not in a chain, and we made it clear to the agent a couple of weeks ago that we have AIP and no covid payments so we're good to go. Don't know if it made any difference, but they did want proof of AIP and proof that we had made the booking deposit once we were sale agreed over the phone. We had all that sorted within an hour of the phone call, and the house went down off daft and myhome later in the evening.

    Well done ! & congrats. We are in a chain but our own house went sale agreed about a month ago and we’ve been in bidding wars since then. Every house we’ve bid on has gone 30k+ over asking -
    Not sure if agents are under pricing them or if we are in a mini bubble ! My own house only went 5k over so I’m not benefitting on either side of this. We are ready to go too and have proof of funds etc so thought that would go in our favour but hasn’t so far. There’s another bidder on the house I’m bidding on now and they went in at asking price so must be keen so not sure an ultimatum is an option for me but good to hear it did work - might use it on the next one :-/


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭Senature


    I've noticed that many houses for sale are currently unoccupied. The estate agents claim they are not rentals or executor sales. Can anyone shed some light on this? There surely can't be that many people who can afford to move on without selling up first?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    Senature wrote: »
    I've noticed that many houses for sale are currently unoccupied. The estate agents claim they are not rentals or executor sales. Can anyone shed some light on this? There surely can't be that many people who can afford to move on without selling up first?
    Chances are the EA is telling porkies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    Senature wrote: »
    I've noticed that many houses for sale are currently unoccupied. The estate agents claim they are not rentals or executor sales. Can anyone shed some light on this? There surely can't be that many people who can afford to move on without selling up first?

    Why would the EA say it's not an executor's sale? Surely these sales are more straightforward, i.e. no chain?

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭CarMc


    Senature wrote: »
    I've noticed that many houses for sale are currently unoccupied. The estate agents claim they are not rentals or executor sales. Can anyone shed some light on this? There surely can't be that many people who can afford to move on without selling up first?

    I've noticed that too, a lot of empty houses, but in each case the EA told me they had been previously rented or they were 'selling for the family', I prefer when I see the house is empty as it suits me for a possible quick sale. Not sure why they wouldn't tell you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Realistically how much would you need to earn to buy a 1/2 bed apartment in Dublin as a single person?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Realistically how much would you need to earn to buy a 1/2 bed apartment in Dublin as a single person?

    Look at where/what you want to buy and divide the asking price by 3.5.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Markitron


    Realistically how much would you need to earn to buy a 1/2 bed apartment in Dublin as a single person?

    If I was to hazard a guess, I would say about 50-60k for a nice 1-bed apt or a decent 2 bed. Maybe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Green Mile


    Realistically how much would you need to earn to buy a 1/2 bed apartment in Dublin as a single person?


    €50k would cover it, it would include the solicitor fees etc.
    Banks are at a higher risk lending to single people taking mortgages so they like to reduce that risk by asking you to put forward a 20% deposit as opposed to 10%.

    That’s something I wished someone had told me before I progressed.

    So to set expectations, single people would need to have a 20% deposit.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Markitron wrote: »
    If I was to hazard a guess, I would say about 50-60k for a nice 1-bed apt or a decent 2 bed. Maybe.

    Thats what I figured. I plan on switching jobs soon, so I should be in that range.
    Green Mile wrote: »
    €50k would cover it, it would include the solicitor fees etc.
    Banks are at a higher risk lending to single people taking mortgages so they like to reduce that risk by asking you to put forward a 20% deposit as opposed to 10%.

    That’s something I wished someone had told me before I progressed.

    So to set expectations, single people would need to have a 20% deposit.

    Thats fair, I was aiming for a 20% deposit. I have around 10% at the moment, so hopefully in a year or so I'll be ready.


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