BusConnects Dublin - Big changes to Bus Network

tom1ie wrote: »

Tymon parks pretty huge. So is Marlay Park. Don’t know if you can class them as inner Dublin? They’re inside the m50, well half of tymon is anyway.

Certainly not inner Dublin Tom.
Marlay is practically up the mountains

Dont forget the northside. Botanic Gardens, Fairview Park, St. Anne's Park. Heck Bull island is only 7km from O'Connell Bridge. How many other capital cities can you go kite surfing in?

Funnily enough, I've always seen Clontarf and Raheny referred to as low density suburbs, precisely because of St. Anne's and Bull Island.

trellheim wrote: »

Is BC a real thing or pie in the sky ? I am just dipping in as I have not been following . Is there dates and funding etc ?

It is very real and yes there are dates and allocated funding (can't remember the dates/figures off hand).

That aside BC also seems to be a political playground where some officials throw out all sort of ill-informed "facts" about it via social media.

thanks folks. the amount of wibble wibble I read about it seems to indicate it has the same status as West on Track, which is kind of why I was asking as I couldnt tell whether it was real or not.

marno21 wrote: »

Irish Times continuing to report on the citywide positives of BusConnects rather than repeatedly reporting issues with individual stakeholders

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/busconnects-if-they-take-the-garden-i-won-t-be-able-to-get-the-car-in-1.3750076

The quality of journalism in Ireland has always been poor, it's downright hilarious in it's foreign coverage they will often get the UK right but they get the US and it's politics so wrong it's comical.
They're reporting now how scared Donnie the Fascist should be of Nancy Pelosi and the democrats, the democrats in the US are door mats who are scared of their own shadow (with exception of the new bunch coming in), and Pelosi lost the house to the GOP within 2 years last time without getting any progressive priority other than equal pay for men and women passed. They talk about Donnie getting removed by the 25th or impeached without discussing how next to impossible either of those are to actually do.



With BusConnects though they seem to be engaging in a campaign to actually oppose it.



I got one of the journos alone and asked what in Gods name they're doing with this kind of article, that they know full well the network needs a redesign since their papers done many a story on how stupid the network is atm (number and number-a/b/c on opposite sides of the city, the timetables at stops being from the terminus not when it gets to that stop, bad design of routes etc)


There are apparently a few reasons:


1. It's easy to get something in when things are quiet and you've no ideas. There is always someone disadvantaged by every new plan, go to that minority and let them moan, wholla: article


2. They know the public is cynical about infrastructure plans. Ever since the Metro was first announced by FF then a pin stuck in it by FF (I think Cullen announced the metro more than once too) then canceled by FG then revived by FG, and similar with other plans, that the public is very very cynical with bright new infrastructure plans that are announced (witness the yawn with which Project Ireland 2040 was greeted). Espechally now that we have a Taoiseach who, in contrast to his predecessors treats the job as a purely ceremonial position where he pulls curtains back on plaques and cuts ribbons etc not actually doing anything with the power of the job to fix national problems.
It's not that people are opposed to many such plans, they just think they'll never actually happen because Luas and metro and BRT taught them that these plans just keep getting kicked down the road indefinitely. Journos play into that prejudice with these kinda stories. People love to whine rather than be constructive or positive. People love to judge, judging makes us feel superior and right, so they love those articles because they make them go "i told ye! it'll never happen they'll make a balls of it"


I've also noticed that journos in Ireland love being negative, they'll never give positive coverage to any govt plan no matter who's plan it is. Of course the one area where we could use a skeptical attitude, the business section, you don't get it.

Newspapers often keep stories like this on file to dump when it's quiet, or indeed over the Christmas period too.

Ironically the Dublin Inquirer is a local newspaper, while the Irish Times at least pretends to be a national one.

Despite this the Dublin Inquirer has run the best-informed article on Bus Connects by far!

MJohnston wrote: »

Dublin Inquirer is a great example of local journalism that is actually intelligent and investigative. Ireland lends itself much more to local journalism, much less to national outlets.

The IT and Indo and Examiner have three elements:


1. News news you can get on websites the day before, not unique stories they've researched themselves (that is nearly unheard of now and it's why old media is being crushed by online and youtube etc it's why for US politics news TYT and Secular Talk and even the ultra lefty Jimmy Dore carry more weight than CNN and MSNBC for under 35s)


2. Foreign news that I already explained is very very poorly understood



3. Opinion which is never unique or interesting or bringing a new perspective, it's always predictable to a tee what a specific commentator will think on an issue, and rarely does the headline have anything to do with the actual argument they make.






This is why they are dying, there is nothing there worth paying for.

A partial one way ballyfermot road for general traffic..... can’t see that one going down to well with locals...