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Jon Venables Identity revealed

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Typical crap of hiding behind "legal issues"


    No poster is making statements, the other site is, and you are censoring the link.

    I for one am shocked that a republican doesnt understand legality or due process! shocked!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Well you know who those murderers are mostly, they dont get new identities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭testicle


    Even Google knows the answer... Type Jon Venables into google, and don't click search.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    I weep for the younger generation who think that because its on the internet, anywhere on the internet, its true.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    What evidence is there that he is who they say he is? Besides a website putting his picture up.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Aoifey! wrote: »
    What evidence is there that he is who they say he is? Besides a website putting his picture up.

    Don't be silly. Evidence isn't needed these days. We just make our own minds up, see?

    And then burn his house down.

    It's a brave new world.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    I think people are forgetting the important question here - what the **** does "E203" mean on the pizzas in the photo?

    It means it's a Calcium Sorbate flavoured pizza. Mmmmh. Polyunsaturated fatty acid salt preservative, mmmmmmmh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    Einhard wrote: »
    Don't be silly. Evidence isn't needed these days. We just make our own minds up, see?

    And then burn his house down.

    It's a brave new world.
    Ah yes, that makes much more sense. I always thought evidence was a bit pointless anyways.

    3 cheers for random accusations!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Aoifey! wrote: »
    Ah yes, that makes much more sense. I always thought evidence was a bit pointless anyways.

    3 cheers for random accusations!

    sounds like something a paedowitchcommunist would say!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    I think it is him.


    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/James-Bulger-Killer-Jon-Venables-To-Be-Given-New-ID-After-Security-Breach-Revealed-Old-Identity/Article/201105115985161?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15985161_James_Bulger_Killer_Jon_Venables_To_Be_Given_New_ID_After_Security_Breach_Revealed_Old_Identity
    Child killer Jon Venables is to get a new secret name, because of a serious security breach which has revealed details of his current identity


    Its obvious that he needs the new ID because of this leak and the pictures.


    Here is a link to the facebook of the group that revealed his new identity.

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/CHRIS-children-have-rights-in-society/141671072532024


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭ Rafael Grumpy Giraffe


    sounds like something a paedowitchcommunist would say!
    I've already made my own mind up. Time for a kneecappin'


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,571 ✭✭✭Aoifey!


    sounds like something a paedowitchcommunist would say!
    I've already made my own mind up.
    Damn, it'll be all over the internet tomorrow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    I think people are forgetting the important question here - what the **** does "E203" mean on the pizzas in the photo?

    Aaaah I have gotten to the bottom of this mystery.

    *Tilts detective hat to the left*....the "E203" actually refers to the sum of 203 GBP that the pizza place, where he allegedly works, raised for a previous co-worker. BOOM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »

    Well nice to see the proles whipped up into a right old tizzy over Venables on that site. "Let's hope he gets what he deserves....hang him....kill him...break his legs...bash his brains..."

    Bloody morons, seeking to claim the high moral ground, whilst simultaneously salivating at the prospect of inflicting torture and pain on another person. Hypocrites of the highest order. But then, most don't give a sh!t about justice, but rather about sating their own hysteria.

    EDIT: I wonder if this group, claiming to work for the rights of children, have advocated the rights of ten year old Venables and Thompson? Not bloody likely... "Rights for some children, some of the time"!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Einhard wrote: »
    Well nice to see the proles whipped up into a right old tizzy over Venables on that site. "Let's hope he gets what he deserves....hang him....kill him...break his legs...bash his brains..."

    Bloody morons, seeking to claim the high moral ground, whilst simultaneously salivating at the prospect of inflicting torture and pain on another person. Hypocrites of the highest order. But then, most don't give a sh!t about justice, but rather about sating their own hysteria.
    Do you think that he should be put back in jail?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Do you think that he should be put back in jail?

    he is in jail


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭angelfire9


    From the website that allegedly revealed his new identity:
    We have just had to take the website down as We think there may of been a deliberate hack, to shut it down, by police or goverment officials. The technical team are looking into it and it will be back up later after we have seen where the threat came from

    On the discussions section of their facebook page there is then this:
    Displaying the only post.

    Sally Robertson
    Just to let you know, although we obviously all appreciate C.H.R.I.S, the picture of Jon Venables is a mistake. That's not him.
    49 minutes ago

    From Sky News:
    Child killer Jon Venables is to get a new secret name, because of a serious security breach which has revealed details of his current identity.

    A source said: "We had resisted a new ID because he had lived with the first one for so long and it's very difficult to do that.
    "But the new security breach is considered so serious that a new identity is the only answer, because we believe so many people will have learned who he is and it would be impossible to protect him."

    What therefore did the website in question hope to achieve?
    Firstly we have no idea if it was him or not
    Secondly the authorities in the UK are issuing him with new ID papers now anyway at a cost of €1,000's to the UK taxpayer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    he is in jail
    You know what I mean for a long long time


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Do you think that he should be put back in jail?


    If he commits a crime warranting incarceration, then of course he should be locked up.

    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    You know what I mean for a long long time

    I think he should be judged according to the crime he commits, not those he once committed. And sentenced accordingly. Everyone has this right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    stovelid wrote: »
    The bastion of moral probity once again allows us to sleep easy in our beds.

    Hurrah!


    nope.... they got wi-fi in jail ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Pdfile wrote: »
    nope.... they got wi-fi in jail ;)

    Lookey here boys, found me one, one of them Pdfiles.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Einhard wrote: »
    Well nice to see the proles whipped up into a right old tizzy over Venables on that site. "Let's hope he gets what he deserves....hang him....kill him...break his legs...bash his brains..."

    Bloody morons, seeking to claim the high moral ground, whilst simultaneously salivating at the prospect of inflicting torture and pain on another person. Hypocrites of the highest order. But then, most don't give a sh!t about justice, but rather about sating their own hysteria.

    EDIT: I wonder if this group, claiming to work for the rights of children, have advocated the rights of ten year old Venables and Thompson? Not bloody likely... "Rights for some children, some of the time"!!

    GRAPHIC!

    Those two ten year old boys decided to kill a child that day, any child. They walked around the shopping centre 'shopping' for a child. Unluckily for Jamie he was the one they picked. They didn't just kill him outright, they walked him the best part of three miles on his baby legs, they terrorised him, hurt him, threw bricks at him, tortured him, possibly sexually assaulted him. He suffered 42 injuries (lots of them fractures) so bad that the injury which killed him couldn't be identified. Then they left his body on a railway track - covered his head with bricks and he was cut in two by a train. FFS! He was two years old.

    Since then one of them has been jailed again for possessing child pornography, pictures of children some as young as Jamie Bolger.

    While I wouldn't like to see them suffer the same fate as Jamie, I would prefer that they were locked up forever unable to subject another human being to the same treatment. I can understand why people get so 'hot and bothered' about Thompson and Venables being on the loose. :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    A Convicted child-murderer and paedophile's identity is kept secret..WHY???

    So what if he gets stabbed to death..he richly deserves it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Degsy wrote: »
    A Convicted child-murderer and paedophile's identity is kept secret..WHY???


    Thats not the question to be asking. The question to be asking is why 2 ten year olds did this, what went through their mind . Did they set out to murder that day ?
    On that day 3 children lost their lives with no questions answered. 2 of them are still alive , but instead of sitting down talking to them learning what actually happened, getting an early indication of signs this might happen again , its back to the "get the pitch forks" mentality.

    Back then the reason given to why they killed Jamie was put down to the childsplay movies. Not Society or their parents, lack of security, or lack of police response.

    In the end Justice was served and they did their time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dr gonzo


    Degsy wrote: »
    A Convicted child-murderer and paedophile's identity is kept secret..WHY???

    So what if he gets stabbed to death..he richly deserves it.

    Not that i dont agree with you, scum doesnt even cover what that guy is but the law is the law, either hes in prison serving his sentence or hes free, its not up to the general public to know who he is so that he can live in a constant state of danger and harassment because thats a sentence all to itself and not one a modern society would give somebody.

    I'd prefer to see someone that sick in the head locked away but the courts sent him out into the world, they determined that his sentence was complete so by their conclusion he's now deserving of a life of his own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Thats not the question to be asking. The question to be asking is why 2 ten year olds did this, what went through their mind . Did they set out to murder that day ?
    On that day 3 children lost their lives with no questions answered. 2 of them are still alive , but instead of sitting down talking to them learning what actually happened, getting an early indication of signs this might happen again , its back to the "get the pitch forks" mentality.

    Back then the reason given to why they killed Jamie was put down to the childsplay movies. Not Society or their parents, lack of security, or lack of police response.

    In the end Justice was served and they did their time.


    Or may be just because they are evil little bastards?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Or may be just because they are evil little bastards?


    No rhyme or reason they were born evil :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Thats not the question to be asking. The question to be asking is why 2 ten year olds did this, what went through their mind . Did they set out to murder that day ?
    On that day 3 children lost their lives with no questions answered. 2 of them are still alive , but instead of sitting down talking to them learning what actually happened, getting an early indication of signs this might happen again , its back to the "get the pitch forks" mentality.

    Back then the reason given to why they killed Jamie was put down to the childsplay movies. Not Society or their parents, lack of security, or lack of police response.

    In the end Justice was served and they did their time.

    According to one of the investigating officers this evening, they did set out to murder. They admitted it and there was evidence.

    The officer also said they knew what had happened, they were able to track it bit by bit with the boys corroborating but they were given absolutely no indication by either of the lads as to motivation.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    He should be identified and the protection should stop right away. Such a waste of money and he obviously is a horrible human being. Doesnt deserve anything nevermind protection and Im sure theirs a much better and cheaper way to deal with people like that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,615 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Thats not the question to be asking. The question to be asking is why 2 ten year olds did this, what went through their mind . Did they set out to murder that day ?
    On that day 3 children lost their lives with no questions answered. 2 of them are still alive , but instead of sitting down talking to them learning what actually happened, getting an early indication of signs this might happen again , its back to the "get the pitch forks" mentality.

    Back then the reason given to why they killed Jamie was put down to the childsplay movies. Not Society or their parents, lack of security, or lack of police response.

    In the end Justice was served and they did their time.

    While they were in detention they would have had countless meetings with psychologists, counsellors, etc to try and establish exactly that.

    It was obviously felt that that the 2 were rehabilitated and no longer a threat to public safety and should be given new identities upon release.

    When Venebables was arrested for possesison of child pornography, it was this new identity/person they created that committed the crime and therefore should be named and shamed like any other criminal.

    It seems Thompson has kept out of trouble thus far, so not so many are calling for him to be outed.


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