Future Classics

fancy pigeon · 03-08-2015 4:55pm

Citroens! Likes of the Xantia and XM (when was the last time you saw either on the road?)

Peugeot 405, 406, 605

E34 are a rare sight these days

Henry Ford III · 03-08-2015 7:13pm

High performance low volume models tend to become sought after.

ht9zni1gs28crp · 04-08-2015 12:10pm

davidglanza wrote: »

I think the Mitsubishi evo 3 will be a classic..

In this vein, the Evo 1RS and the Galant 6G VR4 will be classics before this...

Myrddin · 06-08-2015 10:31am

What about the Mitsubishi GTO?

Dow99 · 06-08-2015 10:42am

The Pininfarina designed Peugeot 406 coupé.

http://s1145.photobucket.com/user/mrobbo15/media/Car%20sale%20photos/IMG_2395_zps5b6a2d58.jpg.html

Dades · 06-08-2015 12:07pm

I'd have mentioned that but afaic it's already a classic!

ht9zni1gs28crp · 06-08-2015 12:18pm

Myrddin wrote: »

What about the Mitsubishi GTO?

As a previous owner of one of these I loved it as a Grand Tourer...arguably the Skyline and Supra as its rivals were its biggest nemesis. Largely overlooked but what a beast!

Nekarsulm · 06-08-2015 11:25pm

Talking about Citroen, anyone notice the ad. on DO for a pair of DS spares cars down in Waterford?

davidglanza · 07-08-2015 8:18pm

miller_63 wrote: »

In this vein, the Evo 1RS and the Galant 6G VR4 will be classics before this...

But aren't the evo 3s very rare here in ireland

hi5 · 08-08-2015 12:33pm

Most of the cars listed in this thread would not be wrecked in a field today like the OP said.
What you need to do is go on to a website and search for cars listed less than €500 and pick out anything slightly interesting.

Tzar Chasm · 08-08-2015 6:43pm

Exactly, thats what i was thinking when i started this thread.

I probably should have titled it

Overlooked Future classics

Thinkingaboutit · 08-08-2015 7:01pm

Some of these cars are at a stage where they can be bought for next to nothing, and will be thrashed about by uncaring owners. Some of the last or late Rovers were pretty good. It shows what could have been were it for the plunder of the company by the Towers consortium.

edburg · 10-08-2015 2:23pm

Henry Ford III wrote: »

low volume models tend to become sought after.

This in my mind.

Things like
Lancer Evo Tommi Makinen editions (5 and 6, not sure there were others),
309 Goodwood GTi (already getting hard to find),
Astra OPC Nurburgring editions (I do own 1 afterall),
Focus RS's (RS500 big earner)
R26 Megane's (think it was named this)
Golf GTi edition 30

405 is good call, Mi16. Not sure they were limited editions but a good car
Renault 19 turbo's are rare enough etc etc etc

Personally I don't think basic Focus ST's, Golf GTi, Astra OPC's will have same influence's on classic market as the old escort rs, gte etc. There is just to many in modern day, to me the markets way more flooded with these cars, where as 70's, 80's these cars were harder to come by for alot of families.

ht9zni1gs28crp · 10-08-2015 3:21pm

edburg wrote: »

Lancer Evo Tommi Makinen editions

Tommi Makinen editions were run as the Evo 6 only even though the majority of WRC wins for Tommi came in an Evo 5 RS. A further development of the Evo 6 and in technical terms was dubbed the Evo 6.5. Tighter steering rack and upgraded turbo along with 'red' Recaro interior are the major differences between the 6 and the 6.5

Can you guess I used to own one

Tzar Chasm · 10-08-2015 6:05pm

A lot of people are listing low volume high spec cars here, its kinda missing the point of the thread, obviously a tommy makinen evo will be a classic, but what about an unmolested 1.4 lancer?

here are a few that i think fit the bill, ordinary cars that were ubiquitous 10 years ago, but are already scarce on the roads

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/suzuki-baleno-1-3l-petrol/10120533?offset=7

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-rover-75/10118854?offset=4

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-323-2001/10117555?offset=14

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-1-6-no-nct-read-add/9344361?offset=19

edburg · 10-08-2015 8:17pm

Not missing point at all imo. A real classic for me is it needs a certain amount of desirability like a limited edition model. For current cars (5-10 yrs old) today those listed are only ones that really stick out or maybe a car with every option list box ticked.

Standard cars can be classic but as I said the current market flooded with so many, for 1 of them to seen as a true desirable classic you need to find one with true low mileage of 30k miles at 25 years old.

edburg · 10-08-2015 8:18pm

miller_63 wrote: »

Tommi Makinen editions were run as the Evo 6 only even though the majority of WRC wins for Tommi came in an Evo 5 RS. A further development of the Evo 6 and in technical terms was dubbed the Evo 6.5. Tighter steering rack and upgraded turbo along with 'red' Recaro interior are the major differences between the 6 and the 6.5

Can you guess I used to own one

If it was me I'd still have had it

ht9zni1gs28crp · 10-08-2015 8:50pm

edburg wrote: »

If it was me I'd still have had it

It was too minty fresh for me! 40,000km on clock. I sold it on as too many track days were tempting me. I replaced it with an even rarer Evo1 RS which will undergo full restoration pretty soon

selectamatic · 11-08-2015 7:28pm

Just had a quick look through some of the adds I've saved on done deal and here's some that hadn't been sold/removed and aren't mad dear pricewise yet.
Obviously evo's and rx7's and chasers etc.. will be worth alot but they're already commanding high prices so really I wouldn't quite say they fit the bill.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-mrs-mr2-1-8-one-off/10094885?offset=10 MRS very under appreciated car even though its the best handling mr car toyota ever made.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mr2-turbo/9535352?offset=12 Mr2 turbo's are the true bargain Jap performance cars at the moment!

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-carina-e-2-0-gli/10108070 nice well spec'd carina's. the carina II's are already on the up.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-celica-trd/9987389 the last of the 90's celica's any model, obviously gt4 but ssIII too.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/v6-calibra/10109454?offset=1 Vauxhall calibra's also Nova's 3 door astra hatchbacks under 1996, omega's and cavalier's.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-sierra/10105637 All sierra's

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-318i/10067398 E30 and E36 bmw's

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1990-honda-civic-1-3-automatic/10002780 All EF civics saloons or hatchbacks the Sir ones are big money already.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-eg4-for-sale/9978163 Eg civics likewise.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/99-subaru-forester-turbo/9883459 Subaru foresters, legacy's and impreza's of any spec aslong as they have a turbo.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1992-audi-80-1-9-diesel/9662413 Audi 80's

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/micra-k10/9859806 Micra k10's will probably go the way of boxy starlets.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/boxy-starlet-mintsold/9915521 Said boxy starlet

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-starlet-1-3-litre-petrol/9967954 well spec'd ep80 starlets aswell

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-900se/9896690 All saabs before GM really put the boot in! Obviously a 900 classic would be better but good ones are getting dear.

Any T5 volvo will also be desirable C70t5 and 850r being the picks of the bunch. Also the rwd 40 series will continue to rise in price.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-estima-for-breaking/9965750 Finally the oddest choice I feel but there is something about a mid engined rwd family mini van that I believe will make them appealing!

Obviously there are many other better and desirable cars than those above but I feel cheap examples of the above cars can still be got and they will rise in price and desirability.

Also forgot to add in the lexus ls400 One of them put away until it qualify's for vintage tax is another great bet as they are an outstanding luxury car.
and the same could be said for many cars over the 2.0 mark its just finding the space to keep them stored away from the elements.

Tzar Chasm · 13-08-2015 11:38pm

I liked the previa,

interestingly the bbc series back in time for dinner used a previa as the quintessential 90s family car.

they used a mk3 escort for the eighties and a cortina for the seventies, cant remember the 50s or 60s

Nekarsulm · 14-08-2015 7:34am

Small cars with the biggest available engine, polo G charged etc, Seat Arousa, VW Up! etc. Even the modern Beetle now that prices have dipped to near the 1000 mark.would be worth putting away. I like the mk1 Twingo, still all over the place here in France.

Tzar Chasm · 14-08-2015 1:08pm

I think regular small cars will be just as desireable, after all we dont all drive GTi's.

T5rtara · 24-11-2015 4:10pm

Hi i have a T5r bought recently and i can't get key fob to work it has power tested for that i don't know much history about the car she has a good service record any ideas folks Thanks in advance Tara

Silvera · 25-11-2015 12:29am

T5rtara wrote: »

Hi i have a T5r bought recently and i can't get key fob to work it has power tested for that i don't know much history about the car she has a good service record any ideas folks Thanks in advance Tara

I think you are in the wrong section ....this section is for classic cars (which dont have key fobs).

Kenny Logins · 25-11-2015 12:43am

Nice car though..

whisky_galore · 25-11-2015 1:04pm

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

I think regular small cars will be just as desireable, after all we dont all drive GTi's.

Have a bit of an oddity, an '89 Escort panel van, petrol engine not the usual diesel. Have it put away under cover just in case. Commercials tend to be made in smaller numbers than car counterparts and more likely to be unloved and driven into the ground.

kev1.3s · 25-11-2015 2:21pm

Silvera wrote: »

I think you are in the wrong section ....this section is for classic cars (which dont have key fobs).

Ah but this thread is for future classics and that is a future classic for sure.

ht9zni1gs28crp · 25-11-2015 5:49pm

Silvera wrote: »

I think you are in the wrong section ....this section is for classic cars (which dont have key fobs).

The 'new' classics that are appearing have all the mod cons you desire including key fobs

sogood · 26-11-2015 6:24pm

miller_63 wrote: »

The 'new' classics that are appearing have all the mod cons you desire including key fobs

My car has a key fob and I regard it as a future classic. In fact, it's getting there by degrees, as it's almost 20 years old now and is my daily driver. It's still a somewhat "modern" car at the same time, but I believe it will have its' day. Maybe I'm just caught somewhere in the middle at the moment?

It's a 1996 Jaguar XJ6 4.0 l Sovereign, with all the whistles and bells. It's certainly not "paddy spec" particularly as it was originally a UK car, but was imported to Ireland some years ago.

A tiny bit limited, as this model (X300) was only produced between 95-97 having taken over from the older XJ40. Big tax is seeing the demise of these cars and maybe in ten years time there will be even less of them on the roads.

As it is, I do a lot of driving for work, all over the country and I could count on one hand, the number of these XJ's that I would see over a year.

So yes, a future classic, from a very biased owner...........

littlevillage · 01-12-2015 1:25pm

The Elephant in the room regarding "classic" cars is that nobody will be driving vehicles with Internal combustion engines in 20 years time. Everything will be electric/battery/hydrogen by then.

A couple more smallish advances eg. ramp up the infrastructure (charging points) and make a few improvements to battery life ....and its curtains for fossil fuel engines.

So your future classics could be worthless .. it will probably be illegal to drive them. (or prohibitively expensive to pay for a special carbon emissions license $$$$)

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