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November 2018 Boards weather forecast contest

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After the first week of November ...

    IMT on 8.1 C which is 0.3 below average.

    MAX 16.3 and MIN --5.0

    PRC 159% of normal, ranged from slightly below in west, to almost three times normal in southeast.

    SUN 110% of normal (659/600).


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,105 ✭✭✭John mac


    Max gust at roches point at 13:00 58 Kts


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,105 ✭✭✭John mac


    Malin head and Sherkin both reported max gust of 59 Kts


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Thanks for reporting those max gusts, I won't bother to update the tracker from a previous post until we get another event worth noting, but the people who picked the 7th are now in the lead for the timing. I suspect the event on the 3rd may hold as either second or third place now, although there could easily be two more events that exceed 47 knots. They would have to be two separate events and not two consecutive days from the same event.

    I also noticed looking at yesterday's weather that every station in Ireland had over 10 mm of rain yesterday. We could easily see the month's normal rainfall in the first two weeks (in other words twice normal rainfall to that point).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Looking at the charts it does look like that there will be only small amount of rain likely beyond the end of this week. It looks like there will be an anticyclone building from the east over next weekend and probably persist right to the end of the month. Some chance of the monthly max temperature being recorded either on Wednesday and Thursday.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    It has been a rather mild start to November, the second half looks equally cold and the net result will probably be close to normal for the month, like NormaL needs any more points.

    As a rough guide to how mild, with respect to the CET for the net-weather contest (only temperature and precip there), I calculated some running means for November to the 16th and beyond, only eight years managed to stay 10.0 or higher (as I think this November will do) to the middle of the month, out of 246 in the daily data base. So if this were to be the ninth such year, that's about 3% of the years with this mild a first half (over there anyway, I find pretty close correlation most months). Other years that were running above 10.0 in the second half were 1817, 1818, 1852, 1938, 1978, 1994 and 2011.

    I just checked the daily wind gust situation and past few days not quite able to match the top two we've had so far, perhaps today or tomorrow might do so. Unless we get a howling easterly near the end of the month we'll be holding on to see if any storms can break down the block that is apparently developing. Otherwise all three of the contenders might have come and gone by this weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    It has been a rather mild start to November, the second half looks equally cold and the net result will probably be close to normal for the month, like NormaL needs any more points.

    As a rough guide to how mild, with respect to the CET for the net-weather contest (only temperature and precip there), I calculated some running means for November to the 16th and beyond, only eight years managed to stay 10.0 or higher (as I think this November will do) to the middle of the month, out of 246 in the daily data base. So if this were to be the ninth such year, that's about 3% of the years with this mild a first half (over there anyway, I find pretty close correlation most months). Other years that were running above 10.0 in the second half were 1817, 1818, 1852, 1938, 1978, 1994 and 2011.

    I just checked the daily wind gust situation and past few days not quite able to match the top two we've had so far, perhaps today or tomorrow might do so. Unless we get a howling easterly near the end of the month we'll be holding on to see if any storms can break down the block that is apparently developing. Otherwise all three of the contenders might have come and gone by this weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,867 ✭✭✭pauldry


    An average month can have a deeper story cant it

    Im hoping for a howling Easterly or a Northerly gale to end month. Looks dry from Friday

    Interesting weather in weeks ahead methinks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Updates on the Bonus Wind Max Gust Forecasts and Actuals (updated to 14th)
    ____________________________________________________________

    closest in terms of speed so far (59) __ 59 MrSkinner, 60 (Jpmarn, Artane2002, dasa29), 58 JCXBXC


    DATE _ n __ forecasts

    3rd ___ 6*__ 52 to 61 knots (actual was 47) (3rd)

    7th ___ 3 __ 52 (sryanbruen), 60 (Artane2002) and 68 (Bsal) knots
    9th __________ (actual was 59) (1st)

    13th __ 1 __ 73 knots __ BLIZZARD7 (actual was 44) (see 14th)
    14th __________ (actual was 53) (2nd)
    15th __ 1 __ 72 knots __ dacogawa

    17th __ 1 __ 58 knots __ JCXBXC

    19th __ 1 __ 60 knots __ Dasa29

    20th __ 1 __ 56 knots __ Rameire

    21st __ 1 __ 64 knots __ Joe Public

    22nd __ 1 __ 63 knots __ DOCARCH

    23rd __

    24th __ 1 __ 65 knots __ Tae laidir

    25th __ 1 __ 65 knots __ John mac

    26th __

    27th __ 2 __ 65 (rikand) and 72 (waterways) knots

    28th __

    29th __ 2 __ 61 (kindred spirit) and 70 (M.T. Cranium) knots

    30th __ 2 __ 60 (mickger844posts) and 75 (Pauldry) knots

    _______________________________________________________

    * The six who share forecasts on the 3rd are (from low to high forecast)

    sunflower3 (52), Adam240610 (54), 200motels (56), MrSkinner (59), Jpmarn (60), sdanseo (61)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I will be updating tomorrow for the second week. By the way, just noticed a gust to 50 knots today at Belmullet, possibly not the maximum for the day around the country, so that will upgrade 13th and 15th forecasts to shared second place while dropping the 3rd to third place.

    The IMT was on 8.2 after 13 days and if today averages 12 as I would expect, then it will soar to 8.5. Could edge up or remain around that for two or three more days. If second half then averages 4, the outcome will be around 6.5 at end of the month.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After two weeks ...

    IMT now on 8.5, the second week was 8.8 which is 1.1 above normal for the period 8th to 14th. With the second half of the month looking quite cold, if the IMT stays near 8.5 after today, the end of month would be 6.3 if the second half averages 4.0.

    MAX still 16.3 (yesterday managed 15.7) and MIN --5.0.

    PRC now at 169% of normal after another wet week, 179% of normal. With relatively dry weather in view, this amount so far guarantees an outcome of 80%, while half normal precip from now to end results in an outcome of 105% of normal.

    SUN now at 94.5% with this second week a bit on the cloudy side even for November, at 79% (475/600). I won't speculate on how this ends up since, well, it's November and any sort of dry air mass can cloud up in a hurry. But it will probably finish close to normal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After three weeks of November ...

    IMT on 8.3, the past week averaged 7.8 which is 0.7 above normal (for 14-21 Nov). This still looks like falling steadily into the low 7 range but recent model output not as cold near end of the month, may stall around 7.0 for final value.

    MAX 16.3 and MIN --5.0 still standing, neither looks severely challenged at this point.

    PRC now 134% of normal, the past week a relatively dry 60% (near or above normal in the southeast, fairly dry elsewhere). The rest of the month looks wet enough to sustain that sort of outcome, possibly a bit lower but not much.

    SUN now at 111% of normal, the past week 143% of normal (860/600). The average daily sunshine now is only two hours or so, which means that it would be difficult to come in much lower if there are breaks in the overcast from time to time.

    As to the bonus question for maximum wind gusts, see the post earlier (on 14th) which has not required any new editing, the strongest gust since the 15th was 41 knots at Malin Head yesterday, that is fourth highest separate event so not a qualifier for points. Looking at the latest guidance, would say that 28th and 30th could be contenders, will of course treat any overnight two-day events as one for determining the separate events. Of the two, 28th looks stronger and could overtake first place, the 30th as shown now looks borderline 3rd place and needs to get in before midnight (the event rule will not mean counting gusts on 1st Dec even if it's the same event that started on 30th).


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    IMT through 24 days has fallen to 7.9, now thinking it will finish a lot higher than 7.0 as earlier estimated because 28th-29th looking milder than current average, may not fall much at all now.

    Meanwhile, this is the state of play for the bonus question heading into the final few days and predicted strong winds (mostly 28th-29th). I think to be somewhat more generous on points, if anything from 28th on goes to first place, then we will include all sub-events in that final phase, spread the points out a bit wider, and keep 2nd and 3rd in the places where 1st and 2nd now are. Otherwise we could end up bouncing two of those out and technically most of the field would be then looking at zero timing points. The models are suggesting either 28th or 29th could produce somewhat separated events that gust over 60 knots, we shall see about that. And yes, I do have a tardis, kindred spirit was in it too. ;)


    Updates on the Bonus Wind Max Gust Forecasts and Actuals (updated to 14th)
    ____________________________________________________________

    closest in terms of speed so far (59) __ 59 MrSkinner, 60 (Jpmarn, Artane2002, dasa29), 58 JCXBXC


    DATE _ n __ forecasts

    3rd ___ 6*__ 52 to 61 knots (actual was 47) (3rd) (drops to 4th on 27th)

    7th ___ 3 __ 52 (sryanbruen), 60 (Artane2002) and 68 (Bsal) knots
    9th __________ (actual was 59) (1st) -- stays first for time being 27th

    13th __ 1 __ 73 knots __ BLIZZARD7 (actual was 44) (see 14th)
    14th __________ (actual was 53) (2nd) -- drops to 3rd on 27th
    15th __ 1 __ 72 knots __ dacogawa

    17th __ 1 __ 58 knots __ JCXBXC

    19th __ 1 __ 60 knots __ Dasa29

    20th __ 1 __ 56 knots __ Rameire

    21st __ 1 __ 64 knots __ Joe Public (actual was 41) -- 4th highest event so far

    22nd __ 1 __ 63 knots __ DOCARCH

    23rd __

    24th __ 1 __ 65 knots __ Tae laidir

    25th __ 1 __ 65 knots __ John mac

    26th __

    27th __ 2 __ 65 (rikand) and 72 (waterways) knots (preliminary -- max gust 57 knots) -- 2nd for now

    28th __

    29th __ 2 __ 61 (kindred spirit) and 70 (M.T. Cranium) knots

    30th __ 2 __ 60 (mickger844posts) and 75 (Pauldry) knots

    _______________________________________________________

    * The six who share forecasts on the 3rd are (from low to high forecast)

    sunflower3 (52), Adam240610 (54), 200motels (56), MrSkinner (59), Jpmarn (60), sdanseo (61)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    The highest gust I noticed was 57 knots earlier today, have edited the table above. May not have the edit function by this time tomorrow but will update from Diana's doings ... will be generous with the timing points if you're anywhere in the vicinity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭waterways


    Saw 66 at Sherkin Island today. Don't know if that was the highest gust.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    IMT currently sits at an estimated 7.7, had reached 7.54 after 27 days, today will boost that back up. Fourth week report tomorrow ...

    Here's an update on the wind gust situation using data that were reported on hourly obs earlier today ... the last time I posted this on the 25th, I forgot to update the title so it incorrectly says (updated to 15th). Caught that this time, and have updated all the rest of the info, subject to a minor tweak when today's max gust confirmed.


    Updates on the Bonus Wind Max Gust Forecasts and Actuals (updated to 28th)
    ____________________________________________________________

    for timing, I will treat the various sub-events of 27th-28th as one event for timing points.
    ... this will include 29th and 30th if any gusts on those days surpass current 3rd place.

    closest in terms of speed so far (66) __ 65 Tae laidir, Rikand, John mac

    (edit -- this was later reported as 62, closest to that would be two at 61 and one at 63.)


    DATE _ n __ forecasts

    3rd ___ 6*__ 52 to 61 knots (actual was 47) -- (drops to 4th on 27th-28th)

    7th ___ 3 __ 52 (sryanbruen), 60 (Artane2002) and 68 (Bsal) knots
    9th __________ (actual was 59) -- (drops to 2nd place on 28th)

    13th __ 1 __ 73 knots __ BLIZZARD7 (actual was 44) (see 14th)
    14th __________ (actual was 53) -- drops to 3rd on 27th-28th
    15th __ 1 __ 72 knots __ dacogawa

    17th __ 1 __ 58 knots __ JCXBXC

    19th __ 1 __ 60 knots __ Dasa29

    20th __ 1 __ 56 knots __ Rameire

    21st __ 1 __ 64 knots __ Joe Public (actual was 41) -- 5th highest event so far

    22nd __ 1 __ 63 knots __ DOCARCH

    23rd __

    24th __ 1 __ 65 knots __ Tae laidir

    25th __ 1 __ 65 knots __ John mac

    26th __

    27th __ 2 __ 65 (rikand) and 72 (waterways) knots (preliminary -- max gust 57 knots) -- 2nd at the time

    28th __ max gust 66 knots, moves 27th-28th event into 1st place

    29th __ 2 __ 61 (kindred spirit) and 70 (M.T. Cranium) knots (actual max gust 49 knots)

    30th __ 2 __ 60 (mickger844posts) and 75 (Pauldry) knots (actual max gust 50 knots)

    _______________________________________________________

    * The six who share forecasts on the 3rd are (from low to high forecast)

    sunflower3 (52), Adam240610 (54), 200motels (56), MrSkinner (59), Jpmarn (60), sdanseo (61)
    __________________________________________________________________________

    Well done to rikand who will get a superbonus of 2 points as he is closest to the pin on both date and wind speed (unless we get a higher gust on 29th, seems unlikely, then I might luck out). Bsal may get one superbonus point if they revise the 66 to 67 (he's at 68 knots and with the second highest timing points).

    (edit -- after I submitted this, met.ie changed their minds about Sherkin reaching 66 and the max gust was reported at 62 ... that would give kindred spirit the superbonus ... the Monthly Summary will be the ultimate decider on this).

    Will probably spread the timing points fairly wide from each qualifier, as the event on the 3rd only dropped out of contention right at the end, think everyone will get one point at least, forecasts for the 7th, 25th and 30th will get two points depending on how strong wind gusts are on 29th and 30th could increase to three, and forecasts for 27th and 29th will get three points.

    *corrected and edited in thanks to moderator ...

    Scores if 62 knots is correct for maximum gust:


    7 - DOCARCH (63), kindred spirit (61), sdanseo (61)

    6 - Artane2002, JPmarn, mickger844posts, dasa29 (all 60), Joe Public (64)

    5 - Rikand, tae laidir, John mac (each 65), MrSkinner (59)

    4 - JCXBXC (58), Bsal (68), 200motels and Rameire (56)

    3 - MTC (70), Adam240610 (54), dacogawa, waterways (72)

    2 - sunflower3, sryanbruen (52)

    1 - BLIZZARD7 (73), Pauldry (75)



    _____________________________________

    (for max 66 knots, it changes to this ...)

    7 - Rikand, tae laidir, John mac (each 65)

    6 - Bsal (68), Joe Public (64), DOCARCH (63)

    5 - MTC (70), kindred spirit (61), sdanseo (61)

    4 - Artane2002, JPmarn, mickger844posts, dasa29 (all 60) and dacogawa, waterways (72)

    3 - MrSkinner (59), BLIZZARD7 (73)

    2 - JCXBXC (58), Pauldry (75), 200motels and Rameire (56)

    1 - Adam240610 (54), sunflower3, sryanbruen (52)



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,867 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Met Eireann has Sherkin at 61knots yesterday and Roches 62knots with Casement


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Yes, I just noticed that and reported in the storm thread as follows ...

    Some confusion now about strongest gust yesterday, in the "yesterday's weather" section of the website Sherkin Island shows 61 knots rather than 66 as earlier reported, leaving Casement and Roches' Point tied at 62 knots but in the hourly graphs those two peak at 115 km/hr while Sherkin peaks at 122 (supporting the 66 knot value). Not sure if this is quality control or oversight.

    Will have to see what is said in the Monthly Summary, but either the hourly value in the graph is wrong, or the stated daily max is wrong.

    Meanwhile, here's the report after four weeks.

    The IMT climbed all the way back to 7.9 (7.86) after yesterday's very mild weather, the MAX was under some threat but remains 16.3 while the MIN will clearly be staying at --5.0. The IMT will likely finish on 7.8 losing a bit (might be as little a drop as 7.84).

    PRC is now 130% of normal with this past week showing an average of 118% of normal. This will remain close to 130% at the end.

    SUN has dropped a little to 104.5% with this past week rather cloudy (85% from 510/600) except at Belmullet. This will likely finish just about 105%.


    So, I may have to revise the scoring on the wind gusts (the timing part remains okay in the earlier report) if the MS does not pick up the higher value for Sherkin. On 62 knots, the closest forecasts are kindred spirit and sdanseo (61) and DOCARCH (63).

    (added later)

    I just noticed that when I edited the scoring for the two different possible outcomes of maximum gust, I moved some of them around in the wrong groups, but I have arranged with a moderator to post the corrected versions. This would explain any differences you may see between the copy that I left there, and the provisional scoring table below.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Provisional scoring for November 2018

    With the MS scheduled for appearing on the 4th, it's a long wait to confirm certain portions of the scoring where we have fairly good estimates. This table can be edited for any changes found in IMT and PRC on 1st. Sunshine percentage will have to wait for the MS for validation, and there's still some uncertainty about the value for the maximum wind gust on the 28th (the timing points are settled). So there are two columns for scoring the wind gust speed, one based on 62 knots, the other on 66. The total scores show the addition using the 62 knot scores, with totals in brackets for 66. Superbonus points are awarded to whichever column has the 6 or 7 in it. This provisional table will be reworked from final values and reposted on the 4th.



    FORECASTER ________ IMT_MAX_MIN_PRC_SUN__Max gust, date


    Estimated values _____ 7.8_16.3_--5.0_134_105___62 _66 _28th ____ TOTAL


    Kindred_Spirit ________ 21 _ 19 _ 18 _ 12 _ 09 ____ 7 _ 5 _ 3 _ +2 ___ 91 (87)

    Tae laidir ____________ 24 _ 20 _ 14 _ 13 _ 08 ____ 5 _ 7 _ 1 _______ 85 (87)



    Con Sensus __________ 20 _ 19 _ 17 _ 11 _ 08 ____ 7 _ 5 _ 1 _ +1 ____84 (81)


    mickger844posts ______ 24 _ 18 _ 14 _ 11 _ 08 ____ 6 _ 5 _ 2 _______ 83 (82)

    DOCARCH ___________ 22 _ 14 _ 13 _ 14 _ 10 ____ 7 _ 6 _ 1 _______ 81 (80)

    JCXBXC ____ (-2) _____20 _ 17 _ 19 _ 10 _ 09 ____ 4 _ 2 _ 1 __80-2 = 78 (76)

    sryanbruen __________24 _ 17 _ 11 _ 15 _ 07 ____ 2 _ 1 _ 2 _______ 78 (77)

    Artane2002 __________19 _ 16 _ 15 _ 10 _ 08 ____ 6 _ 4 _ 2 _______ 76 (74)

    sunflower3 __________ 20 _ 18 _ 19 _ 07 _ 08 ____ 2 _ 1 _ 1 _______ 75 (74)

    adam240610 ________ 17 _ 18 _ 18 _ 08 _ 10 ____ 3 _ 1 _ 1 _______ 75 (73)

    M.T. Cranium ________16 _ 18 _ 15 _ 10 _ 08 ____ 3 _ 5 _ 3 _______ 73 (75)

    Jpmarn ____________ 13 _ 18 _ 15 _ 13 _ 07 ____ 6 _ 4 _ 1 _______ 73 (71)

    sdanseo ____________15 _ 13 _ 20 _ 09 _ 07 ____ 7 _ 5 _ 1 _______ 72 (70)

    Bsal _______________17 _ 12 _ 20 _ 07 _ 08 ____ 4 _ 6 _ 2 _______ 70 (72)

    Rikand ____ (-2) ____ 22 _ 18 _ 15 _ 01 _ 07 ____ 5 _ 7 _ 3+2_71-2=69 (73)

    Joe Public __________ 16 _ 14 _ 08 _ 15 _ 07 ____ 6 _ 6 _ 1 _______ 67 (67)

    200motels __________25 _ 14 _ 05 _ 11 _ 07 ____ 4 _ 3 _ 1 _______ 67 (66)

    john mac ____ (-6) __ 17 _ 16 _ 17 _ 06 _ 08 ____ 5 _ 7 _ 2_+1_71-6=65 (68)

    waterways __________20 _ 11 _ 09 _ 12 _ 07 ____ 3 _ 4 _ 3 _______ 65 (66)

    Rameire _____ (-2) __ 17 _ 18 _ 12 _ 06 _ 09 ____ 3 _ 2 _ 1 __66-2 = 64 (63)

    Pauldry ____________ 22 _ 05 _ 13 _ 12 _ 09 ____ 1 _ 2 _ 2 _______ 64 (65)


    Normal ____________ 19 _ 08 _ 20 _ 04 _ 09 ____ 3 _ 3 _ 1 _______ 64 (64)



    MrSkinner ___________18 _ 12 _ 15 _ 01 _ 09 ____ 5 _ 3 _ 1 _______ 61 (59)

    Dasa29 _____________17 _ 00 _ 15 _ 05 _ 10 ____ 6 _ 4 _ 1 _______ 54 (52)

    Dacogawa __ (-4) ____ 21 _ 04 _ 06 _ 10 _ 08 ____ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 53-4=49 (50)

    BLIZZARD7 _________ 10 _ 04 _ 00 _ 13 _ 09 ____ 1 _ 3 _ 1 _______ 38 (40)

    _____________________________________________________


    The scoring was quite high for November, lots of good guesses for MAX and MIN helped boost the scores.

    Kindred Spirit in particular has one of the higher scores we've seen over the past many months and years.

    Once we solve the mystery of the maximum gust speed, one of the two columns will be eliminated and one of the two indicated totals will be removed. Also there could be slight changes to the scoring in general, but I think this is pretty close to how it will eventually finish up.

    Won't post the annual summary or autumn (and final) four seasons report until final scores are confirmed. Check back around the 4th.

    The December thread is open, suggest you get in there soon as the deadline just passed.


    (actual forecasts)

    FORECASTER ________ IMT _ MAX _ MIN _ PRC _ SUN __ Max gust (kts), date


    sryanbruen __________ 7.9 _ 16.0 _--4.1 _ 135 _ 090 _____ 52 ______ 7th

    200motels ___________7.8 _ 15.7 _--3.5 _ 121 _ 092 _____ 56 ______ 3rd

    Tae laidir ____________ 7.7 _ 16.3 _--5.6 _ 128 _ 095 _____ 65 _____ 24th

    mickger844posts ______7.7 _ 16.1 _--4.4 _ 121 _ 093 _____ 60 _____ 30th

    Pauldry _____________ 7.5 _ 17.8 _--5.7 _ 125 _ 101 _____ 75 _____ 30th

    DOCARCH ___________ 7.5 _ 16.9 _--4.3 _ 132 _ 103 _____ 63 _____ 22nd

    Rikand ____ (-2) ______7.5 _ 16.5 _--5.5 _ 090 _ 120 _____ 65 _____ 27th

    Dacogawa __ (-4) ____ 7.4 _ 17.9 _--6.4 _ 150 _ 095 _____ 72 _____ 15th

    Kindred_Spirit ________7.4 _ 16.2 _--5.2 _ 125 _ 098 _____ 61 _____ 29th

    sunflower3 __________ 7.3 _ 16.1 _--5.1 _ 111 _ 095 _____ 52 ______ 3rd

    JCXBXC ____ (-2) ____ 7.3 _ 16.0 _--5.1 _ 120 _ 110 _____ 58 _____ 17th

    waterways __________ 7.3 _ 15.4 _--6.1 _ 142 _ 092 _____ 72 _____ 27th


    Con Sensus _________ 7.3 _ 16.2 _--5.3 _ 121 _ 097 _____ 61 _____ 3, 7, 30**

    Normal _____________ 7.2 _ 17.5 _--5.0 _ 100 _ 100 _____ 72 _____ any*


    Artane2002 __________7.2 _ 15.9 _--4.5 _ 120 _ 095 _____ 60 ______ 7th

    MrSkinner ___________ 7.1 _ 17.1 _--5.5 _ 090 _ 100 _____ 59 ______ 3rd

    Rameire _____ (-2) ___ 7.0 _ 16.5 _--5.8 _ 108 _ 098 _____ 56 _____ 20th

    adam240610 _________7.0 _ 16.1 _--5.2 _ 113 _ 105 _____ 54 ______ 3rd

    john mac ____ (-6) ___ 7.0 _ 15.9 _--4.7 _ 107 _ 097 _____ 65 _____ 25th

    Dasa29 _____________ 7.0 _ 14.0 _--5.5 _ 105 _ 105 _____ 60 _____ 19th

    Bsal ________________7.0 _ 15.5 _--5.0 _ 110 _ 097 _____ 68 ______ 7th

    Joe Public ___________ 6.9 _ 16.9 _--6.2 _ 134 _ 089 _____ 64 _____ 21st

    M.T. Cranium ________ 6.9 _ 16.5 _--5.5 _ 120 _ 115 _____ 70 _____ 29th

    sdanseo _____________6.8 _ 17.0 _--5.0 _ 115 _ 088 _____ 61 ______ 3rd

    Jpmarn _____________ 6.6 _ 16.5 _--5.5 _ 140 _ 090 _____ 60 ______ 3rd

    BLIZZARD7 __________ 6.3 _ 14.7 _--7.7 _ 127 _ 110 _____73 _____ 13th


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    IMT as expected slipped back to 7.8 (from 7.84).

    PRC finished on 134% -- the provisional scoring table has been adjusted (a few gained a point, most lost one).

    SUN estimate still acceptable after checking daily sunshine 29th-30th, very similar to average after four weeks.

    Next changes would take place if anything shows up in the MS to confirm either 62 or 66 knots as maximum.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Updated Annual Scoring Summary for 2018 (Jan to Nov)

    The annual scores are now updated using the second of two optional totals from the November provisional scoring. The max wind gust was confirmed to be 66 knots (the second of two scoring columns in the November bonus section leading to the totals in brackets).

    (9/11)
    rank _FORECASTER ______ JAN_FEB_MAR_APR_MAY_JUN_JUL_AUG_SEP_OCT_NOV _ TOTAL <-rank _best 9/11

    01 _ Pauldry_____________ 73 _ 58 _ 89 _ 48 _ 76 _ 59 _ 78 _ 62 _ 66 _ 62 _ 65 __ 736 __ 01 ____ 630

    (02) Con Sensus _________ 73 _ 67 _ 69 _ 51 _ 71 _ 54 _ 84 _ 56 _ 59 _ 64 _ 81 __ 729 __(02)____ 624

    T02_ sryanbruen __________56 _ 71 _ 65 _ 60 _ 74 _ 46 _ 85 _ 65 _ 36 _ 66 _ 77 __ 701 __ 03 ____ 619
    T02_ waterways __________ 81 _ 34 _ 51 _ 73 _ 76 _ 46 _ 83 _ 64 _ 64 _ 61 _ 66 __ 699 __ 04 ____ 619
    04 _ Rikand ______________66 _ 64 _ 62 _ 61 _ 74 _ 65 _ 65 _ 51 _ 59 _ 75 _ 73 __ 715 __ 02 ____ 605

    (05) NormaL _____________75 _ 52 _ 48 _ 71 _ 63 _ 31 _ 59 _ 85 _ 79 _ 56 _ 64 __ 683 __(10)____ 604

    T05_ Rameire ____________ 52 _ 56 _ 67 _ 49 _ 76 _ 44 _ 88 _ 67 _ 67 _ 66 _ 63 __ 695 __ 05 ____ 602
    T05_ DOCARCH ___________63 _ 62 _ 75 _ 61 _ 68 _ 42 _ 69 _ 47 _ 67 _ 57 _ 80 __ 691 __ 06 ____ 602
    07_ JCXBXC ______________34 _ 72 _ 54 _ 43 _ 77 _ 56 _ 78 _ 75 _ 41 _ 68 _ 76 __ 674 __ 10 ____ 599
    08 _ M.T. Cranium _________60 _ 45 _ 52 _ 56 _ 86 _ 49 _ 77 _ 50 _ 75 _ 63 _ 75 __ 688 __ 08 ____ 594
    09 _ Dacogawa ___________ 71 _ 67 _ 70 _ 67 _ 63 _ 52 _ 71 _ 50 _ 65 _ 63 _ 50 __ 689 __ 07 ____ 592
    10 _ Jpmarn _____________ 71 _ 61 _ 49 _ 57 _ 68 _ 60 _ 81 _ 51 _ 50 _ 67 _ 71 __ 686 __ 09 ____ 587

    11 _ Joe Public ___________ 35 _ 62 _ 48 _ 81 _ 61 _ 66 _ 63 _ 56 _ 67 _ 62 _ 67 __ 668 __ 11 ____ 585
    12 _ Kindred Spirit ________ 59 _ 56 _ 55 _ 28 _ 66 _ 57 _ 77 _ 48 _ 47 _ 79 _ 87 __ 659 __ 12 ____ 584
    13 _ Tae laidir ____________78 _ 53 _ 63 _ 47 _ 61 _ 52 _ 67 _ 69 _ --- _ 53 _ 87 __ 630 __ 16 ____ 578
    14 _ mickger844posts ______75 _ 77 _ 69 _ 42 _ 54 _ 44 _ 62 _ 49 _ 50 _ 53 _ 82 __ 654 __ 13t____ 571
    15 _ MrSkinner ___________ 73 _ 64 _ 72 _ 42 _ 69 _ 36 _ 68 _ 66 _ 41 _ 54 _ 59 __ 644 __ 15 ____ 567
    16 _ BLIZZARD7 __________ 27 _ 73 _ 46 _ 70 _ 92 _ 52 _ 48 _ 46 _ 81 _ 55 _ 40 __ 628 __ 17 ____ 565
    17 _ sunflower3 ___________68 _ 56 _ 63 _ 58 _ 57 _ 41 _ 65 _ 52 _ 64 _ 56 _ 74 __ 654 __ 13t____ 561
    18 _ sdanseo _____________45 _ 61 _ 57 _ 52 _ 57 _ 64 _ 65 _ --- _ 57 _ 58 _ 70 __ 586 __ 21 ____ 541
    19 _ john mac ____________48 _ 58 _ 58 _ 42 _ 63 _ 39 _ 67 _ 72 _ 51 _ 46 _ 68 __ 612 __ 18 ____ 531
    20 _ 200motels ___________36 _ 65 _ 47 _ 49 _ 85 _ 32 _ 62 _ 37 _ 55 _ 64 _ 66 __ 598 __ 19 ____ 530
    21 _ Bsal ________________63 _ 49 _ 71 _ 38 _ 56 _ 34 _ 71 _ 44 _ 50 _ 46 _ 72 __ 594 __ 20 ____ 522
    22 _ dasa29 _____________ 69 _ 40 _ 83 _ 43 _ 54 _ 35 _ 57 _ 41 _ 67 _ 41 _ 52 __ 582 __ 22 ____ 507

    23 _ Adam240610 ________ --- _ --- _ 56 _ --- _ ---_ --- _ 64 _ 72 _ 51 _ 69 _ 73 __ 385
    24 _ Artane2002 __________--- _ --- _ ---_ 59 _ 57 _ 47 _ --- _ --- _ 50 _ 50 _ 74 __ 337
    25 _ Lumi _______________ 54 _ 54 _ 62 _ --- _ 77 _ 55 _ --- _--- _ --- _ --- _ --- __ 302
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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    So I had a chance to check the Monthly Summary, all scoring was confirmed but the wind gust at Sherkin was stated to be 66 knots (as we had originally thought) which means the November provisional scoring becomes the second option (read scores under 66 kts and totals in brackets, some superbonus points either now apply (Rikand for example) or are dropped (kindred spirit). This has changed one or two ranks in the annual contest and that post has been edited.

    So we can finally say congrats to both Kindred Spirit and Tae laidir who tied for top spot in November on these results (87 points).

    Pauldry remains in first place overall, with a slight lead on Con sensus (6 points) and sryanbruen is tied with waterways in second place (in the best 9 of 11 scoring) just eleven points back of Pauldry, so it will all come down to the December forecast now, with Rikand having an outside chance of catching the leader. I may post a table over in December showing how many points you gain on the leaders if your forecast scores a perfect 103 (there's a superbonus with the snow question).

    The next item to consider is the Four Seasons contest within a contest, and I will do that later today, probably not until evening. I have to do the autumn portion now and add those points to whatever people had back in August after the summer portion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,316 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Four Seasons 2017-18 contest update

    Final Scoring Summary


    Points for autumn total score (Sep, Oct, Nov)

    -- ties are otherwise acceptable but for top score, a new rule, a tie there is broken by high score in a month, and second place gets 8.

    FORECASTER __ Total score __ Points

    Kindred Spirit ____213 _______ 10 (tie broken by higher monthly score 87)
    M.T. Cranium ____213 ________ 8 (highest score 75 -- 2nd)
    rikand _________ 207 ________ 6
    DOCARCH ______ 204 ________ 5

    __ Con Sensus __ 204 ________ (5)

    __ NormaL _____ 199 ________ (4)

    Rameire ________196 ________ 4
    Joe Public _______196 ________ 3
    sunflower3 ______194 ________ 2
    Pauldry ________ 193 ________ 1
    Adam240610 ____193 ________ 1
    waterways ______191 ________ 1
    JPmarn ________ 188 ________ --
    JCX BXC _______ 185 ________ --
    mickger844posts _185 ________ --
    sdanseo ________185 ________ --
    200motels ______ 185 ________ --
    sryanbruen _____ 179 ________ --
    dacogawa ______ 178 ________ --
    BLIZZARD7 _____ 176 ________ --
    Artane2002 _____ 174 ________ --
    Bsal ___________ 168 ________ --
    john mac _______ 165 ________ --
    dasa29 _________160 ________ --
    MrSkinner ______ 154 ________ --
    tae laidir _______ 140 (2 mo) __ --




    (winter, spring and summer seasons points totals)

    FORECASTER _________ Winter __ Spring ___ Summer ___ Autumn ____ TOTAL to date

    Pauldry _______________ 6 ________10 _______ 7 _______ 1 ________ 24

    ___ Con Sensus_________4 ________ 1 _______ 4 ________ 5 ________14

    JPmarn ______________ 10 ________ -- _______ 3 _______ -- ________ 13
    rameire _______________-- ________ 1 ________7 ________ 4 _______ 12
    Kindred Spirit __________ 1 ________ -- _______ 1 ________10 _______12
    DOCARCH _____________ -- ________6 _______ -- ________ 5 _______ 11

    ___ NormaL____________7 ________ -- _______ -- ________ 4 _______ 11

    rikand ________________1 ________ 2 ________ 1 ________ 6 _______ 10
    JCX BXC ______________ -- ________ -- ______ 10 _______ -- _______ 10
    Waterways ____________ -- ________ 5 _______ 4 ________1 ________10
    Tae laidir ______________7 ________ -- _______ 2 ________-- ________9
    M.T. Cranium __________ -- ________ 1 _______ -- ________8 ________9
    Dacogawa _____________ 5 ________ 3 _______ -- ________ -- _______8
    sryanbruen ____________-- ________ 4 ________ 4 ________-- _______8
    BLIZZARD7 ____________-- ________ 7 _______ -- ________ -- _______7
    Joe Public _____________ -- ________ 1 _______ 1 ________ 3 _______ 5
    mickger844posts _______ 4 ________ -- _______ -- ________ -- _______4
    sunflower3 ____________ 2 ________ -- _______ -- ________ 2 _______ 4
    MrSkinner _____________3 ________ -- _______ -- ________ -- _______3
    John mac _____________ 1 ________ -- _______ -- ________ -- _______1
    Adam240610 __________ -- _______ -- ________-- ________ 1 _______ 1

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    So it's congratulations to Pauldry, our Four Seasons champ, he had the only four seasons score higher than Con Sensus (2nd), with Jpmarn retaining second place from summer despite a shutout in autumn. Third place goes to rameire and kindred spirit (tied).

    The higher points for autumn all seemed to go to forecasters in the middle of the pack when summer finished, which is why the scoring race has become quite a logjam especially just behind the leaders.

    The 2018-19 Four Seasons contest begins with December so bazlers, if you read this, you're in the hunt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,867 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Lucky I got a head start

    Autumns are difficultly volatile to predict.:)


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