Garda shoots dog in Longford

Stephen Gawking · 04-12-2018 1:23am #1

What's this all about? I've seen the video that the woman took of the incident but it's not very clear. Not sure if I can post the video here so I'll erron the side of caution & not post it. Was the garda justified? He looks like he was alone or was it a negligent discharge? Hard to say either way.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/investigation-underway-after-dog-shot-dead-in-longford-man-injured-in-incident-889607.html

Buford T Justice · 04-12-2018 1:40am

Shur when has the truth ever mattered in these cases? Trial and conviction by social media as usual.

emptyhouse2222 · 04-12-2018 1:41am

generic traveller-bashing post

Fordcspri23 · 04-12-2018 1:42am

Buford T Justice wrote: »

Shur when has the truth ever mattered in these cases? Trial and conviction by social media as usual.

You’re the cool Buford.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 04-12-2018 2:26am

Whatever about him shooting the mans foot but only a physcopath would murder a dog

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 04-12-2018 2:35am

Man shot, dog killed, thread in AH. Probably an exhilarating day by Longford standards.

Raheem Euro · 04-12-2018 2:51am

Longford cops aren't taking any shlt. Shoot yo in the foot motherfcuker.

"Things are quiet around here. And we want to keep it that way"

The Crowman · 04-12-2018 2:58am

Pretty hard to tell whats going on but it looks like the dog might have gone for the cop, you can see that something is pulling on his tie and he shoots downwards at whatever is in front of him. You can't actually see the dog at any point.

tuxy · 04-12-2018 3:03am

Stephen Gawking wrote: »

Not sure if I can post the video here so I'll erron the side of caution & not post it.

I'm long over due a holiday from after hours

That said I don't think it breaks the rules.

tuxy · 04-12-2018 3:05am

The Crowman wrote: »

Pretty hard to tell whats going on but it looks like the dog might have gone for the cop, you can see that something is pulling on his tie and he shoots downwards at whatever is in front of him. You can't actually see the dog at any point.

I believe there was no dog involved in the video.
The dog had already been killed earlier in the incident before the recording.

delly · 04-12-2018 3:10am

Even with the limited view, you can get an idea of what went on. Garda involved in standoff, somebody or something gets a hold of Garda and pulls on his tie, Garda shoots dog to release.

If Garda felt he was in fear for his life, then it should be justified, but whatever happens he will be sandbagged for the rest of his career for taking the shot. In the meantime a load of people will have successful compo claims.

/edit, based on the above, I may be wrong then.

tuxy · 04-12-2018 3:15am

I could be wrong too. I just can't see or hear a dog at any point.

Raheem Euro · 04-12-2018 3:19am

Perhaps the traveller while he strsngled the cop with one hand gripping the tie - he grabbed for the gun or ended up grabbing the trigger finger with his other hand. Firing the gun In an ironic twist of faith injuring himself.

That will be the official version. Either that or a warning shot that ricochet'd.

tuxy · 04-12-2018 3:22am

The garda says the line "I'll put a bullet in him" so they will have to be a bit more creative than that.

endacl · 04-12-2018 3:25am

Anybody get a clear read of the lettering on the van? Just in case I ever want fencing done I want to be sure I don’t accidentally call them.

kneemos · 04-12-2018 3:29am

Grabbing his tie is hardly being attacked. Sounded like yer man was trying to pull him off in fairness.

tuxy · 04-12-2018 3:30am

endacl wrote: »

Anybody get a clear read of the lettering on the van? Just in case I ever want fencing done I want to be sure I don’t accidentally call them.

Casey fencing? You just have to check if it's a registered business or a fake company name on the van.

The Crowman · 04-12-2018 3:32am

tuxy wrote: »

Casey fencing? You just have to check if it's a registered business or a fake company name on the van.

Foxy haired guy seemed to be trying to attack the van driver.

tuxy · 04-12-2018 3:35am

You're right, the travellers do not own the van.

The van had been left with them for repair and it's claimed the detective is helping him get his van back after a dispute over the repair bill.

tuxy · 04-12-2018 5:40am

Ok, dog is there for sure. The detective said "get it to let go of me" when his tie was being held.
I imagine the dog was produced to intimidate the detective and that's why the gun was drawn. The traveller seemed to lose control of the dog,
Fairly unprofessional by the detective, no garda should take on a situation like this alone but it was self defence so I imagine the discharge of the weapon will be deemed legitimate.

namloc1980 · 04-12-2018 7:20am

Interesting that they all seemed to be on first name terms with each other, including the Garda.

tuxy · 04-12-2018 7:26am

In a city it would be but It's not that unusual in smaller communities. I've seen a few disputes on the streets in a small town between Garda and Travellers both using first names. I've even been in a station while a traveller was shouting from one of the cells asking to be let out, using the first name of the garda

suicide_circus · 04-12-2018 7:53am

grab a man's tie when he's holding a gun you deserve a bullet in the foot.

"Ah me foot, Tom!"

ToddyDoody · 04-12-2018 7:54am

'Let's make a Longford everyone can be proud of'

Greybottle · 04-12-2018 9:27am

Ongoing history in that area.
https://m.herald.ie/news/brutal-traveller-gang-are-suspects-for-bomb-left-at-gardas-home-34156792.html

The area and parts of north Roscommon had a high vote for Casey in the election. There's a reason behind it. Join the dots.

Captain Obvious · 04-12-2018 9:31am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COr0k0fFnAg

PSA: Turn your volume down.

No idea what it's all over but the man is obviously trying to attack the van driver and the Garda is trying to stop it. When he gets the van door closed you can hear the man say "watch out watch out" This is apparently because a German Sheppard has arrived. We then see the Garda being pulled down by his tie. I think the dog has a hold of it. He warns the man twice to get the dog off him and then shoots the dog. The bullet appear to have gone through the dog and hit the man or hit the ground and ricocheted into the man.