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Third world water for Dublin City

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  • #32
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,155 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    ‘ NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY’ was the battle cry of the morons who thought they should get a precious resource sent to them and disposed of for nothing.


    And this is the key problem.

    Irish Water was designed to be a commercial semi-State body that could fund itself through borrowings. That required water charges to give it independent funding. Without this arrangement, funding for improving the infrastructure would not be available and inevitably there would be largescale problems with the Dublin water supply.

    In the later years of the last decade, this was understood and supported by all of the main parties (excepting whatever PBP were then called). One by one, starting with Sinn Fein, then Fianna Fail, Labour, and eventually Fine Gael, this policy and position was abandoned (the Greens remain somewhat ambivalent) and we are where we are today.


  • #33
    Hello 2D Person Below
    Registered Users Posts: 13,755 ✭✭✭✭Hello 2D Person Below


    Uncle Charlie wrote: »
    Nobody is talking about the pressure Mass Immigration is putting on our water system.

    You're talking about it.


  • #34
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Marcos wrote: »
    The EPA issued a report on the amount of water being used after the Ringsend spillage in July.


    Yeah all they do is issue reports. At this stage they should be actually doing something more threatening than sending more inspectors in. There are massive EU fines down the road. 9 billion litres of untreated waste water have been discharged into the Liffey Estuary system since 2015, including;
    • 2.8 billion litres discharged on 30 occasions in 2015
    • 3.1 billion litres discharged on 35 occasions in 2016
    • 1.2 billion litres discharged on 14 occasions in 2017
    • 2 billion litres discharged on 18 occasions in 2018
    • 320 million litres discharged on seven occasions in 2019
    Heads don't seem to roll with IW.


    Creaking infrastructure ? Yeah like every other fcuking service in this country over the last 8/9 years. Why is that ?


  • #35
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Between housing, healthcare, crazy Direct Provision policies, public transport and now drinking water the country is going down a very precarious road.

    There has been gross mismanagement of our tax take. Almost criminal tbh.


  • #36
    BDI
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    This isn’t a tax issue. When Irish water was started it took all the staff the other semi states didn’t want. These people have a license to press whatever buttons they want on whatever day they want to turn up whilst shouting

    “Not my fault, the system is creaking we need a tax but the great unwashed won’t pay it.

    And near 50 per cent of people here will agree.


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  • #37
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    ‘ NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY’ was the battle cry of the morons who thought they should get a precious resource sent to them and disposed of for nothing.

    It actually stinks of another attempt at implementing water charges tbh.

    Water charges that were covered in our bloody road tax.


  • #38
    Liberta Per Gli Ultra
    Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Liberta Per Gli Ultra


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Irish Water was designed to be a commercial semi-State body that could fund itself through borrowings.

    That's a nice little earner for the lenders. Money for no work.
    That required water charges to give it independent funding.

    The public forced to hand over money to a commercial entity. No wonder the private sector is so "efficient", efficient like the mafia.


  • #39
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    ‘ NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY’ was the battle cry of the morons who thought they should get a precious resource sent to them and disposed of for nothing.

    I supported water charges initially , then I realized in this kip; That with all the exceptions. It will only be the non wasters footing the bill , far better that it’s taken from general taxation!


  • #40
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Between housing, healthcare, crazy Direct Provision policies, public transport and now drinking water the country is going down a very precarious road.

    There has been gross mismanagement of our tax take. Almost criminal tbh.

    The immigration comment is a troll. Let me move onto a serious issue though. An obscene welfare state that sends billions of hard working taxpayers money into bookies , pubs , takeaways, expensive phone and tv packages. Nike’s newest straight out of Bangladesh. The busiest dominoes and KrispyKreme branches in the world , in areas at the centre of can’t pay , won’t pay. Funny what they can and can’t afford from the free money they gifted every week !

    Meanwhile in the same country 3rd works infrastructure, many hard working can’t afford homes, outrageous marginal tax rate. We hear about “ de bank bailout “ one off pocket money compared to the ever living welfare blackhole!

    Areas starved of funding , but keep the welfare bandwagon going at all costs ! To hell with the consequences!


  • #41
    sdanseo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,233 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    People were complaining about this all day in work and I made the comment if people had just paid the few quid a month rather than chaining themselves to a lampost on O'Connell Street a couple of years back, there would be €1.5bn more funding available to upgrade the water supply.

    Unsurprisingly, it was not a popular opinion.

    We pay too much in tax so they won't pay, was the argument - water is a divine right. But these same people who won't pay are the scroungers who demand everything for free.
    The majority would have grumbled and put their hands reluctantly into their pockets.

    That of course isn't fair either, why should the rest of us carry the scumbags - but for the sake of a few euro it would have just been easier.

    We need a tax regime that penalises benefit culture. And we need it before we run out of money propping up wasters.


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  • #42
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,188 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    There's a thread in the Dublin City forum already discussing the water issue


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