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Bond 23 - "Skyfall" *spoilers from post 595*

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  • #302
    Paudie223
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You referring to Ola Rapace ,best known for being in the Wallander series? I assumed that the poster was referring to Javia Bardem's character in the film who seems to be the main villain.

    Yes I was referring to Rapace. But Bardem looks like a Miami vice villain.


  • #303
    OU812
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭OU812


    Deleted User wrote: »
    He looks quite like Taylor Negron and reminded me a lot of his character in The Last Boy Scout.

    That's the chap !


  • #304
    Sivousplait
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Sivousplait


    Taylor Negron, what a hero!

    I'm really looking forward to this Bond.


  • #305
    Paudie223
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    Sivousplait wrote: »
    Taylor Negron, what a hero!

    I'm really looking forward to this Bond.

    Reviews are in, overwhelmingly positive.

    http://m.ie.ign.com/articles/2012/10/13/skyfall-review


  • #306
    pah
    Registered Users Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭pah


    Getting excited about this!

    Good review, no spoilers really.


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  • #307
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Great to hear. i read in one review today that Daniel Craig basically owns the part now after his performance and should be allowed to carry on as long as he wants after his latest performance in Skyfall. Delighted for him personally and the franchise after a superb debut in Casino royale and a great but perhaps misunderstood performance in quantum that he may have finally overcome the remaining minority of doubters.

    also i heard Javier Bardem is awesome in it aswell


  • #308
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users Posts: 14,520 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    ricero wrote: »
    Great to hear. i read in one review today that Daniel Craig basically owns the part now after his performance and should be allowed to carry on as long as he wants after his latest performance in Skyfall. Delighted for him personally and the franchise after a superb debut in Casino royale and a great but perhaps misunderstood performance in quantum that he may have finally overcome the remaining minority of doubters.

    also i heard Javier Bardem is awesome in it aswell

    I dont want to rain on the parade but I dont think Craig will ever own the part .
    From what I saw in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace he isnt James Bond.
    I know he can act ,he has shown that in the past ,he just seems to be trying too hard as Bond ,it seems forced and unnatural.
    Hopefully he has got the balance between brute and charm right in this film ,he badly needs to learn how to deliver a one liner .

    From the early reviews ,the film looks good and the makers have got the balance between the classic Bond and the newer Bond better than in the last few films.
    The pacing is much better too with an actual plot instead of just a sequence of action scenes like in Qos.

    I sat down a few nights this week and was watching the new Bond channel on Sky Movies and I found myself glued to the screen.I watched Licence to Kill,The Spy who Loved Me,For Your Eyes Only,A View to a Kill and Goldfinger,thoroughly enjoyed them all and enjoyed the charm so badly missing from the last 2 Bond movies.


  • #309
    OU812
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭OU812


    Have they wrapped up everything from Casino Royale & QoS ? I thought they were planned as part of a trilogy ?


  • #310
    Sad Professor
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,668 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    OU812 wrote: »
    Have they wrapped up everything from Casino Royale & QoS ? I thought they were planned as part of a trilogy ?

    Pretty sure this is a standalone film. Any plans for a trilogy or a continuation of the Quantum storyline were probably abandoned after QoS.


  • #311
    Paudie223
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    I dont want to rain on the parade but I dont think Craig will ever own the part .
    From what I saw in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace he isnt James Bond.
    I know he can act ,he has shown that in the past ,he just seems to be trying too hard as Bond ,it seems forced and unnatural.
    Hopefully he has got the balance between brute and charm right in this film ,he badly needs to learn how to deliver a one liner .

    From the early reviews ,the film looks good and the makers have got the balance between the classic Bond and the newer Bond better than in the last few films.
    The pacing is much better too with an actual plot instead of just a sequence of action scenes like in Qos.

    I sat down a few nights this week and was watching the new Bond channel on Sky Movies and I found myself glued to the screen.I watched Licence to Kill,The Spy who Loved Me,For Your Eyes Only,A View to a Kill and Goldfinger,thoroughly enjoyed them all and enjoyed the charm so badly missing from the last 2 Bond movies.

    I am a Craig fan and I thought he was great as Bond in CR and QOS. Very similar to Bond of the books. The reviews that I have been reading for Skyfall praise his performance. I would wait and see how he does in Skyfall and then maybe see what you think.


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  • #312
    nipps
    Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭nipps


    i saw that a few papers were saying that heineken bought rights and that bond is drinking heineken instead of the classic dry martini in the new film. i hope this isnt true...


  • #313
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    nipps wrote: »
    i saw that a few papers were saying that heineken bought rights and that bond is drinking heineken instead of the classic dry martini in the new film. i hope this isnt true...

    Well Craig stars in a bond-related advert for the beer, and given how much Bond films love to shill for companies, I wouldn't be surprised.


  • #314
    Paudie223
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Paudie223


    Heineken makes two appearances in the film apparently. Bond does order the martini in Skyfall also from what I am told. I also read that Heineken paid 14 million for the product placement....easy money.


  • #315
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users Posts: 14,520 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Paudie223 wrote: »
    Heineken makes two appearances in the film apparently. Bond does order the martini in Skyfall also from what I am told. I also read that Heineken paid 14 million for the product placement....easy money.
    It was 35m euro they paid ,huge money .
    With all the other product tie ins I'd say they paid for most of the film.
    The budget is listed as $200m on IMDB but I dont think its anywhere near that high as the initial budget was drastically cut.
    Turkey is the sole foreign location and the rest of the film was shot in the UK with Bognor Regis doubling for foreign beaches .

    Btw happy birthday Roger Moore ,who was 85 yesterday .


  • #316
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Hope Bond has a beer gut for the sake of realism. :P


  • #317
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,969 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Sivousplait wrote: »
    Absolutely brilliant Bond song. Have listened to it about 5 times today, then proceeded to listen to all the Bond themes again on youtube....then listened to the Living Daylights OST while going to the park and now watching Bond documentary's on youtube. My bond day has been a success. If UTV aren't going to show a Bond movie, I'll make my own night of it!

    I thought it was a bit meh to be honest.


  • #318
    Dermighty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Boo Radley wrote: »
    International Trailer:

    Looks as bollocks as the last one tbh.


  • #319
    Joekers
    Registered Users Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Joekers


    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=-zdvQQnDYio Love this one


  • #320
    sink
    Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    Just saw it at an advanced screening in the Savoy and I thought it was pretty good, up the with the best Bond films. Lots of little throwbacks and references to its predecessors all done with good humor, but a serious tone overall. Javier Bardem is the best bond villain in a long while and Judy Dench was excellent.


  • #321
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Watched CR and QoS on Sky the other night in anticaption for Skyfall.

    QoS, for me improved since I last remember watching it.


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  • #322
    krudler
    Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    Watched CR and QoS on Sky the other night in anticaption for Skyfall.

    QoS, for me improved since I last remember watching it.

    I like parts of QoS, the oening 20 minutes are great, the opera scene is excellent, it just suffers from a poor villain, pity they've supposedly abandoned the Quantum storyline as it wasnt fully resolved in QoS. Its the first proper Bond sequel as well isnt it? I liked how it carries on literally straight after CR.


  • #323
    senordingdong
    Registered Users Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    sink wrote: »
    Lots of little throwbacks and references to its predecessors all done with good humor, but a serious tone overall.
    Right, this is really bugging me.

    Why do these new Bonds have to be throwing nods and winks to previous episodes? I find it really detracts from my enjoyment, and found that while CR had some necessity toward establishing a new continuity, my enjoyment of Qos was seriously strained having to throw my eyes to heaven at every single nod.


  • #324
    Otacon
    Registered Users Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    senordingdong wrote: »
    Right, this is really bugging me.

    Why do these new Bonds have to be throwing nods and winks to previous episodes? I find it really detracts from my enjoyment, and found that while CR had some necessity toward establishing a new continuity, my enjoyment of Qos was seriously strained having to throw my eyes to heaven at every single nod.

    But how will you know it's a Bond movie if he doesn't order a certain drink and introduce himself in a certain way?

    :pac:

    Honestly I agree with you. These nods can take you straight out of the movie if they are relentlessly thrown in your face.

    However, there are times when these nods can be useful. For example, at the end of Casino Royale, when we hear 'Bond... James Bond', it serves to illustrate that he is now the character we have known before, his growth is complete... or it was until QoS. :mad:


  • #325
    krudler
    Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    senordingdong wrote: »
    Right, this is really bugging me.

    Why do these new Bonds have to be throwing nods and winks to previous episodes? I find it really detracts from my enjoyment, and found that while CR had some necessity toward establishing a new continuity, my enjoyment of Qos was seriously strained having to throw my eyes to heaven at every single nod.

    They can have the Bond staples in there without them seeming forced, Casino Royale did it well, it seemed more tacked on in QoS. If you keep throwing in nudge nudge gags refering to the other movies its descending into parody again like Die Another Day, which had tons of them. I watched Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies recently, TND is better than I remember it, just the villain is piss poor, but it has some great setpieces, the bike chase over the buildings being a standout.


  • #326
    senordingdong
    Registered Users Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Otacon wrote: »
    But how will you know it's a Bond movie if he doesn't order a certain drink and introduce himself in a certain way?

    :pac:

    Honestly I agree with you. These nods can take you straight out of the movie if they are relentlessly thrown in your face.

    However, there are times when these nods can be useful. For example, at the end of Casino Royale, when we hear 'Bond... James Bond', it serves to illustrate that he is now the character we have known before, his growth is complete... or it was until QoS. :mad:

    'Bond...James Bond', I can accept. I even think they did a brilliant job of it in CR.
    But QoS...the women and the oil......


  • #327
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,131 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    krudler wrote: »
    They can have the Bond staples in there without them seeming forced, Casino Royale did it well, it seemed more tacked on in QoS. If you keep throwing in nudge nudge gags refering to the other movies its descending into parody again like Die Another Day, which had tons of them. I watched Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies recently, TND is better than I remember it, just the villain is piss poor, but it has some great setpieces, the bike chase over the buildings being a standout.

    Michelle Yeoh is the best Bond Girl ever, her presence lifted that whole movie for me. It's a shame Brosnan's movies never really cut the mustard after Goldeneye, which is still one of my favourite Bond movies.

    Regards the nudge nudge wink wink, I think it's a by-product of all the remakes/reboots doing the rounds. The makers seem more pre-occupied with referencing/re-cycling the originals rather than having the films be their own thing. I wouldn't say QoS(though my memory is fairly fuzzy on that one) or CR were guilty of that though, Star Trek was another one that managed it well too I thought, the likes of Total Recall made a hash of it though.


  • #328
    senordingdong
    Registered Users Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Michelle Yeoh is the best Bond Girl ever, her presence lifted that whole movie for me. It's a shame Brosnan's movies never really cut the mustard after Goldeneye, which is still one of my favourite Bond movies.

    Regards the nudge nudge wink wink, I think it's a by-product of all the remakes/reboots doing the rounds. The makers seem more pre-occupied with referencing/re-cycling the originals rather than having the films be their own thing. I wouldn't say QoS(though my memory is fairly fuzzy on that one) or CR were guilty of that though, Star Trek was another one that managed it well too I thought, the likes of Total Recall made a hash of it though.

    Have to disagree. Star Trek was one of the worst offenders of this decade.


  • #329
    greecy_joe
    Site Banned Posts: 69 ✭✭greecy_joe


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    Watched CR and QoS on Sky the other night in anticaption for Skyfall.

    QoS, for me improved since I last remember watching it.

    i thought the same , the villian was still the worst bond has ever faced however , a little french squirt


  • #330
    greecy_joe
    Site Banned Posts: 69 ✭✭greecy_joe


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Michelle Yeoh is the best Bond Girl ever, her presence lifted that whole movie for me. It's a shame Brosnan's movies never really cut the mustard after Goldeneye, which is still one of my favourite Bond movies.

    Regards the nudge nudge wink wink, I think it's a by-product of all the remakes/reboots doing the rounds. The makers seem more pre-occupied with referencing/re-cycling the originals rather than having the films be their own thing. I wouldn't say QoS(though my memory is fairly fuzzy on that one) or CR were guilty of that though, Star Trek was another one that managed it well too I thought, the likes of Total Recall made a hash of it though.

    best bond girl ever , get off the stage , she,s not even in the top fifteen for my money , she was the best of brosnans bond girls , not that that would be hard


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  • #331
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I believe who you think to be the best Bond girl depends on what Bond films you saw as a teenager - that'll tend to colour your opinion a little ;)


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