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Women in Ireland working for free from today until 31 December

  • 11-11-2019 2:55pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/1111/1089986-women-working-for-free/
    Irish women are "working for free" for the rest of the year, according to Dress for Success Dublin (DfSD), the charity behind the #WorkEqual campaign.

    According to DfSD, today marks the date which women effectively stop earning, relative to men, because of the gender pay gap.

    This is disgraceful! When are the patriarchy going to stop the ridiculous gender stereotyping of women and pay them the same as men!! :mad:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,466 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    New Years Day?


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭pawdee


    Nice one! I need someone to do a bit of cleaning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Lol that's a mythical anylayesed spectrum of gender proportional bull****...

    There they go turning people against each other, the tide's turning and sadly it's forgotten to take these SJW's and victim's out with it....

    Absolute bleached whales the lot of em

    Red herrings


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How long are they gonna beat this drum before climbing down?

    It’s a myth.

    If women worked for 70% of what men do (or whatever they claim) and women are just as capable as men (they are), then why don’t greedy companies who care about nothing but their bottom line not just hire exclusively women?

    If the accountants in most companies could slash their wage costs by 30% at a stroke they’d bite your hand off.

    Presumably the reason that doesn’t happen is also a patriarchal conspiracy :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    How long are they gonna beat this drum before climbing down?

    It’s a myth.

    If women worked for 70% of what men do (or whatever they claim) and women are just as capable as men (they are), then why don’t greedy companies who care about nothing but their bottom line not just hire exclusively women?

    If the accountants in most companies could slash their wage costs by 30% at a stroke they’d bite your hand off.

    Presumably the reason that doesn’t happen is also a patriarchal conspiracy :rolleyes:

    Women also do more housework - which is UNPAID!
    88.7% of women cook and / or do housework every day, compared with just 48% of men.

    Tell me Batrathox... how much housework do YOU do??

    We as a society need to start valuing women's contributions more. If patriarchal capitalist system is broken then government need to step in and pay a subsidy to women to make up the gap a finally recognize the work they do.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Women also do more housework - which is UNPAID!



    Tell me Batrathox... how much housework do YOU do??

    We as a society need to start valuing women's contributions more. If patriarchal capitalist system is broken then government need to step in and pay a subsidy to women to make up the gap a finally recognize the work they do.

    So you're saying that what comes naturally is worthy of an allowance.

    Oh my gosh...paid for looking after your own kid's and keeping your pad tidy..

    What's next pay fisherman who catch and release....


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Women also do more housework - which is UNPAID!



    Tell me Batrathox... how much housework do YOU do??

    We as a society need to start valuing women's contributions more. If patriarchal capitalist system is broken then government need to step in and pay a subsidy to women to make up the gap a finally recognize the work they do.

    Oh stop wearing a dress...

    I do ALL the housework, I also do about 80% of the cooking and also the maintenance and garden in the home. Herself works hard and long hours (as do i, but I am home earlier)

    I also have a mate who does absolutely everything in the house who also works full time while herself lounges and lunches (I would have divorced her).

    This BS outlined above is divisive, simple thing, if you do not like the job and feel you are being treated differently to a man in the same job, take action... don’t just make stupid claims...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Women also do more housework - which is UNPAID!



    Tell me Batrathox... how much housework do YOU do??

    We as a society need to start valuing women's contributions more. If patriarchal capitalist system is broken then government need to step in and pay a subsidy to women to make up the gap a finally recognize the work they do.

    I’m not talking about housework I’m talking about in employment - they act is if if a man and woman are doing the same job the woman will be paid 30% less. Which is illegal. It’s simply untrue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Nah, they're still earning, just at the same 13% disadvantage as they have been at all year. Silly morketing ploy!


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    who is meant to be paying them to do housework?


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  • Can we drag any woman in off the street to work for us for free. Will they lift up the rug and hoover or will they work around it. This OP isn't giving enough information on these women that have to work for free until the new year.

    And a for free working woman shouldn't just be for Christmas now until the new year. :mad:


  • Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ Jamari Juicy Tummy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Nah, they're still earning, just at the same 13% disadvantage as they have been at all year. Silly morketing ploy!

    The kind of person who believes this nonsense is not worthy of more than minimum wage.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    nthclare wrote: »
    So you're saying that what comes naturally is worthy of an allowance.

    Oh my gosh...paid for looking after your own kid's and keeping your pad tidy..

    What's next pay fisherman who catch and release....

    Housework "comes naturally". Jesus




  • Take for example, my wife who is on scale (same pay as her male colleagues) who has said she'd not work as a Principal (rather than principle :D ) for any amount of money, when did she stop getting paid this year?




  • bluewolf wrote: »
    Housework "comes naturally". Jesus

    I think they mean by virtue of them being female - open to correction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭Feisar


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Housework "comes naturally". Jesus

    I don't think that "comes naturally" was directed at women, more something 99% of us do as part of the general human condition.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,587 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I believe these arguments are not pertinent to the real world. My wife doesn't care if a female colleague of mine is getting less than me due to her being female. All she cares about is how much I get.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Woman to her husband while en flagrante: "Please say dirty things to me!"

    Man: "Bath, Kitchen, Living room..."


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101






  • would they still get payslips between now and the end of the year?

    prsi, how does that work?

    can see it being very tricky for revenue and payroll.


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  • would they still get payslips between now and the end of the year?

    prsi, how does that work?

    can see it being very tricky for revenue and payroll.

    It'd be payment in kind or barter system. They work for free and you have to go to the cinema to watch Last Christmas with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    This is disgraceful! When are the patriarchy going to stop the ridiculous gender stereotyping of women and pay them the same as men!! :mad:

    How else can they earn their maternity leave?




  • It'd be payment in kind or barter system. They work for free and you have to go to the cinema to watch Last Christmas with them.

    *starts lobbying for equal pay immediately*


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Housework "comes naturally". Jesus

    Well a dog with a mallet up where the sun don't shine isn't going to live in a **** hole is he.

    House untidy, mouldy.

    Go to shop buy cleaning products.

    Clean house because your natural instinct tells you it's unclean.

    You must have a lovely pad...

    What's your version of my comment ?

    I live in my own place I keep it tidy and hygienically clean.

    It's common sense and logical to clean ones own, bathroom, salon, workbench and facilities...

    But getting paid to clean one's own personal space is a bit much


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,325 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Daft press release from some charity trying to up their profile, not reference this alone but you would know an election is near they are all making a dash for it nonprofit, charities anyone and everyone popping up on news shows asking for more money.

    There is an interesting one going on locally one TD who seems to hate the guts of another local TD ( different Parties ) and delighted to get a chance to get a dig in, all to do with an origination making a dash for it threatening closer unless they get more money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,905 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I always thought it was negotiational skills that determined your pay, a company will only pay you what you negotiate. A company will rarely if ever give someone a decent pay rise for the craic. I did work with a girl once who did more than her fair share but would never ask for a rise, however her male colleagues would play hard ball and get the cash. The company did not publish salaries and would not encourage pay rises.




  • Women also do more housework - which is UNPAID!

    You're being rather sexist here. My parents both worked as teachers. My father did the cooking and housework around the house because he finished earlier than my mother... primarily because she wanted to advance her career by becoming the principal of her school. He also took care of us while she studied full time for both her Masters and PHD while we were young. So, he worked a full time job and also did all the family stuff... *gosh* isn't that what marriage is?

    Oh, and my mother made far more than my father, but then she worked more than him, and was more ambitious. I guess there's a message in there somewhere...
    how much housework do YOU do??

    Staying at home as a housewife, (or househusband) is a choice. She could be working and earning an income... although I should point out that she probably views the husbands earnings as being her wealth too.

    I always find it interesting with this kind of situation, since women remain the largest spenders in any consumer society. But they're apparently being paid less... where is all the money the husbands make going?
    We as a society need to start valuing women's contributions more. If patriarchal capitalist system is broken then government need to step in and pay a subsidy to women to make up the gap a finally recognize the work they do.

    Then end of the last vestiges of equality and competition in society. Yay!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    pawdee wrote: »
    Nice one! I need someone to do a bit of cleaning.

    I was just thinking that myself.
    And I’m a working woman.
    Where would a body find one of these girls that will work for free?
    PM me please.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Why don't companies just hire all women so? no brainer.


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  • WrenBoy wrote: »
    Why don't companies just hire all women so? no brainer.

    Because most companies who have attempted to do so have failed to stay competitive (unless they have huge funding behind them). Key employees leave too often for personal reasons resulting in a massive turnover of staff over time.


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