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A thread for weather extremes that don’t normally get reported

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    America starting to hit it's peak tornado season with an outbreak in the Dixie Alley area today

    https://twitter.com/Livestormchaser/status/1375191323733557254


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Dillonb3 wrote:
    America starting to hit it's peak tornado season with an outbreak in the Dixie Alley area today

    Any idea what size it was, sounds like it was substantial, maybe f3/4?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭lolie


    Dillonb3 wrote: »
    America starting to hit it's peak tornado season with an outbreak in the Dixie Alley area today

    https://twitter.com/Livestormchaser/status/1375191323733557254

    https://twitter.com/IntelPointAlert/status/1375158265856790531


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Any idea what size it was, sounds like it was substantial, maybe f3/4?

    Looks like a violent enough tornado. They should be doing the initial damage surveys this afternoon. One of the tornados struck James Spann's house while he was doing the weather coverage of it


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir




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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭lolie


    Vertical video again...

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    Ha yes, he may have been preoccupied though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,319 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    "Cloud avalanche" in Nepal, pretty cool, music background is a bit naff but worth a look all the same.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Freak late snowfalls in parts of Ontario, Canada. Toronto airport (CYYZ) measured 0.2 cm with a rainfall of 15 mm on 28th, daily max temp only 9 C. This snow is the latest measured snowfall in that location edging out May 26-27 1961 overnight.

    The downtown location no longer specifies snow amounts and public video reports suggest trace amounts fell there. It would be the fifth latest trace of snow since reporting began in 1840. (only since 2017 has there been this absence of definite snow reports but I maintain a data base from indirect clues such as snow on ground and nearby reports). The latest traces of snow at the downtown location were 3 June 1859 and 1 June 1945, also late May traces in several years. The latest measurable snowfall at the downtown location remains 16 May (1884). The max of 11 C for the 28th and the min of 3 C are both near record values, and if it fell lower by morning of 29th (today) I will add the details. Due to the urban heat island that has developed since most cold records were set in the 1840-1890 period, daily record lows are unusual at Toronto downtown nowadays but one was set last year on 9th of May.

    Most snow events in this region in May involve a cold rain that has snow mixing in occasionally, with a trend towards sticking snow on the higher ground west to northwest of the city. Elevations near Lake Ontario are only about 70-80 metres above sea level, but rise above 200 metres to the west of the Niagara Escarpment (the rock cliff that Niagara Falls cut into since the glacial era). There were video confirmed reports of 1-3 cm accumulations in the "highland" region northwest of Orangeville, ON specifically around Dundalk which is about 500 metres above sea level.

    It had been a warmer than average May to the 27th (this will cut in) and at the airport the high on the 25th was 33.3 C, so the temperature fell from that point more or less continuously until the snow and 3-4 C readings arrived.

    The snowfall was part of a larger rainfall event associated with low pressure tracking east-northeast through PA and NY states. It is therefore a somewhat similar event to the freak June 1816 inland New England snowfall from a coastal low. It also looked fairly similar to the reconstructed weather map for 3 June 1859 and some other late spring snow producers of the past.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Bsal




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,695 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Just west of Tours, a tornado ripped the bell tower off the church in Saint-Nicolas-de-Bourgeuil yesterday.
    https://twitter.com/GuillDelanoue/status/1406254241065451523

    Also damaged the community centre where voting was due to take place today, and associated hail ravaged local vineyards.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,804 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    The real deal. They had some nerve to continue filming, watch all the trees getting knocked over in the beginning.


    https://twitter.com/Brophyst/status/1408149370369982470?s=20


  • Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭Liberalbrehon




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Bsal


    On Monday Canada is expected to come very close to it's all time high temperature of 45c in British Columbia.

    Lytton, BC has tied it's June record today at 43.3c

    https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1408945381053014020?s=20

    Update

    https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1408959907773272067?s=20


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Yep now the next target is the all-time record for BC which is 44.4 C set on July 16 and 17, 1941 at Lytton and Lillooet BC (really it was 112 F, the value of 44.4 is the standard conversion of that reading so it might have been 44.2 or 44.6 for all we know). The two locations had a week-long heat wave which is not that unusual in our climate but the temperature values were extreme. Heat waves further east in 1936 and 1937 produced similar readings in SK and MB provinces, several other instances of 112 F and one of 113 F on July 6, 1937 in southern SK, that being the recognized Canadian maximum and we could see that fall in BC today or Monday.

    The 1936 heat wave (112 F south of Winnipeg MB) produced astounding heat in the U.S. plains states, with North Dakota managing a 122 F (50 C) reading. That heat spread to the east coast and most stations that have weather records from 1936 had their hottest temperatures during the spell July 8 to 15. Toronto hit 105 F on three consecutive days (8th-10th) and NYC hit 106 F on July 9th.

    Overnight lows in the 80s F were common in those brutal 1930s heat waves and thousands of people perished from heat prostration in an era that was generally before air conditioning became widespread in homes.

    Where I live is about three hundred miles east of the hot spots mentioned but there are other ones around the province that have a chance to hit similar values, one of which is quite close to my location (Warfield BC) -- it was about 101 F there today (Sat). Osoyoos in the Okanagan and Pemberton further west are other very hot locations.

    In the nearby state of Washington, readings above 110 F are a little more common and began to appear on Saturday but I think for them the worst will come around Monday-Tuesday when the heat dome settles down over top of them (now it's over top of us).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Bsal




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Wow remarkable


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Bsal wrote: »

    Wow, 46c is a big jump from that Max of 44.6 MT just mentioned, and 3 weeks earlier than the previous record.

    Pretty serious increase!

    I hope this doesn't shift the bell curve for what constitutes 'normal' weather

    Whats the limit for how hot the human body can tolerate again?

    This climate is perfectly normal, even though sustained temperatures above 37c would kill humans without access to air conditioning, that technology that has only existed for about 100 years


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Bsal




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭Bsal




  • Registered Users Posts: 14,319 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Quite remarkable temperatures for sure, it even reached 42 C here and this is not known as a heat trap. That is a slightly warmer temperature than either Toronto or New York City saw in the famous 1936 heat wave for their top readings of 105 and 106 F. (42 was rounded up from 41.6 so let's say 107 here today or as you call it, yesterday).

    Going out to enjoy the 26C midnight temps now.

    Luckily there is very little humidity with this, I think in the 1936 heat wave they probably had much higher dew points and therefore a humidex like 50 C, we added basically nothing but the sun is scorching.

    This is supposed to go on for about four more days before gradually moderating to more average July temps which around here are 25-28 C.

    These very high readings have been happening every few summers now but this one is a touch above, in most places, although I did notice some similar readings in southeast WA and northeast OR a few years ago, that one was much less intense over BC though.

    I have been in Las Vegas when it was 47 C and the only difference there was that it never cooled down at night, when we went out to our vehicle shortly after sunrise it was 32 C. Here we get a reasonably cool period near dawn which helps to maintain a liveable temperature in non-air-conditioned homes if it's managed well.

    We've been having quite an interesting discussion about why this heat wave popped up (on American Weather Forum) and opinions are all over the place between "must be AGW" to "would have happened anyway" to more subtle intermediate concepts. I don't think we could ever know for sure, a heat wave like this is not an inevitable detail of a 1 to 2 C deg temperature increase but I suppose the chances of it change from like 1 in 500 to 1 in 50 or something like that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,434 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    You'll always get extremes anywhere on the globe at any given time at all times of year. Worth noting parts of north America are below or well below average temperature wise for the time of year as with the Arctic region.

    I don't see anything extreme at all broadly. Just a small enough pocket of heat the through the pacific northwest but it will be gradually shifted in the next days to much cooler conditions closer the average for the region but still above by a few degrees for a while.

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    Current anomaly

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Yes, certainly impressive airmass temperatures in that one region, with 32 °C T850 noted in yesterday Bedford, OR sounding (same latitude as Barcelona), almost as high as some soundings in Saudi Arabia.

    https://meteologix.com/ie/radiosonde-values/canada/temperature-850hpa/20210628-0000z.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,115 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Canada sets new national record as temperature reaches 47.5°C (117.5°F) in Lytton, British Columbia


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    I have been in Las Vegas when it was 47 C and the only difference there was that it never cooled down at night, when we went out to our vehicle shortly after sunrise it was 32 C. Here we get a reasonably cool period near dawn which helps to maintain a liveable temperature in non-air-conditioned homes if it's managed well.


    I emailed my cousin who lives in Vancouver Island, where is it hot but perhaps a bit more bearable. She said that the have a heat pump system than can be reversed to provide some cooling and this is the first time in 7 years that they have used it. So good for heat pumps.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,132 ✭✭✭highdef


    Looks like we have a 47.8° @ THE DALLES MUNICIPAL AIRPORT, Oregon


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