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Garda shoots dog in Longford

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  • #1142
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,410 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    tuxy wrote: »
    I don't remember any point where Nally was made to look like the bad guy. Any evidence to prove the state unfairly labelled him? A man was shot dead and it was unclear exactly what happened so of course the state had to take it to court.

    From my memory Nally was in trouble for shooting Ward a second time in the back when he no longer posed a threat and them beating him.
    The prosecution argument was the the thread was no more when Ward was going away from Nally.


  • #1143
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    tayto lover wrote: »
    From my memory Nally was in trouble for shooting Ward a second time in the back when he no longer posed a threat and them beating him.
    The prosecution argument was the the thread was no more when Ward was going away from Nally.

    Bad form to criticise the man for finishing a job he started.


  • #1144
    dense
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭dense


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Is it Volkswagen that will not accept cash for commercials because they do not want certain people being seen driving around in their new vans.


    Positive discrimination like?
    Or is it negative, can't remember. Who said it? VW or the members of the community?



    Anyway, they must hate seeing the lads all crammed into the Passats looking into country houses.


  • #1145
    emptyhouse2222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭emptyhouse2222


    theguzman wrote: »
    Fire the warning shot through the roof after and say you gave them a warning. Padraig Nally should have been given a heroes medal, instead the state made him look like the bad guy.
    padraig got 3,500 christmas cards his first christmas in jail


  • #1146
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Señor Santa Pants wrote: »
    Well, no its not "Hollywood crap" at all.

    In this situation, i.e. close quarters, it was approprate to fire a shot low and at the legs.

    The AGS member was under threat, albeit a limited threat. He was engaging an unarmed civilian. If trained to shoot centre mass in this scenario as described, thats murder.

    The situation was clearly not grave enough to warrant a direct targeted centre mass shot. However, low and at the legs was appropriate course of action.

    It must be taken into consideration that the impact may have been a ricochet, suggesting that the shot may have been a warning shot. TBC obviously.

    well yes it is hollywood crap inspite what you saw on tv or the movies no person in real life trained with firearms was ever trained to shoot some one in the legs to stop a threat. its just not a thing

    when a firearm is produced by some one with trained it is to end the threat and the way to do that in any training manual ive ever seen or heard of is shoot center mass. . no warning shots no scare tactics no attempting to injure.
    read a few if you like there is plenty on line


    No it is never appropriate to fire into someones legs either . the shot was to the dog where the threat was and ricochet was accidental

    im afraid you very are wrong whether you care to admit it or not :rolleyes:


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  • #1147
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    mynamejeff wrote: »


    No it is never appropriate to fire into someones legs either . the shot was to the dog where the threat was and ricochet was accidental

    im afraid you very are wrong whether you care to admit it or not :rolleyes:


    How do you know there was a ricochet?


  • #1148
    Liam McPoyle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


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  • #1149
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,499 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    How do you know there was a ricochet?

    It's been reported.


  • #1150
    uptherebels
    Registered Users Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    How do you know there was a ricochet?

    I mean unless you think it was a trick shot?


  • #1151
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,410 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    How do you know there was a ricochet?

    There was only one shot fired as the recording shows.


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  • #1152
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,410 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Bad form to criticise the man for finishing a job he started.

    Ha ha I never criticised him.


  • #1153
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    How do you know there was a ricochet?

    well one shot was fired and a dog was killed and traveller hit .


    so ya know science ?


  • #1154
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Yup either ricochet off dogs body or both dogs body and the ground.


  • #1155
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    It is quite possible that there was no ricochet.

    There really is no evidence presented so far that there was a ricochet.

    For those posters who don't seem to know what a ricochet is this is a dictionary definition.

    "a ball or bullet that hits a surface and moves away from it at an angle, or an occasion when this happens "


  • #1156
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Almost as much controversy as JFKs shooting .
    Anyone for a grassy knoll ?


  • #1157
    sligojoek
    Registered Users Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    My theory is he missed the dog and accidentally shot poor Blondie.


  • #1158
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    sligojoek wrote: »
    My theory is he missed the dog and accidentally shot poor Blondie.

    And the animal blood found was just part of a traveller ritual, it's their culture.


  • #1159
    sligojoek
    Registered Users Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    tuxy wrote: »
    And the animal blood found was just part of a traveller ritual, it's their culture.

    Could've a bitch on heat. Can't rule anything out.


  • #1160
    emptyhouse2222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭emptyhouse2222


    oh my sweet jesus
    they are actually calling out the guard on facebook

    where is charlie flanagan with all his big words now


  • #1161
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    emptyhouse2222 wrote: »
    oh my sweet jesus
    they are actually calling out the guard on facebook

    where is charlie flanagan with all his big words now

    Any chance Tubridy et al will comment on this tomorrow?


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  • #1162
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    emptyhouse2222 wrote: »
    oh my sweet jesus
    they are actually calling out the guard on facebook

    where is charlie flanagan with all his big words now

    What page?


  • #1163
    mattser
    Registered Users Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭mattser


    Another hard days graft by the AH keyboard detectives. To date, they haven't established if there was a dog.
    There is loads of opinion, though, and lots of dissing about who is more qualified in firearm instruction.
    And let's not start on ricochets.


  • #1164
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    tuxy wrote: »
    And the animal blood found was just part of a traveller ritual, it's their culture.


    Who has claimed that animal blood was found?


  • #1165
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Who has claimed that animal blood was found?

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/body-of-dog-shot-dead-by-garda-in-tense-confrontation-cant-be-found-37600183.html


  • #1166
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


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  • #1167
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Who took the slash hook from her?
    cameramonkey wrote: »
    How do you know there was a ricochet?
    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Are you saying that the dag(dog) had the guard by the tie?
    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Who has claimed that animal blood was found?


    Magnus Magnusson is alive and well, who knew. To quote yourself.


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Did you watch the video?


  • #1168
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    There are posts with pictures from the Stokes of transit parts from April.
    Lets hope they are stupid enough to continue using social media and the Gardi continue the raids.


  • #1169
    sligojoek
    Registered Users Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Any chance Tubridy et al will comment on this tomorrow?

    Followed by a simucast by Joe Duffy from the control centre in Mullingar.

    Joe: How did you feeeeeeel when your dog was brutally and savagely shot by the naughty detective?

    Mrs Blondie: What dag Joe? There was no dag there.

    Joe: Well done.. Well done.


  • #1170
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    tuxy wrote: »
    There are posts with pictures from the Stokes of transit parts from April.
    Lets hope they are stupid enough to continue using social media and the Gardi continue the raids.

    Just had a look at some of their pages there - they are claiming their German Shepherd has been missing for 2 weeks, but all of the posts about it being missing are posted after the shooting...........


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  • #1171
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    tuxy wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/body-of-dog-shot-dead-by-garda-in-tense-confrontation-cant-be-found-37600183.html


    It does not seem to be a from an official Garda statement. It's from a senior source, what ever that means.


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