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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭jos28


    Thanks a million Detective Spurious. Annie and John Groves turn up as witnesses to James marriage in 1876. He married Catherine Saunderson daughter of Frederick Saunderson (occupation Hatter) !!!
    Loads of gaps being filled in tonight


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,088 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    jos28 wrote: »
    Thanks a million Detective Spurious. Annie and John Groves turn up as witnesses to James marriage in 1876. He married Catherine Saunderson daughter of Frederick Saunderson (occupation Hatter) !!!
    Loads of gaps being filled in tonight

    1873 Thom's has
    Sanderson, and Son, coach & cab builders, 34 Dominick street, lower, and 20 Dorset street, upper

    Hardly a coincidence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭jos28


    Brilliant stuff, thanks a million


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,088 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    vektarman wrote: »
    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cl/007604294_00712.pdf

    The link below is possibly my Greatgrandfather too, entry 31 on page 3.
    It's still difficult to figure out his birthplace and previous ship.
    http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/details.jsp?id=IRE/CREWLISTS/00017341

    I have found embassies to be very helpful in terms of pointing me in the right direction for other countries.
    There must be a Swedish registry of ships. Just a matter of finding out what it is called and where it is.

    No volunteers for Sweden, but there are a couple of Norwegians on Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness who might be able to nudge in the right direction. Worth an email.
    https://www.raogk.org/lookups/region/norway/


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Hi there,

    Looking for the witnesses here please!

    Also, I can't find anything for the bride elsewhere under "Liston" - could it possible be another surname?

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/62e0832517717

    patrick-brett-lucy-liston-marriage-1902.png


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  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭ath262


    oceanclub wrote: »

    Also, I can't find anything for the bride elsewhere under "Liston" - could it possible be another surname?

    on some of the births of their children she is recorded as Lyston or Leston


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,609 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    William B - whatever the groom's surname is, it's the same.
    Bridget Leary?

    Try Lister for the bride maybe?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭DamoRed


    Another possibility was Lester until I saw the stray dot up above.

    Amusing to see the registrar has written church over chapel, but only after the Ch


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭ANXIOUS


    Just wondering if some can help with this. It's the entry for. John peirce. Seems he was accidentally killed, I can't link the exact picture but it's 73 of 85.

    https://dublinportarchive.com/gallery/the-name-book/


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,206 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    https://dublinportarchive.com/gallery/the-name-book/#gallery-73

    Accidentally Killed by xxx(?) A Guinness and Sons motor lorry in Dame Street on Friday morning 31 May 1912.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    New Home wrote: »
    https://dublinportarchive.com/gallery/the-name-book/#gallery-73

    Accidentally Killed by xxx(?) A Guinness and Sons motor lorry in Dame Street on Friday morning 31 May 1912.


    Yep I agree. There would be a report in the newspapers of the accident.

    I'm trying to decipher the death record here:
    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05366/4496426.pdf

    "caught between motor car and house 80 Dame St due to accidentally skidding of said car". Awful accident.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭BowWow


    "Shock following injuries received by being caught between motorcar and house 30 Dame Street due to accidentally skidding of said car"


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Meursault


    Hi All,

    I would be grateful for your advice on this one please?

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03622/2337032.pdf


    On the eight name down (blank), I am trying to decipher the Mother's maiden name, the profession of the father (farmer?), and the address under the father's name:


  • Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭srmf5


    Meursault wrote: »
    Hi All,

    I would be grateful for your advice on this one please?

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03622/2337032.pdf


    On the eight name down (blank), I am trying to decipher the Mother's maiden name, the profession of the father (farmer?), and the address under the father's name:

    It looks like it could be Farrell to me


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,206 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Maiden name: Powell, I'd say. I don't think the profession is Farmer because of the "tall" letter in the middle.

    I'll take another look and make a stab at the others.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,206 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    It's Teacher! :)

    Ballymagooly.

    Underneath I think it says Teacher, Informant.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,206 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    The surname could be Sewell, too. :/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭BowWow


    New Home wrote: »
    The surname could be Sewell, too. :/

    That's what I thought.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,088 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Sewell was my thought too before I saw the above replies.
    If you check one page back, there is an instance of 'S' in Sheahan in the same handwriting which is identical to the letter at the start of her surname.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Ghekko


    Meursault wrote: »
    Hi All,

    I would be grateful for your advice on this one please?

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03622/2337032.pdf


    On the eight name down (blank), I am trying to decipher the Mother's maiden name, the profession of the father (farmer?), and the address under the father's name:


    Sorry can't figure out maiden name
    Teacher - part of the T missing? If you look at the informant it's the same name and says teacher, ballymagooly
    Ballymagooly


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    This register for Cootehall gives the dates in Latin words.
    Can anyone tell me what the birth and baptism dates are for Thomas Gibbons #183?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭KildareFan


    Hermy wrote: »
    This register for Cootehall gives the dates in Latin words.
    Can anyone tell me what the birth and baptism dates are for Thomas Gibbons #183?


    born 22nd December 1861, baptised the same day


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Meursault


    Thanks All for your help! Very much appreciated.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    KildareFan wrote: »
    born 22nd December 1861, baptised the same day
    Can you give the Latin version of that, I'm not seeing it myself.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Can you give the Latin version of that, I'm not seeing it myself.

    Yes, I meant to ask the same thing - what do you make of the wording.
    I can see something like vizessenia secunda for the birth but cannot make out the words for the baptism date which I presume mean ditto or similar.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,088 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Can you give the Latin version of that, I'm not seeing it myself.

    Many priests were not the greatest at Latin, but I think vigessima secunda is meant to be vicesimo secundo.

    Eodem die means the same day.

    https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/manuscriptsandspecialcollections/researchguidance/datingdocuments/latin.aspx


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Ah yes, I was put out by the month Decembris only appearing in the baptism column. It's more than likely the twenty-second in pidgin Latin alright.


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Tombom1


    https://imgur.com/a/fLSCXUR

    Hello can someone help me with a transcription for this house book description record?so far i have got:
    Carrowkeel
    John Healy £4.0.0
    house __ ____
    shed _ and offices?
    Barn and Stable
    This house is in a unfinished state
    ground floors mortar and clay no ____(deduct 2/6)
    painting? ____ _ thatch area upper room
    and it is made of ordinary materials :deduct
    2/6 per pa? and therefore? __ same ,as well
    as farm __ offices ,who of many he said to be
    in a similar state.___ ____ ___ ____
    ___and many? being for them from markets
    than the above and having a bad passage
    to roads ____ namely/nearby/nearly??the ____ on all other
    ____.
    30th Dec 1844 martin coffey bal__ter?

    Im not sure what the numbers mean ,a points system and a valuation based on that ,just for shed etc???This report is very interesting because our house was supposedly built in 1759 and built onto as i was told,the house is still here and walls downstairs are like 2 and 1/2 feet thick and it was one and a half stories before. If anybody could help me i would be extremely gratefull as i know it is a large enough transcription :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 76,206 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Would it be possible to get a link to the original document, please, rather than the link to an imgur image? I don't know if it's just me, but even increasing the text by 200% and changing the screen brightness didn't make the text any more legible.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Tombom1


    New Home wrote: »
    Would it be possible to get a link to the original document, please, rather than the link to an imgur image? I don't know if it's just me, but even increasing the text by 200% and changing the screen brightness did 't make the text any more legible.

    sure. http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007250632_00862.pdf thanks for looking!:)


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