Where are we off to tomorrow

For what beef dunnes retail they’d be as well by the fireside. Tesco is where they should have stayed for a week. Running half price promotion this week on Irish beef in the uk. Half their own price of course but we are dragging uk farmers into the gutter with us.

wrangler wrote: »

Private companies won't be bullied.
TBH IFA are being bullied by farmers now even though nothing is achievable
Independent farmers are supposed to be starting next week, they're unlikely to be satisfied with the price rise either

Your right there Wrangler, they wont be bullied but if they want to continue to gamble its a very thin line to test if another strike on the gates would test the industry statements ' another strike would be catastrophic for the beef industry'.
With the mind farmers are in now, most couldn't care less and the erratic nature of the farmer unions the Barons might be taking a serious gamble with their once taken for granted bounty.

Jjameson wrote: »

My understanding is that the retailers are in line for more than token 12 hour daylight blockades. The splinter grouping called the infoi are loosely organising the tractors return to the city. I do concur with wranglers take on the processors and retailers not giving into “bullying” easily and it is a combination of profiteering and and not giving cause to a precedents for strikes every week given that the cartel has such control here, the uk and Even parts of Europe there will be cause for protest every week really.

What all this messing might do is increase the CAP budget, especially as farmers across Europe are concerned and protesting as well

The chances of CAP increasing are, zero.

Water John wrote: »

The chances of CAP increasing are, zero.

They are if you don't push for it

They're not gone yet, and I bet were likely in for more delays until that show is sorted....and they may not end up leaving.. no budget will be decided by then and the longer we wait the stronger the chance that the new CAP will have a huge weighting towards environmental factors.

The stronger the environ factors, the stronger the chance of an increased budget...

However, we'll only end up spending our CAP on the measures, resulting in 2 outcomes. Keep your current production levels but incurring the measures, effectively farming without payments, or reduce output negating the need for the measures and holding onto the payments..

wrangler wrote: »

What all this messing might do is increase the CAP budget, especially as farmers across Europe are concerned and protesting as well

I’m not sure. Europe Farmers are really kicking like mules against being the enviro whipping boys, the cheap food policy while processors and retailers profiteer and it’s only starting.

gerryirl wrote: »

you know this environmental thing is some joke.. Im living within an asses roar of three yes three factories.. Im sending my cattle 80 odd miles away like a good few of the neighbours and one had to send his 120 miles to get them killed.. no choice in it as local fatories wouldnt take them or were cutting weights.. What is the carbon footprint of all that.. and the poor auld cow gets the blame when she farts.. FFS

That should be another highlight the Beef Plan could make. Name and shame them... See how they like that.

Are the IFA anywhere today?

gerryirl wrote: »

I heard they were picketing a butcher shop on the Aron Island today

Another joke for you

Beef Plan regional chair Enda Fingleton has defended a letter to Irish and UK supermarkets that claims Bord Bia is “misleading” them about Ireland’s grass-fed beef.

The letter refers to Irish farmers “force-feeding” cattle to reach under-30-month targets for beef. It was sent to Aldi, Lidl, Tesco, Musgraves, Dunnes, Sainsbury’s and Asda.

It reads: “At the moment we feel that a certain organisation who approve the quality of Irish beef is misleading the supermarket chains and the public about our grass-fed product. If we got the 30-month rule changed here in Ireland, we could be producing better grass-fed animals with far less force feeding with grains and cereals”.

Discuss

Jjameson wrote: »

Irish under 16 month bulls, 7 months with mammy, 9 months eating intensive maizemeal based diet. Grass fed image?

All I see wrong about the above is “force feeding”.
We farmers know what he means but urbanites may take it literally!

Stupid thing to do, It'll put a question mark over every under 30mth animal.
Frankly, I'm not surprised at it, they've been doing it all year, who do they think is buying their weanlings only farmers that are going to ''force feed'' cattle
Have you read the complete letter that was sent.

gerryirl wrote: »

Discuss ... jasus I dont know... amm I was "force fed" when I was younger but I still look like a friesian

Lucky you, we go on holidays with a couple and I physically couldn't eat what he eats and he too is a friesian ....... no justice

the beem money came this week. Badly needed for Chrismass here. A lot of this money came from Brusels its very important IFA have an office over there.

wrangler wrote: »

Another joke for you

Beef Plan regional chair Enda Fingleton has defended a letter to Irish and UK supermarkets that claims Bord Bia is “misleading” them about Ireland’s grass-fed beef.

The letter refers to Irish farmers “force-feeding” cattle to reach under-30-month targets for beef. It was sent to Aldi, Lidl, Tesco, Musgraves, Dunnes, Sainsbury’s and Asda.

It reads: “At the moment we feel that a certain organisation who approve the quality of Irish beef is misleading the supermarket chains and the public about our grass-fed product. If we got the 30-month rule changed here in Ireland, we could be producing better grass-fed animals with far less force feeding with grains and cereals”.

Discuss

He's not telling any lies to be fair

wrangler wrote: »

Another joke for you

Beef Plan regional chair Enda Fingleton has defended a letter to Irish and UK supermarkets that claims Bord Bia is “misleading” them about Ireland’s grass-fed beef.

The letter refers to Irish farmers “force-feeding” cattle to reach under-30-month targets for beef. It was sent to Aldi, Lidl, Tesco, Musgraves, Dunnes, Sainsbury’s and Asda.

It reads: “At the moment we feel that a certain organisation who approve the quality of Irish beef is misleading the supermarket chains and the public about our grass-fed product. If we got the 30-month rule changed here in Ireland, we could be producing better grass-fed animals with far less force feeding with grains and cereals”.[/B

Discuss

Crazy thing to do
Talk about cutting your own throat. If the public think that Bord Bia are misleading people how can anyone have faith in our product. Someone said recently that if the 30 month rule was removed you would have a glut in the autumn. As the autumn is traditionally the busiest time this would surely lead to another drop in price