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Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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  • #212
    Atoms for Peace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    It's all a show, Trump's usually tactic is being put into motion. I expect a peace conference between Trump and the mullahs in Las Vegas in the near future.


  • #213
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    archer22 wrote: »
    Yeah hence my comment "right" :rolleyes:

    Yeah, makes complete sense.


  • #214
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    It's all a show, Trump's usually tactic is being put into motion. I expect a peace conference between Trump and the mullahs in Las Vegas in the near future.

    Does trump have a hotel in vegas. He likes to keep things in house so to speak.


  • #215
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    Has ‘Gilead’ and variations replaced alt-right as the preferred insult of the left?


  • #216
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,027 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Does trump have a hotel in vegas. He likes to keep things in house so to speak.
    Yes he does but it doesn't have a gaming licence so its no good for such a conference.


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  • #217
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,027 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    If Iran was trying to proclaim that they didn't attack the ships, would it be a good idea to show their capability to shoot down drones?


  • #218
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,027 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Where exactly can the USA attack Iran from? Yep I've seen that map a few posts ago, but it doesn't show the terrain.

    Apart from that, Iranian people are some of the nicest, most educated and fun people that I have ever met from the Middle East, i would hate to see their country go the same way as Syria.


  • #219
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users Posts: 45,250 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Bolton is mad for a war.

    Can't imagine Trump and the American public want one.


  • #220
    paddar
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭paddar


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Where exactly can the USA attack Iran from? Yep I've seen that map a few posts ago, but it doesn't show the terrain.

    Apart from that, Iranian people are some of the nicest, most educated and fun people that I have ever met from the Middle East, i would hate to see their country go the same way as Syria.

    My OH is Iranian so I am slightly biased. The only options would be a ground invasion, which is pretty impossible due to the terrain or air strikes or nukes, which would be kinda genocide-y.


  • #221
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    That Iran could hit this drone which reportedly is designed to operate at 60,000 feet is quite impressive.
    Their air defences may be far better than thought.

    They seem up to now to have been following the advice of Sun Tzu in "The art of war".

    "hide your strength, show weakness, a surprised enemy is a beaten enemy".


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  • #222
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    archer22 wrote: »
    That Iran could hit this drone which reportedly is designed to operate at 60,000 feet is quite impressive.

    Russian bought?


  • #223
    YFlyer
    Registered Users Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Is John Bolton 100% hawk?


  • #224
    gw80
    Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭gw80


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The Iran situation is going too slow for Israel. Israel would be pushing Trump. I don't think Iran are that stupid as to provoke a war.
    Israel want Iran dismantled, the quicker the better. The world sits by with trade interests such as the U.K. nodding along.
    As always it'll be the average American/Iranian Joe who does the dying.
    And all the refugees would land at europes doorstep again with the help of many israeli ngo,s,
    Win win for israel.


  • #225
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Trump and his staff are briefing congressional leaders at the white house, invited sit down to discuss Iran. Started 20 minutes ago.

    Be hours yet till we know if Trump going to do something.


  • #226
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Kivaro wrote: »
    Russian bought?

    Yes russian made and supplied.


    Shooting down a slow moving surveillance drone is nothing spectacular in this day and age ,
    big difference between Iran and Russia's who's biggest claim to fame is shooting down flight MH17 over Ukraine.



    Be interested to see how brave Iran actually get before they get a bloody nose
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  • #227
    retalivity
    Registered Users Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Is John Bolton 100% hawk?

    100% sh1tehawk


  • #228
    InTheShadows
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The Iran situation is going too slow for Israel. Israel would be pushing Trump. I don't think Iran are that stupid as to provoke a war.
    Israel want Iran dismantled, the quicker the better. The world sits by with trade interests such as the U.K. nodding along.
    As always it'll be the average American/Iranian Joe who does the dying.

    Iran has stated they want Israel wiped off the face of the earth, let's not pretend the Iranians are walking around with halos on their heads.


  • #229
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    gw80 wrote: »
    And all the refugees would land at europes doorstep again with the help of many israeli ngo,s,
    Win win for israel.
    Exactly, Israel gets to be unopposed and has a free hand in the middle east if Iran is destroyed.
    And America gets to destabilise Europe with the resulting millions of refugees streaming into it.

    Their hope is this will lead to the breakup of the EU and make Europe divided and weak again...and hence easy for the neocons to dictate to and manage.

    They have already shown their attitude to the EU by their constant nudging of Britain to leave without a deal and promising them a 'great deal' with America if they do.


  • #230
    paddar
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭paddar


    InTheShadows wrote: »
    Iran has stated they want Israel wiped off the face of the earth, let's not pretend the Iranians are walking around with halos on their heads.

    What the regime says and what normal Iranians say is a different matter. In fact Iran has one of the largest and longest established Jewish communities in the middle east.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/irans-jews-on-life-inside-israels-enemy-state-we-feel-secure-and-happy-a6934931.html


  • #231
    1o059k7ewrqj3n
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Is John Bolton 100% hawk?

    200%.

    You would wonder why Trump, who was on record saying he wanted to drain the swamp, would appoint someone like Bolton, so established and ingrained into DC, who again and again says regime change is his ultimate goal in Iran.


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  • #232
    The Late Late Show
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    Steyr 556 wrote: »
    200%.

    You would wonder why Trump, who was on record saying he wanted to drain the swamp, would appoint someone like Bolton, so established and ingrained into DC, who again and again says regime change is his ultimate goal in Iran.

    John Bolton = a third Bond villain type, a third corrupt politician and a third Gileadean Commander type. He is facilitating wars aimed at regime change for dodgy corrupt exiled rebel groups such as Mojahedin E Khalq in Iran's case for years. Draining the swamp should mean getting rid of guys like him but Trump's 'drain the swamp' was about as sincere as 'we gotta clean up Gilead, son' in 'The Handmaid's Tale'. America's addiction to meddling in other countries and war will be a problem long after Trump leaves office and will be a problem with both parties (heard from BOTH Republicans and Democrats on a programme earlier and both were as bad as each other).


  • #233
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Is John Bolton 100% hawk?

    Like most republicans warhawks, he skipped Vietnam when it was his time to serve, Bush , Cheney, Wolfowitz, bolton , all the architects of the iraq war they seemingly had better things do be doing when their country was at war with Vietnam. They love fighting war with other people's blood .


  • #234
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    India has now moved warships and surveillance aircraft into the gulf, to protect their interests.


  • #235
    hcf500
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭hcf500


    Sorry its linked to fox, couldn't find it anywhere else. She is masterfully having a good dig at trump, by talking about high tension wires. trump is out of his depth entirely here. If only they could get the backing of pence, they could remove trump using the 25th Amendment. Now is the time for it, before he starts a war with Iran.



  • #236
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Anyone who thinks Iran attacked an oil tanker from a nation who's leader they were hosting at the time of the attack in an effort to improve relationships amid unwarranted US sanctions, is a ****ing moron.

    There are two antagonists in this invented conflict, and neither of them are Iran.


  • #237
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    hcf500 wrote: »
    Sorry its linked to fox, couldn't find it anywhere else. She is masterfully having a good dig at trump, by talking about high tension wires. trump is out of his depth entirely here. If only they could get the backing of pence, they could remove trump using the 25th Amendment. Now is the time for it, before he starts a war with Iran.


    She is just another swamp dweller.


  • #238
    hcf500
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭hcf500


    archer22 wrote: »
    She is just another swamp dweller.

    If you knew anything about Nancy Pelosi, you would not have said that! She is a very progressive clever woman!


  • #239
    1o059k7ewrqj3n
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭1o059k7ewrqj3n


    The Late Late Show wrote: »
    John Bolton = a third Bond villain type, a third corrupt politician and a third Gileadean Commander type. He is facilitating wars aimed at regime change for dodgy corrupt exiled rebel groups such as Mojahedin E Khalq in Iran's case for years. Draining the swamp should mean getting rid of guys like him but Trump's 'drain the swamp' was about as sincere as 'we gotta clean up Gilead, son' in 'The Handmaid's Tale'. America's addiction to meddling in other countries and war will be a problem long after Trump leaves office and will be a problem with both parties (heard from BOTH Republicans and Democrats on a programme earlier and both were as bad as each other).

    Stopped reading once you mentioned Gilead.


  • #240
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks Iran attacked an oil tanker ,.

    There are two antagonists in this invented conflict, and neither of them are Iran.

    That's the game , straight from the Kremlin missinformatiom playbook , deny , counter with different claims and conspiracy theories and Keep doing **** safe in the knowledge it will be blamed on America .


    But yet people on the internet keep falling for it
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  • #241
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,720 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    The Iran situation is going too slow for Israel. Israel would be pushing Trump. I don't think Iran are that stupid as to provoke a war.
    Israel want Iran dismantled, the quicker the better. The world sits by with trade interests such as the U.K. nodding along.
    As always it'll be the average American/Iranian Joe who does the dying.

    Dismantled and replaced with what exactly?


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