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Cut children's allowance after 3 kids

  • 05-10-2018 6:00pm
    #1
    TOMs WIFE
    Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭


    Cut children's allowance after 3 kids.
    Any more it's your choice, like Sky Sports.
    It encourages people who shouldn't have more, and those who really can't afford more, to have more.

    Allowance for 9th kid? Crazy. We'd see a little more restraint and more room in Garda Station waiting rooms if it was stopped.


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  • #2
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Should be cut after two, a refill is enough.


  • #3
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,038 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Should be after 2


  • #4
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Who gets to draw the line?

    Where does the line get drawn?

    If people had two brain cells that worked together they wouldnt have kids they couldnt raise.


  • #5
    PirateShampoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    With "Professionals" putting off having children until later life and then having only 1 or 2, where do you think the future generations are going to come from to pay for your free bus pass, medical card and state pension?


  • #6
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    I agree with this proposal entirely but it would be impossible to bring in


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  • #7
    dotsman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,635 ✭✭✭dotsman


    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    With "Professionals" putting off having children until later life and then having only 1 or 2, where do you think the future generations are going to come from to pay for your free bus pass, medical card and state pension?

    Nowhere - welfare kids generally become welfare adults!

    We need to completely restructure our whole social welfare program so it helps people to help themselves and not just encourage to become completely dependent on it for life.

    Any adult not able to even independently look after themselves financially should not be bringing children into this world.


  • #8
    puppieperson1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭puppieperson1


    Make people apply for a license to have kids then do a pre kids course then be monitered and IQ tested also made to outline the path they intend to lay out for the child and what education they intend to provide.

    After all that they might think twice & anyone who does not comply then their offspring be automatically sent for adoption to parents who can then have a child without all the IVF torture and raise a good decent human being !! SIMPLE ......


  • #9
    Irish Praetorian
    Registered Users Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭Irish Praetorian


    Four seems more reasonable, especially given the tendency of so many people these days not to marry and not to have children. Might also be an idea to express provision to families in the form of tax credits, so if you earn nothing and survive on government handouts you won't do so well, but if you're in a full time employment then happy days are here to stay.


  • #10
    myshirt
    Registered Users Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    All these threads laying into those on welfare is not consistent with the fact that the bulk of this country is actually sucking on the tit of the State whether you believe it or not. Is it just you guys don't know it?


  • #11
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Hello China.


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  • #12
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Link CB to gross family income, the higher the income the higher the CB.

    Encourage high earners to have more future high earners.


  • #13
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Do you really think people have kids for the sake of €35 a week ?


  • #14
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Is this law suggested to avoid another generation of the Corrs?


  • #15
    JJJJNR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    We need more kids not less. More children mean more tax payers to keep this kip going . Increase the children's allowance x10.


  • #16
    PirateShampoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    dotsman wrote: »
    Nowhere - welfare kids generally become welfare adults!

    .

    Do they yeah, I was a welfare kid to a single mother, I started work on building sites at 17 and I've worked the majority of days ever since. That was 20 years ago. Same can be said about my siblings.


  • #17
    puppieperson1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭puppieperson1


    we need more motivated kids ambitious kids not welfare kids


  • #18
    Atoms for Peace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    It should be cut altogether it serves no purpose now that abortion has been legalised. The government should be spending on infraetructure such as child care rather than individual payments.


  • #19
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    puppieperson1 wrote: »
    Make people apply for a license to have kids then do a pre kids course then be monitered and IQ tested also made to outline the path they intend to lay out for the child and what education they intend to provide.

    After all that they might think twice & anyone who does not comply then their offspring be automatically sent for adoption to parents who can then have a child without all the IVF torture and raise a good decent human being !! SIMPLE ......

    Good idea , we could do a theory test and have provisional license for practice rides.

    I like the idea of removing kids from their parents , sure that always works well.


  • #20
    puppieperson1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 301 ✭✭puppieperson1


    well you can see the alternative on the late late show tonight !!


  • #21
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    puppieperson1 wrote: »
    well you can see the alternative on the late late show tonight !!

    Ryan Turbridy turned out okay.


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Fcuk the kids. They should fend for themselves.


  • #23
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    We need more kids not less. More children mean more tax payers to keep this kip going . Increase the children's allowance x10.

    No we don’t. At the rate automation is going, these kids will end up unemployed.


  • #24
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    partyjungle wrote: »
    Fcuk the kids

    Reported
    Thats a new low in here


  • #25
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    Reported
    Thats a new low in here

    I'm paraphrasing OP


  • #26
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    partyjungle wrote: »
    I'm paraphrasing OP

    Im joking.


    *gets coat


  • #27
    Kevin Finnerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Kevin Finnerty


    Passed two girls today in the local Spar

    "Fucķin state of ya", the other being heavily pregnant.
    "As if I had a choice" says she. Two of them laughed, they'd less teeth between them than they had kids.

    Charming. It made me wanna cry.


  • #28
    TOMs WIFE
    Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭TOMs WIFE


    Wade Mango Tongue wrote: »
    Do you really think people have kids for the sake of €35 a week ?

    For some families, that €350 per week adds up.
    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Hello China.

    In the UK:

    Rate (weekly)

    Eldest or only child £20.70
    Additional children £13.70 (per child)


  • #29
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Kevin Finnerty wrote: »
    Passed two girls today in the local Spar

    "Fucķin state of ya", the other being heavily pregnant.
    "As if I had a choice" says she. Two of them laughed, they'd less teeth between them than they had kids.

    Charming. It made me wanna cry.

    Are you sure , you're in the right thread ?

    Maybe you should be in the pregnancy thread , the dental thread or Spar thread.


  • #30
    TOMs WIFE
    Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭TOMs WIFE


    The very fact that Citizens information have to publish the below, is worrying enough.

    Family sizeMonthly rate, €
    One child 140
    Two children280
    Three children420
    Four children560
    Five children700
    Six children840
    Seven children 980

    Eight children 1,120


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  • #31
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users Posts: 12,982 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Kevin Finnerty wrote: »
    Passed two girls today in the local Spar

    "Fucķin state of ya", the other being heavily pregnant.
    "As if I had a choice" says she. Two of them laughed, they'd less teeth between them than they had kids.

    Charming. It made me wanna cry.

    It reminds me of an antenatal appointment in Mt hospital when I was pregnant over a decade ago.
    Two, shall we say, less desirable ladies were having an open chat in the corridor, no qualms about who was listening.
    Turns out one of them was a nit advanced into her pregnancy before it was noticed and was at the hospital for a scan to determine gestation.
    The other one asked her if she was hoping for a boy or girl and the she replied by saying neither, sure I didn't even want to get pregnant.
    I know it's off topic here but your post reminded me of that and that some people should no be allowed be parents.

    To thine own self be true



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