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Shopping in Northern Ireland

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  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Drucilla07


    Hi guys I'm travelling to Belfast for the first time ever with my husband and new baby. We are looking to get some bargains for the baby and for Christmas - any suggestions gratefully appreciated . I've looked up waterwipes and they are the same if not more expensive . Anyone know of anything in particular we should stock up on ?
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,077 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Drucilla07 wrote: »
    Hi guys I'm travelling to Belfast for the first time ever with my husband and new baby. We are looking to get some bargains for the baby and for Christmas - any suggestions gratefully appreciated . I've looked up waterwipes and they are the same if not more expensive . Anyone know of anything in particular we should stock up on ?
    Thanks

    Not for the baby but alcohol, in particular spirits and wine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭liamo22



    The Quays are currently building in the car park, so a lot of the spaces are shut down.

    What are they actually doing to the car park does anyone know. Its been like that for ages!


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,865 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Just wait, there will be plenty of booze bargains in the run up to Christmas down South now.

    Just this weekend I got a 70cl bottle of Martell cognac for E29 in Supervalu. It's usually E35/6


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Just wait, there will be plenty of booze bargains in the run up to Christmas down South now.

    The duty alone will mean NI will always undercut prices on alcohol here. Most other things there's very little in it.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    bladespin wrote: »
    The duty alone will mean NI will always undercut prices on alcohol here. Most other things there's very little in it.

    There is not much difference in duty anymore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cortina_MK_IV


    liamo22 wrote: »
    What are they actually doing to the car park does anyone know. Its been like that for ages!
    £20M Expansion. I think it was put on hold for a while but it's back on again.

    http://www.itv.com/news/utv/update/2016-10-03/newry-set-for-major-shopping-boost/


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,077 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    £20M Expansion. I think it was put on hold for a while but it's back on again.

    http://www.itv.com/news/utv/update/2016-10-03/newry-set-for-major-shopping-boost/

    Hopefully a multistory car park is part of the plans, otherwise it will become a complete nightmare with those spaces gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Commotion Ocean


    Unless you live within a reasonable distance of the occupied 6 counties, you are wasting time (and fuel) going up there. The savings are negligible, you'd have to be buying some amount to make any sort of significant saving - even with the pound approaching parity with the Euro.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    Ad on tv just now. £20 for 2 btls of spirits, presume they're 750ml. Equates to €22.30 on Revolut. Thats a saving.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    dfeo wrote: »
    Unless you live within a reasonable distance of the occupied 6 counties, you are wasting time (and fuel) going up there. The savings are negligible, you'd have to be buying some amount to make any sort of significant saving - even with the pound approaching parity with the Euro.

    Was looking at Canon Eos 6d with lens.
    £1600 stg equates to €1770.
    €2200.00 down here for same package.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Crates of beer for £11, same here for €25(promotional price), I put it down to duty but maybe it's something else, wine is even cheaper for the ewuivalent, the savings are huge.


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ Arely Wooden Nozzle


    dfeo wrote: »
    Unless you live within a reasonable distance of the occupied 6 counties, you are wasting time (and fuel) going up there. The savings are negligible, you'd have to be buying some amount to make any sort of significant saving - even with the pound approaching parity with the Euro.

    There's plenty of savings in NI now with STG/EURO rate- if you're prepared to spend the time getting there.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    bladespin wrote: »
    Crates of beer for £11, same here for €25(promotional price), I put it down to duty but maybe it's something else, wine is even cheaper for the ewuivalent, the savings are huge.

    Distributor margins are the biggest difference for beer and wine; also supply chain price increases that will hit the UK haven't yet.

    The UK marginally cut beer duty (very, very marginally) in recent years as a populist measure - had all the Tory supporting tabloids raving about how much it'd save their normal alcoholic readers; but its still very close to ours and was higher before sterling slumped. On >7.5% beer ours is lower.

    Spirits duty is noticeably lower but that's it. The rest were near identical or higher before Sterling slumped.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,047 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    bladespin wrote: »
    Crates of beer for £11, same here for €25(promotional price), I put it down to duty but maybe it's something else, wine is even cheaper for the ewuivalent, the savings are huge.

    Beer duty is higher in UK than Ireland.

    Prices are lower due to more competition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Geuze wrote: »
    Beer duty is higher in UK than Ireland.

    Prices are lower due to more competition.

    Is that still the case for higher alcohol percentages such as over 7%. I always find it difficult to find beer/cider with percentages over that level at a reasonable price here.
    They always seem much more common and cheaper in the north, just check out sainsburys or tescos for instance to see the difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    dfeo wrote: »
    Unless you live within a reasonable distance of the occupied 6 counties, you are wasting time (and fuel) going up there. The savings are negligible, you'd have to be buying some amount to make any sort of significant saving - even with the pound approaching parity with the Euro.

    Plenty to be saved some quick examples below first two from smyths, tv from currys, all exact same product

    Lego Minecraft crafting box: €48 £35 approx €8 saved or 16%
    Barbie Malibu girls: €67 £49 approx €12 saved or 18%
    Samsung 32 inch smart: €350 £250 approx €60 saved or 17%

    There is €80 saved on a few items, from dublin to newry is 100km so probably 40 - 50 quid in fuel for round trip. I will say could be better getting items posted and using parcel wizard/motel etc. but if buying a lot is worth the drive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,047 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Is that still the case for higher alcohol percentages such as over 7%. I always find it difficult to find beer/cider with percentages over that level at a reasonable price here.
    They always seem much more common and cheaper in the north, just check out sainsburys or tescos for instance to see the difference.



    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/duties/excise-duty-rates.html


    Spirits = 42.57 per litre of alcohol in the spirits

    Beer, exceeding 2.8% volume = 22.55 per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer

    Wine - still, exceeding 5.5% volume but not exceeding 15% volume = 424.84 per hectolitre


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,047 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/rates-and-allowance-excise-duty-alcohol-duty/alcohol-duty-rates-from-24-march-2014

    UK excise duty

    The UK have an extra excise on high alc beers.

    Beer

    Alcohol type Rate per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer

    Beer - General Beer Duty £18.37

    Beer - high strength:
    Exceeding 7.5% abv - in addition to the General Beer Duty £5.48

    Beer - lower strength:
    Exceeding 1.2% - not exceeding 2.8% abv £8.10


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭sitstill


    I'm looking at heading to Newry on a Sunday. I always park in the Quays to go to Sainsburys. I understand that they only open at 1PM on a Sunday. Does anyone know at what time they open the car park? Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,813 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    I live beside the border so shopping in the North is a regular occurrence for ourselves. But I would urge a wee bit of caution here when it comes to people travelling long distances to shop in NI and then discover that its not all its cracked up to be at times. When you factor in the cost of diesel / petrol together with the exchange rate there may be no great savings. Im jot down a couple of things that spring to mind.

    Im only guessing here but for anyone who has to travel 100+ miles to get there and the same back obviously then you really should be be looking at spending at least £300 - £400 in order to see the savings.

    Buy your sterling in advance and do shop around for it. Ring the banks, PO's and credit union and ask how much £400 is to buy. You could save 10-15 euro at times. A lot of the bureau de changes will give better value though. Remember that the exchange rate you see quoted in the news bulletins and indeed on the digital display screens in banks etc is the actual true rate between banks but does not include commission or handling charges which normally amount to about 2%. So if you see on the news that €1 buys £0.90 then in real terms you will get £0.875 approx for your euro.

    A good quick example of how your Euros will exchange in sterling currency is first of all check the actual bank rate which for example would be 1 euro buys 89 pence sterling. As stated above you need to allow for handling charges and commission so take about 2.5 p of the rate and this will leave you then with the "in/out of pocket" rate of 1 euro buys 86.5p. So when checking your prices take the sterling cost and divide and divide it by .865 an that will give you a very close price in Euro.

    Ring in advance to whatever shops you intend to go to and ask what their exchange rate is. Some of them set a rate on a Monday and keep it the same up to the following weekend while others will just change daily in line with the banks exchange rate. Some of the bigger towns will normally do a pound = Euro in the run up to Xmas but thats depending on the exchange rates of course. When they do run the pound/euro promotion you will find some shops then giving 10% discount for example on sterling sales.

    A lot of the bargains are the "specials" that all food and drinks stores run so you need to check locally first what the prices are before heading north. Indeed all the top 4 or 5 stores here do their own specials at different times so watch out for them as it could cost you more in NI the odd time.

    Try to go midweek shopping if possible as the weekends are normally very, very busy from mid November onwards.

    Watch out if paying in Euro as the shops round up your price to the nearest tenner and charge you the rate and give you your change in sterling. You might buy something that comes to £70 which is the equivalent of €79. The shop will say..."that's €80" but the only notes you have are 2 x 50. They will take that 100 euro, change it to sterling and give you your change in sterling which isn't much use to you in a way. So make sure you are armed with plenty of 10 and 20 euro notes. If you do end up with a lot of loose sterling change then buy a couple of chocolate bars, minerals, crisps etc...anything just to maximise the savings to be made on your trip.

    Quite a lot of electrical goods are cheaper in the north as are toys so a good place to start looking is Argos online. Just last week I was looking at a TV in Argos UK and it was selling at £299 which would be about €345 at todays exchange rate but the price of that TV in the Argos Ireland catalogue was €389 so there's a saving of €44 which would buy your cars fuel for the shopping trip :). Comparing the prices between the 2 online Argos stores is a must.

    Visit the pound shops as they sell a lot of stuff cheaper than some of the big stores like Asda, Tesco etc. Again another example is a 6 pack of Cadburys fudge bars. Asda normally retail them at about £1.35 but you will get the same pack for 99 pence in the likes of the pound stores. The same applies to the large chocolate bars where the pound type shops have them at the same price every week and the bigger stores only reduce their prices every couple of months.

    I have known people to split into 2 groups or just 2 or 3 individuals with each individual going to a different shop in the same town. They can check prices on what they propose to buy and then text each other (cheaper than calling in case you are caught for the roaming rate on mobile calls) and then make the decision on where they are getting the best price.

    Car tyres and batteries are also normally a good deal cheaper in the north so if you intend to buy either or both then check local prices first an then ring before your trip and see what they are costing. On most occasions you should save on these items.

    Those are just a few ideas and suggestions that come to mind but the main point is to do your homework before you plan your journey.

    Hope that helps someone. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,263 ✭✭✭robyntmorton


    Great post Muffler.

    Obviously, being closer to the border helps, so the further you have to drive, the more it will cost, the more you need to spend/save to make it worthwhile.

    With that in mind, have a gameplan in place. Know what you are going to save your money on. That means you have at least covered your trip, and anything else is a bonus.

    If I am checking rough exchange rates in advance for card purchases, I use Visa's tool here. As an example, AIB charge 1.5% conversion fee, but other banks may vary. Also bear in mind that the transaction may be delayed a day or two, and the exchange rate can fluctuate a little over the course of the day.

    And absolutely, if you can, go midweek. Nothing worse than getting stuck in queues all day at weekends.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Great post Muffler.

    Obviously, being closer to the border helps, so the further you have to drive, the more it will cost, the more you need to spend/save to make it worthwhile.

    With that in mind, have a gameplan in place. Know what you are going to save your money on. That means you have at least covered your trip, and anything else is a bonus.

    If I am checking rough exchange rates in advance for card purchases, I use Visa's tool here. As an example, AIB charge 1.5% conversion fee, but other banks may vary. Also bear in mind that the transaction may be delayed a day or two, and the exchange rate can fluctuate a little over the course of the day.

    And absolutely, if you can, go midweek. Nothing worse than getting stuck in queues all day at weekends.

    Forget about AIB charges, just get a revolut card. put your euros on it, purchase your items in the north in sterling and get no conversion charges. Also the phone app for the card shows instantly how much the item cost in euros. Believe me you will save quite a bit purchasing sterling items in this way. Same goes if you make purchases online with amazon etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Geuze wrote: »
    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/duties/excise-duty-rates.html


    Spirits = 42.57 per litre of alcohol in the spirits

    Beer, exceeding 2.8% volume = 22.55 per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer

    Wine - still, exceeding 5.5% volume but not exceeding 15% volume = 424.84 per hectolitre

    I can see now why high alcohol ciders, particularly the still ciders are expensive here compared to the north. Massive difference there.
    Republic
    Still and sparkling, exceeding 2.8% volume but not exceeding 6% volume 94.46 per hectolitre

    Still and sparkling, exceeding 6.0% volume but not exceeding 8.5% volume 218.44 per hectolitre

    North
    Still cider and perry:
    Exceeding 1.2% - not exceeding 7.5% abv

    £38.87
    Still cider and perry:
    Exceeding 7.5% - less than 8.5% abv
    £58.75
    Sparkling cider and perry:
    Exceeding 1.2% - not exceeding 5.5% abv
    £38.87
    Sparkling cider and perry: £268.99
    Exceeding 5.5% - less than 8.5% abv


    And spirits:
    republic: 42.57 per litre of alcohol in the spirits
    north: £27.66

    Of course, some of these are only better in north since sterling crash.
    Hell of a difference for ciders though, even if the sterling was stronger than it is now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cortina_MK_IV


    sitstill wrote: »
    I'm looking at heading to Newry on a Sunday. I always park in the Quays to go to Sainsburys. I understand that they only open at 1PM on a Sunday. Does anyone know at what time they open the car park? Thanks
    I wish it was more recent but I'm sure I showed up at 12pm a while back and never thought of the 1pm opening. The car park was open but I fannied about for an hour and went back for 1pm. You could always go early and if not open, have coffee in McDonald's in Damolly Retail Park and head back into the Quays for 1pm.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,523 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Unless things have changed the carpark opens much earlier - I've nursed a hangover in the Burger King there on my way back from Portrush well before the large shops opened

    Northern Ireland has archaic Sunday trading laws and has near cross-party support for them too somehow.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,728 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    L1011 wrote: »
    Northern Ireland has archaic Sunday trading laws and has near cross-party support for them too somehow.

    Much the same as in England & Wales where a recent attempt to relax the Sunday trading laws was defeated by a broad coalition ranging from Christians to trades unionists.

    If one's main trip up North is a grocery shop, then it's a good idea to check mysupermarket.co.uk in advance to get an idea how much your basket of goods would cost in Asda/Sainsburys/Tesco or the other supermarkets so you'll know whether it's worth your while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Forget about AIB charges, just get a revolut card. put your euros on it, purchase your items in the north in sterling and get no conversion charges. Also the phone app for the card shows instantly how much the item cost in euros. Believe me you will save quite a bit purchasing sterling items in this way. Same goes if you make purchases online with amazon etc.

    Forget about cards full stop as someone who lives in the north and works in the south who changes money on a weekly basis I always use bureau de change and mostly the one in the buttercrane who's rate you can check online or the other option is use euro cash in store a lot of shops giving 90p so you but something for £10 give €50 get £35 change
    Anyone going to the quays get down early it's a nightmare ATM you could drive round for an hour and not get a space
    Saturday and Sunday Newry is a no go for me anyway just mental
    Late shopping wed Thursday and Friday is your best bet


  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Mad Benny


    I'm just back from Enniskillen. I wouldn't travel more than 20 miles to shop in the north if you are hoping to save money on groceries. Unless you are buying a boot full of alcohol, car tyres, medication or an expensive electrical good then it's not worth your while.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Mad Benny wrote: »
    I'm just back from Enniskillen. I wouldn't travel more than 20 miles to shop in the north if you are hoping to save money on groceries. Unless you are buying a boot full of alcohol, car tyres, medication or an expensive electrical good then it's not worth your while.

    what about mobile phones ? - is there any savings up north


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