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Over-priced consumer technology?

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  • #32
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    On the TV thing. Recently in a shop and seen an LG OLED tv. The image was as crisp as anything, couldn’t believe it.

    How’s it going to look at home though hooked up to the sky box and herself watching corrie?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #33
    Ursus Horribilis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Whatever about Macbooks, I'll never ever own an iPhone. Even if someone gave me one for free I'd sell it and make myself a nice few €. They're phones for people who are crap at technology.


  • #34
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    wexie wrote: »
    Yup, once you start looking a bit deeper there's only really a handful of manufacturers that make components. That goes for pretty much any kind of electronic hardware.

    One place to rule them all.

    Foxconn.


  • #35
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Feisar wrote: »

    How’s it going to look at home though hooked up to the sky box and herself watching corrie?

    If ever there was something you don't need to be watching in HD


  • #36
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,269 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Apple isn't a football team though so you can put the scarf and flag away.
    Are you talking the Big Apple or the Little Apple?

    The latter certainly is....

    :)


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  • #37
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,147 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Pretty much most mobile phones. There's very little advantage of your €800 phone over my sub €200 one, and I'm a big techy.


  • #38
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭Feisar


    wexie wrote: »
    If ever there was something you don't need to be watching in HD


    Just meant as in generic tv

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #39
    QuintusFabius
    Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭QuintusFabius


    mammajamma wrote: »
    Televisions, generally, have become cheaper over time. You can see companies trying to inject new (useless) angles like 3d, 4k, 8k, etc. But nobody seems to want them, hence the price direction.

    How have the other technologies managed to swindle people?

    I agree with you about 3D - total flop, didn't work in the 50s, didn't work in the 80s and still not working in the 2010s ... in fact I don't think they bother making 3d TVs now.

    But HD and 4K were game changers, watching movies and sports especially in HD and now 4K was a WOW moment for me .... couldn't watch on SD now.


  • #40
    KungPao
    Registered Users Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Vacuum cleaners with Super Sucking Hyper Technobabble. RRP €600.

    It’s for sucking up dirt, like. And that rechargeable battery will need replacement in 18 months too, more money for that.


  • #41
    mammajamma
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭mammajamma


    lawred2 wrote: »
    The general internet not so much!?

    What do you actually think the internet is?

    The internet is 5% information, 95% the mental excrement of a billion chimp-level humanoids.


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  • #42
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    I'll give you the touch pad. Apple have managed to perfect that. To get that you have to take a device that's basically made to go wrong as soon as the warranty is up. This has been shown over and over again by people like Louis Rossmann and even Linus Tech Tips did a piece on how anti-consumer apple were with him over his work station.


    I'll just plug in a mouse thanks.

    I own a lot of apple products as do my family and even 6+ years old stuff still works perfectly I’ve never had an iPhone “go wrong” even my iPhone 4s I use a a back up still works well as does an old iPhone 4 in the house. There was even an iPhone 3GS in use by a family member up until 6 months ago. My MacBook is 3 years old and if I took it out of the box new it would be the same as it is.


  • #43
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    QuintusFabius wrote: »
    I agree with you about 3D - total flop, didn't work in the 50s, didn't work in the 80s and still not working in the 2010s ... in fact I don't think they bother making 3d TVs now.

    But HD and 4K were game changers, watching movies and sports especially in HD and now 4K was a WOW moment for me .... couldn't watch on SD now.


    To be fair though, sticking with HD and using the extra bandwidth for 60 Frames Per Second would have been much better for Sport... and Porn.


  • #44
    fonecrusher1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Wasn't there a survey done a few years ago that concluded that the vast majority of Apple product buyers bought them primarily for the design of the product over performance.


  • #45
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    To be fair though, sticking with HD and using the extra bandwidth for 60 Frames Per Second would have been much better for Sport... and Porn.

    How old were you when you realized you could watch pornhub on your smarttv?

    I was today years old

    :o


  • #46
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    wexie wrote: »
    How old were you when you realized you could watch pornhub on your smarttv?

    I was today years old

    :o


    Not sure my lodger would like that...


  • #47
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Not sure my lodger would like that...

    They might join in.


  • #48
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Patww79 wrote: »
    They might join in.


    The wife defo wouldn't like that.


  • #49
    KungPao
    Registered Users Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭KungPao


    wexie wrote: »
    How old were you when you realized you could watch pornhub on your smarttv?

    I was today years old

    :o

    Is there a CCleaner for smart TVs? Asking for a friend!


  • #50
    Blazer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,414 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    LOL bollocks. At best they're in a nice box, they've had endless issues with design in the last few years. Then they try and make you repair through themselves, that's even if they'll do the repair. They've never been better, just different. Now they're 'different' in all the wrong ways just using off the shelf tech for double the price. And for some reason the fanbois keep trying to defend their anti-consumer nonsense.

    Sorry man but ye fandroid lads are blinkered.
    Look at huawei’s latest flagship phone “mate 20 pro”.
    Same price as iPhone.
    Loads of people have issues with green backlight bleeding and Huawei tried to pass it off as an oled feature.
    I sent an iPhone back to Apple last Monday for replacement battery.
    UPS came to collect it, delivered it to Apple who fixed it Tuesday and UPS delivered it back to me on Wednesday.
    Show me an android phone manufacturer who can deliver the same service??
    Thought so!!!


  • #51
    mammajamma
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭mammajamma


    sbs2010 wrote: »
    Not all but many consumer electronics seem to have a fixed average price point for a high range model.

    A couple of years ago I found an old newspaper from 1995 or so with a full page ad for phones. They were £200.

    An €800 iPhone is similar money today taking inflation and disposable income into account.

    The manufacturers keep innovating to keep justifying the high price which would fall otherwise due to competition, market saturation, etc.

    But for a given item the "high price " remains remarkably static in real terms over the years.

    It may seem like a static constant when only equating time/inflation.

    But when you add actual innovation into it? The ability to send text messaging was huge, big colourful screens was huge, smart phones were huge. But how many years old are those true innovations?

    A 200 euro phone back at the turn of the century was dripping innovation. Now what are you getting in return for paying the same equivalent price?

    What is an 800 euro phone doing today, that an 800 euro phone wasn't doing last year? Or the year before that? Or the year before that? Negligible stuff.


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  • #52
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Blazer wrote: »
    Sorry man but ye fandroid lads are blinkered.
    Look at huawei’s latest flagship phone “mate 20 pro”.
    Same price as iPhone.
    Loads of people have issues with green backlight bleeding and Huawei tried to pass it off as an oles feature.
    I sent an iPhone back to Apple last Monday for replacement battery.
    UPS came to collect it, delivered it to Apple who fixed it Tuesday and UPS delivered it back to me on Wednesday.
    Show me an android phone manufacturer who can deliver the same service??
    Thought so!!!


    I don't have to send my stuff back tbh.


  • #53
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Blazer wrote: »
    I sent an iPhone back to Apple last Monday for replacement battery.
    UPS came to collect it, delivered it to Apple who fixed it Tuesday and UPS delivered it back to me on Wednesday.
    Show me an android phone manufacturer who can deliver the same service??
    Thought so!!!

    ......no we can't....cause if you've an android phone that needs the battery replacing under warranty they just send you out a new battery, take off cover, pop in new battery...job done.

    I'm not sure how not being able to take out the battery to replace it could possibly be seen as any kind of advantage, don't get me started on SD cards


  • #54
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    wexie wrote: »
    ......no we can't....cause if you've an android phone that needs the battery replacing under warranty they just send you out a new battery, take off cover, pop in new battery...job done.

    I'm not sure how not being able to take out the battery to replace it could possibly be seen as any kind of advantage, don't get me started on SD cards

    There are very very few Android phones that have a removable back these days.


  • #55
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,532 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Not sure my lodger would like that...

    Euphemisms are way overpriced.


  • #56
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,269 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    My parents got their first TV shortly after they were married. £70 or so for a 14 inch B&W set - that's nearly 2 grand in today's money. It was still in use 10 years later. The wireless lasted a lot longer, although it did have a few bits glued together after one or two "incidents", probably caused by us kids


  • #57
    mammajamma
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭mammajamma


    QuintusFabius wrote: »
    I agree with you about 3D - total flop, didn't work in the 50s, didn't work in the 80s and still not working in the 2010s ... in fact I don't think they bother making 3d TVs now.

    But HD and 4K were game changers, watching movies and sports especially in HD and now 4K was a WOW moment for me .... couldn't watch on SD now.

    High definition, absolutely. But how many years old is that now?

    Is 4k making a similar leap? I don't think so, not nearly as much.

    And then where does that leave 8k??

    Its my overall main point, that we are paying the same money year in and year out, for less and less improvements. Its way overpriced.

    If things weren't hijacked by marketing and hype, we could all have the option of a perfectly acceptable laptop for 100 quid now. And if you were allowed the choice of an old-technology-but-barely-any-difference laptop for 100 euro or a brand-new-but-barely-any-difference laptop for 1000 euro...what would any level-headed person choose?


  • #58
    McGiver
    Registered Users Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Mookie Blaylock wrote:
    One Plus 6... Sweet as a nut

    Chinese phone manufactured in a sweatshop (well almost all are but this one definitely is). One Plus phones tend to catch fire by the way :)


  • #59
    McGiver
    Registered Users Posts: 4,366 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Beasty wrote:
    Are you talking the Big Apple or the

    How about a Pear. We've had enough of Apples. :)


  • #60
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Patww79 wrote: »
    There are very very few Android phones that have a removable back these days.

    Really? huh...think that's a moronic way of designing things.

    Then again I can't remember the last time I've bought a 'mainstream' phone.


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  • #61
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    McGiver wrote: »
    How about a Pear. We've had enough of Apples. :)

    You watch a lot of Victorious do you?

    :D

    http://pearcompanyweb.blogspot.com/p/pearpad.html


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