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Do you think nurses will get their payrise?

  • 08-01-2019 9:43pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    As the title suggests ... do you think the government will give what the inmo is asking for ? The way pascal and Harris is talking it looks like it’s going to be a long drawn out process. Who will buckle first. Btw, I do hope the nurses get what they want and they do a great job.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    I think they are paid reasonably well as it is. There is a pay agreement in place at the moment anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Deserve a shotgun blast in the face if someone dies over this


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 28 welltodo


    hawkelady wrote: »
    As the title suggests ... do you think the government will give what the inmo is asking for ? The way pascal and Harris is talking it looks like it’s going to be a long drawn out process. Who will buckle first. Btw, I do hope the nurses get what they want and they do a great job.

    hopefully

    but the way varadker is i'd say he'll cut their pay so they have to go to australia and then he'll bring in his own kind


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    welltodo wrote: »
    hopefully

    but the way varadker is i'd say he'll cut their pay so they have to go to australia and then he'll bring in his own kind

    How much extra tax are you willing to pay for their rise?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭gctest50


    welltodo wrote: »
    hopefully

    but the way varadker is i'd say he'll cut their pay so they have to go to australia and then he'll bring in his own kind

    his own kind ? , people that get stuff done like ?


    or was it just a bit of the racism from a 10 post wonder ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    They want more money yet they are giving out about conditions and worried about patients safety?

    Which is it, surely they should want the extra money spent on recruitment if they are giving out about staff shortages?

    More union greed, where will it end?

    Another bankrupt country in a few years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ Samantha Icy Rubbish


    welltodo wrote: »
    he'll bring in his own kind

    Male, Irish born, doctors?


    Or is there a badly veiled racist comment in here? If so, man up and state it clearly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭Odelay


    They have a 6% turnover of staff, not exactly a sign of serious staffing problems. I think this is being over hyped in the media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    I think they are adequately paid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    They will. When it's the PS vs the govt the PS always wins. They might not get all they are looking for, but they get more than they currently have.

    I've several friends and relations working in the health service (and wider PS) and the common issue that's cited is part-time working. Since it was introduced in the PS is has made rostering in some areas very difficult. The health service seems to be the most impacted of all areas.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,758 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Odelay wrote: »
    They have a 6% turnover of staff, not exactly a sign of serious staffing problems. I think this is being over hyped in the media.

    6%, if thats right its a non issue.
    The moneys better in dubai n we're supposed to match it. Eh, no.
    Was reading an article on a teacher the other day, aged 30 on 47k. With the airtime they get on rte u'd think they were on half that!

    http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/money-spending-diary-ireland-2-4404095-Jan2019/


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I think they are adequately paid.

    Nurses could demand 150 k per annum and most would support them, we adore nurses in Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    Of course they will get it. The irony is that after getting it, if Leo calls an election in the Autumn they will be out again.

    The budget plus income for the health service is €22bn, that’s €5k for every man, woman and child in the country. If nurses, by far the largest cohort in the health service are undermanned and under paid as claimed by their mouthpiece, where the fcuk is the money being spent?


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    They should let them know the pay rates before they sign up to stop them becoming nurses and then not agreeing with the pay..........


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    They want more money yet they are giving out about conditions and worried about patients safety?

    Which is it, surely they should want the extra money spent on recruitment if they are giving out about staff shortages?

    More union greed, where will it end?

    Another bankrupt country in a few years.

    Someday you might like to have nurses who are well paid and stress free if you are sick in hospital.I'm sure you would like to have the best possible care if you ever become a patient in a hospital ward.
    The point they are making is under the current pay and working conditions it is extremely hard to recruit new graduates into the HSE,leaving all hospitals short staffed and creating stress and danger to existing staff and also to patients.Extra beds are needed in every hospital in the country,that means more staff.Then there is the appalling situation of the HSE spending millions on agency staff every year.I could go on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭gctest50


    The Aras Attracta ones are suspended on full pay - how did they get away with that ?


    They went very quiet about that


    The HSE are spending € 43,000,000 on moving people out of places like aras attracta


    € 43,000,000 ? that's a lot of moving




    How many more Bungalow 3's were there ?


    Batter an elderly non-verbal autistic woman and get early retirement on full wages !

    What a country !









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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Someday you might like to have nurses who are well paid and stress free if you are sick in hospital.I'm sure you would like to have the best possible care if you ever become a patient in a hospital ward.
    The point they are making is under the current pay and working conditions it is extremely hard to recruit new graduates into the HSE,leaving all hospitals short staffed and creating stress and danger to existing staff and also to patients.Extra beds are needed in every hospital in the country,that means more staff.Then there is the appalling situation of the HSE spending millions on agency staff every year.I could go on.

    Why are they looking for more money so?

    Do you think throwing money at them will make them work harder?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    No, because next we'll have the teachers, then the doctors, then the consultants, then the revenue staff, then the ESB, etc etc. Before you know it we'll have benchmarking mark 2.

    The public and civil service already earns far more than the private sector, and we pay enough tax as it is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I think they are adequately paid.

    Who are you to decide they're adequately paid??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Odelay wrote: »
    They have a 6% turnover of staff, not exactly a sign of serious staffing problems. I think this is being over hyped in the media.

    If you have a union spinning a story for long enough, some people start to believe it unfortunately.

    What's the standard working week for a nurse I hear you ask ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Who are you to decide they're adequately paid??

    He's a tax payer


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    If you have a union spinning a story for long enough, some people start to believe it unfortunately.

    What's the standard working week for a nurse I hear you ask ?

    37 hours, average salary is 55k per annum not including overtime


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭touts


    There is a good chance the Brexit Recession will make the banking collapse look like a small economic correction. If that happens public service pay cuts will be the order of the day not pay rises.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,758 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Who are you to decide they're adequately paid??

    A 6% turnover in staff tells me more than an ingrid miley union love in exclusive!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Who are you to decide they're adequately paid??

    People are allowed have opinions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Unions have ruined this country. They used to serve a very necessary purpose, but these days its just constant calling of strikes in order to get paid more and more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    They are fantastic, are angels, do an unbelievable job and are nowhere near paid enough


  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭wat24


    The average salary really are averages due to the high earners who are usually in management. I’m 6 years qualified and on 36,000. Most of the nurses working with me are on around the same. There’s far too many bed managers and nurse managers working admin roles that aren’t hands on frontline care. That’s where the money is going


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    37 hours, average salary is 55k per annum not including overtime

    Can you give a source please?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Why are they looking for more money so?

    Do you think throwing money at them will make them work harder?

    They cannot work any harder as the are stretched to the limits everyday.Unfortunately there is a lot of ignorance and lack of understanding by people of how difficult it can be for nurses and other medical professionals working in our hospitals at present.A great example of that was shown by our Taoiseach recently when he made his stupid statement about Christmas being the peak time in Hospitals and therefore no staff should be allowed annual leave at that time.Its peak time at all times of year in our hospitals.


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