Seems like a good deal on firewood....

vicwatson · 20-09-2018 6:09pm

monkeybutter wrote: »

I think he just calls it a ton bag, that's how every one refers to them really, don't think that's underhand

I don't even think all builders bags are necessarily 1m3, some are .6 of a cubic meter, so if the bag wasn't in fact 1m3, that would be sly

at the price delivered, if dry, it might be value

I’m just letting people know that a “ton bag” is not a tonne of logs, that Facebook page has “ton bag” all over it.

Sasso · 20-09-2018 8:35pm

Agree. There are three types/sizes of ton bags. What some advertise are technically correct as they say a ton bag of hardwood etc but are using ton bags that are used for sand etc. So it's a play on words. When comparing suppliers' prices you may not be comparing like with like. So shop around and ask plenty questions.

allthedoyles · 20-09-2018 9:31pm

My experience with a tonne bag of logs was that the top few rows were lovely blocks but as I went down through the bag the timber was getting smaller and worse quality.
Eventually got to the bottom of the bag and last barrowful were dirty and wet.
Some places fill bags from a bulk heap and all blocks are similar. This is the ones to buy.

monkeybutter · 21-09-2018 12:02pm

allthedoyles wrote: »

My experience with a tonne bag of logs was that the top few rows were lovely blocks but as I went down through the bag the timber was getting smaller and worse quality.
Eventually got to the bottom of the bag and last barrowful were dirty and wet.
Some places fill bags from a bulk heap and all blocks are similar. This is the ones to buy.

where had you it sitting? did you move them on the day?

I moved them all on the day, was a fairly consistent load, air dried, which is what i want, most were 20% a few slightly higher, but each tree is going to be slightly different, especially if mixed varieties

Deep Thought · 21-09-2018 3:58pm

whats the better wood for a wood burning stove in my house - both are kiln dried..

Ash or Oak?

DT

deisedav · 21-09-2018 4:13pm

Deep Thought wrote: »

whats the better wood for a wood burning stove in my house - both are kiln dried..

Ash or Oak?

DT

Both are good, the oak will last a bit longer

Cloudio9 · 21-09-2018 6:35pm

Deep Thought wrote: »

whats the better wood for a wood burning stove in my house - both are kiln dried..

Ash or Oak?

DT

I prefer ash. It’s not as messy as oak which tends to have lots of splinters and flakey bark.

I also prefer the brighter flame with ash

deisedav · 21-09-2018 7:19pm

Cloudio9 wrote: »

I prefer ash. It’s not as messy as oak which tends to have lots of splinters and flakey bark.

I also prefer the brighter flame with ash

Yeah ash is good alright. Beech another good one too but not as easy to come by

allthedoyles · 21-09-2018 8:50pm

I always thought if it was kiln dried it didn't matter what breed of tree it was.
Wrong again I suppose.

Cloudio9 · 21-09-2018 8:55pm

allthedoyles wrote: »

I always thought if it was kiln dried it didn't matter what breed of tree it was.
Wrong again I suppose.

Well there’s not much in it, I just prefer ash.

There’s a lot of kiln dried birch around which smells nice but burns a little fast.

ablelocks · 10-09-2019 4:16pm

bumping for winter 2019...

spotted this on the coop store website

600kg kiln dried ash €199.99

oak available too...

the.red.baron · 10-09-2019 5:22pm

i'd say the original price was a bit on the high side for a meter cubed crate

vicwatson · 10-09-2019 5:55pm

ablelocks wrote: »

bumping for winter 2019...

spotted this on the coop store website

600kg kiln dried ash €199.99

oak available too...

Is that a genuine discount? Would this normally be €289 or is that a home store and more price?:D

Also, which is better burn. Ash or oak?

vicwatson · 10-09-2019 6:12pm

the.red.baron wrote: »

i'd say the original price was a bit on the high side for a meter cubed crate

Any alternatives cheers?

Mickeroo · 10-09-2019 6:19pm

Don't think you'll find cheaper than that for a crate of kiln dried Ash, though I'd appreciate the link too if there is.

Wheety · 10-09-2019 6:25pm

ablelocks wrote: »

bumping for winter 2019...

spotted this on the coop store website

600kg kiln dried ash €199.99

oak available too...

You have to pick up something for €1.01 to save €40 delivery

Edit: That should be €0.01 really but it tells me €1.01 when I add it to the basket.

Homer · 10-09-2019 9:05pm

Do they deliver nationwide or just in the regions where they have stores?

ablelocks · 10-09-2019 9:10pm

Homer wrote: »

Do they deliver nationwide or just in the regions where they have stores?

nationwide i think.

201 with free delivery is decent value.

vicwatson · 10-09-2019 9:55pm

Wheety wrote: »

You have to pick up something for €1.01 to save €40 delivery

Edit: That should be €0.01 really but it tells me €1.01 when I add it to the basket.

What to buy for €1.01 or €0.01

Roberto_gas · 10-09-2019 10:08pm

ablelocks wrote: »

nationwide i think.

201 with free delivery is decent value.

Will it fit in my balcony😁😁

Muahahaha · 11-09-2019 11:46am

ablelocks wrote: »

bumping for winter 2019...

spotted this on the coop store website

600kg kiln dried ash €199.99

oak available too...

Thanks for bumping, Im new to the wood buring lark this winter and just shopping around at the moment. Its seems you can get shafted over these ton bags if they are not 1mx1mx1m. Some of them are 80cm3 which is only 0.512 of a cublc metre.

The crate in the picture seems to be 1m3 or maybe even bigger? The ad doesnt say the crates size.

I've comes across the Dublin Firewood Company selling a 1.6m3 bag of kiln dried hardwoods for €285 with free delivery. They do the same size in softwood for €220. I only want to have one delivery hence thinking that 1.6m3 should do the trick for the winter.
https://www.dublinfirewood.ie/product/1-6m3-bag-kiln-dried-hardwood-firewood-free-nationwide-delivery/

Anyone here bought from that company before and how was the wood?

Muahahaha · 11-09-2019 12:06pm

Oh and on log stores- I bought this a couple of weeks back. It comes flatpack but is really easy to put together with a drill, took about 20 minutes. It is 60cm deep so designed to take two rows of 25cm logs. Volume of logstore is about 1.4m3, it would be 1.6m3 but the slanting roof chops a bit off.
https://www.woodford.ie/log-store.html

That company is in Cavan but they distribute to Agri stores around the country- I got mine from a company called Glanbia Connect. It was €179 delivered.

Otherwise whats the deal on kindling, was in B&Q a few days ago and a bag was €9 :eek: Is that normal, seems very pricey. Do you need much of it to get a fire going or does a bag last ages or something??

Cloudio9 · 11-09-2019 12:26pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Oh and on log stores- I bought this a couple of weeks back. It comes flatpack but is really easy to put together with a drill, took about 20 minutes. It is 60cm deep so designed to take two rows of 25cm logs. Volume of logstore is about 1.4m3, it would be 1.6m3 but the slanting roof chops a bit off.
https://www.woodford.ie/log-store.html

That company is in Cavan but they distribute to Agri stores around the country- I got mine from a company called Glanbia Connect. It was €179 delivered.

Otherwise whats the deal on kindling, was in B&Q a few days ago and a bag was €9 :eek: Is that normal, seems very pricey. Do you need much of it to get a fire going or does a bag last ages or something??

For kindling, I chop up the crate that comes with the logs using a reciprocating saw and that will last a good while. You don't need much kindling if using kiln dried logs.

Cloudio9 · 11-09-2019 12:28pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Thanks for bumping, Im new to the wood buring lark this winter and just shopping around at the moment. Its seems you can get shafted over these ton bags if they are not 1mx1mx1m. Some of them are 80cm3 which is only 0.512 of a cublc metre.

The crate in the picture seems to be 1m3 or maybe even bigger? The ad doesnt say the crates size.

I've comes across the Dublin Firewood Company selling a 1.6m3 bag of kiln dried hardwoods for €285 with free delivery. They do the same size in softwood for €220. I only want to have one delivery hence thinking that 1.6m3 should do the trick for the winter.
https://www.dublinfirewood.ie/product/1-6m3-bag-kiln-dried-hardwood-firewood-free-nationwide-delivery/

Anyone here bought from that company before and how was the wood?

The 1m crate of ash above for €200 is much better value than the 1.6m bag as the logs are stacked in the crate whereas the logs are just thrown in to the bag so you're not getting 60% more wood.

Cloudio9 · 11-09-2019 12:32pm

vicwatson wrote: »

Is that a genuine discount? Would this normally be €289 or is that a home store and more price?:D

Also, which is better burn. Ash or oak?

I prefer the brighter flame with ash and with oak the bark tends to break off so ash is cleaner inside the house.

Muahahaha · 11-09-2019 12:39pm

Cloudio9 wrote: »

The 1m crate of ash above for €200 is much better value than the 1.6m bag as the logs are stacked in the crate whereas the logs are just thrown in to the bag so you're not getting 60% more wood.

Thanks that makes sense.

One company I spoke to a few weeks back said they have some sort of vibrating machine that shakes their bags as theyre being filled from a conveyor. Not sure how much more gets in doing that but it makes sense to buy wood that is tightly stacked over bags with a lot of air in them.

The whole quantity thing with buying wood is a bit of a minefield really, its good we have this thread to discuss.

Mickeroo · 11-09-2019 12:40pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Oh and on log stores- I bought this a couple of weeks back. It comes flatpack but is really easy to put together with a drill, took about 20 minutes. It is 60cm deep so designed to take two rows of 25cm logs. Volume of logstore is about 1.4m3, it would be 1.6m3 but the slanting roof chops a bit off.
https://www.woodford.ie/log-store.html

That company is in Cavan but they distribute to Agri stores around the country- I got mine from a company called Glanbia Connect. It was €179 delivered.

Otherwise whats the deal on kindling, was in B&Q a few days ago and a bag was €9 :eek: Is that normal, seems very pricey. Do you need much of it to get a fire going or does a bag last ages or something??

We have a very similar log store and it's great, though I would advise if anyone is buying kiln dried wood then you need to put a tarp or similar on the front as it defeats the purpose of paying extra for the kiln dried stuff if it's left exposed to the elements.

Below is what we did with ours and it keeps it bone dry for the most part and still lets air circulate:

For kindling I just buy zip the bags in tesco for 3 or 4 euro.

Muahahaha · 11-09-2019 12:45pm

Yeah I bought a tarp in B&Q for €6 yesterday. Have yet to rig it up but it should do the trick. I have the log store pointing away from the prevailing rain so hopefully that helps. I believe it is important not to suffocate the wood too much as humidity will make the moisture level rise, it needs some airflow to keep it dry.

Mickeroo · 11-09-2019 12:47pm

Yeah you want some gaps and definitely don't want the tarp actually touching the wood.

Grumpypants · 11-09-2019 1:18pm

Nice, I'd been on the look out for a while and this seems like a decent deal. Ordered some Ash and chucked in some waxy firelighters to get the free delivery. The Crate just seems tidier than a bag for storing.

This is our first year with a stove, was all oil up to now. Any idea how long that crate should last us? I know that's like how long is a piece of string, but the house would have someone there 4 out of the 7 days and we'd all be in bed by 9

So there won't be a raging fire all day.

Seems like a good deal on firewood....

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