Scanlines or no scanlines

Steve X2 · 08-08-2018 11:11pm #1

I'm trying out some new XRGB Framemeister settings on my RGB modded Amiga CD32. On the XRGB generally you only want the scanlines on 240p content when outputting 720p as they can look weird/crap on higher res stuff. But I'm almost sold on the scanlines on this 288p RGB source running @ 1080p.
I can play with the brightness on the scanline mode a bit maybe.

So, scanlines or better without?
You need to watch fullscreen/1080p to actually see the scanlines properly, otherwise they look weird when scaled down by YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxMBPtpt0S0

CathalDublin · 09-08-2018 8:27am

scanlines all the way

eddhorse · 09-08-2018 9:02am

On the fence with that video but gotta say WITH scanlines.

Inviere · 09-08-2018 9:38am

Yeah I'd have to say in that vid it looks better when they're switched on

o1s1n · 09-08-2018 9:41am

Another one for 'on' here. It takes the edge off the blockiness of the sprites and gives it that 'how it was designed to look' feel.

Steve X2 · 09-08-2018 7:05pm

I've been testing a few HDMI scanline generators to put in the AV loop. But so far they are all sh1te. HDMI as its the last connection in the loop.
Looks like I'll be sticking with the XRGB's scanlines for now. I've ordered an OSSC as well, but it might be a month before it arrives.

KevW24601 · 09-08-2018 9:03pm

Depends on the monitor or what generator is being used, but all in all I'd be for. Especially for the old arcade monitors because it gives the game that rugged "gritty" sort of look.

80s Synth Pop · 10-08-2018 1:08pm

100% scanlines. If it's a VGA compatible source, take a look at the arcadeforge "Scanline Generator SLG3000". It works very well with a PO for controlling the intensity.

Steve X2 · 10-08-2018 2:03pm

80s Synth Pop wrote: »

100% scanlines. If it's a VGA compatible source, take a look at the arcadeforge "Scanline Generator SLG3000". It works very well with a PO for controlling the intensity.

Yeah, I've got one of those for and its pretty good at what it does. But not really suitable for my current setup. I think the Dreamcast and PSP dev kit are the only systems I'm currently using via VGA.

Steve X2 · 14-08-2018 8:29pm

So I tweaked the scanlines ever so slightly, little bit brighter and sharper image.
I think this is pretty much the best picture I can get out of an Amiga CD32 using the XRGB Mini. I'm 90% happy with it, but think the OSSC scanlines will be better.
The game is Disposable Hero by the way.

Steve X2 · 14-08-2018 9:29pm

Needs to be watched in full screen and max resolution otherwise the scanlines look weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JeExiaZ-68

Inviere · 14-08-2018 9:34pm

Looks lovely Steve. Is there the tiniest bit of saturation going on with the whites? Or is that perhaps how the game is meant to look? Or maybe it's just my screen?

Steve X2 · 14-08-2018 9:42pm

Inviere wrote: »

Looks lovely Steve. Is there the tiniest bit of saturation going on with the whites? Or is that perhaps how the game is meant to look? Or maybe it's just my screen?

The whites do look a bit off, but I think its the game. Do you mean they're too white/bright?

Inviere · 14-08-2018 9:48pm

Steve X2 wrote: »

The whites do look a bit off, but I think its the game. Do you mean they're too white/bright?

Yeah just slightly overly white/bright causing some saturation, as said, could be the game itself!

Steve X2 · 14-08-2018 9:50pm

Inviere wrote: »

Yeah just slightly overly white/bright causing some saturation, as said, could be the game itself!

I'll stick on a different looking game and see if i can spot it on that. The white sections on parts of DHero always looked a bit graphically unfinished to me.

Steve X2 · 14-08-2018 10:39pm

Yes definitely something up with the whites on this. I stuck on DHero on my upgraded Amiga 1200 which outputs DVI/HDMI and there is a big difference.
The XRGB isn't processing the HDMI signal from the A1200, just passing it through(which is why its a smaller native resolution capture).

Amiga 1200 over HDMI (unprocessed by XRGB)

CD32 over RGB SCART (processed and upscaled by XRGB)

I'll need to see if its the cable/RGB Mod or just the XRGB profile needs a slight tweak.

Well spotted Myrdi....Inviere

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