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Iran Did Do It..............says Trump

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  • #152
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users Posts: 35,568 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    "I would take the opportunity to warn against hasty conclusions, against attempts to lay the blame at the door of those we don't like," the agency quoted Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying.



    "Lately we have been seeing a strengthening campaign of political, psychological and military pressure on Iran. We wouldn't want the events that have just happened, which are tragic and shook the world oil market, to be used speculatively to further aggravate the situation in an anti-Iranian sense," Ryabkov was quoted as saying.


    It's so Russia that did it. At first he says
    ''I would take the opportunity to warn against hasty conclusions, against attempts to lay the blame at the door of those we don't like,''
    And the says

    ''We wouldn't want the events that have just happened, which are tragic and shook the world oil market, to be used speculatively to further aggravate the situation in an anti-Iranian sense,

    But why put that bit in the middle, to stoke the fiire ' IT WAS TRAGIC LOL AND SHOOK THE WORLD OIL MARKET, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT ''

    He talks of hasty conclusions and then called incident tragic, and it shook the world . So deliberately bombing hospitals in Syria is not tragic. A fender bender on a ship is though.


  • #153
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    That makes no sense
    actually it does

    Everyone expected Russia to back Iran in this. But they haven't in fact they have gone so far as to say Iran should not expect their Support. They have all but out and out given support for the US in this.

    Russia and Iran are not friends. Russia has long hated Iran for supporting terrorist networks all throughout the middle east.

    Iran has been involved in the Syrian civil war. Russian intervention in the Syrian civil war happened in 2015 and they have been there ever since.

    So in a way ...Iran and Russia are already fighting each other.

    Russia has been WAAY more involved in Syria than even Israel. Israel's official position is neutrality in the Syrian conflict. Russia has been trying to get them involved more for a long time.

    This is totally Russia's style ..and it would benefit them.


  • #154
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    "I would take the opportunity to warn against hasty conclusions, against attempts to lay the blame at the door of those we don't like," the agency quoted Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov as saying.



    "Lately we have been seeing a strengthening campaign of political, psychological and military pressure on Iran. We wouldn't want the events that have just happened, which are tragic and shook the world oil market, to be used speculatively to further aggravate the situation in an anti-Iranian sense," Ryabkov was quoted as saying.


    It's so Russia that did it. At first he says
    ''I would take the opportunity to warn against hasty conclusions, against attempts to lay the blame at the door of those we don't like,''
    And the says

    ''We wouldn't want the events that have just happened, which are tragic and shook the world oil market, to be used speculatively to further aggravate the situation in an anti-Iranian sense,

    But why put that bit in the middle, to stoke the fiire ' IT WAS TRAGIC LOL AND SHOOK THE WORLD OIL MARKET, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT ''

    He talks of hasty conclusions and then called incident tragic, and it shook the world . So deliberately bombing hospitals in Syria is not tragic. A fender bender on a ship is though.

    You are literally insane.


  • #155
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    actually it does

    Everyone expected Russia to back Iran in this. But they haven't in fact they have gone so far as to say Iran should not expect their Support. They have all but out and out given support for the US in this.

    Russia and Iran are not friends. Russia has long hated Iran for supporting terrorist networks all throughout the middle east.

    Iran has been involved in the Syrian civil war. Russian intervention in the Syrian civil war happened in 2015 and they have been there ever since.

    So in a way ...Iran and Russia are already fighting each other.

    Russia has been WAAY more involved in Syria than even Israel. Israel's official position is neutrality in the Syrian conflict. Russia has been trying to get them involved more for a long time.

    This is totally Russia's style ..and it would benefit them.

    So if it’s not Dallas oilmen it’s the Russians. And the Russians gain what from this? Nothing.

    Where are the crazies coming from?


  • #156
    Annd9
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Annd9


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    actually it does

    Everyone expected Russia to back Iran in this. But they haven't in fact they have gone so far as to say Iran should not expect their Support. They have all but out and out given support for the US in this.

    Russia and Iran are not friends. Russia has long hated Iran for supporting terrorist networks all throughout the middle east.

    Iran has been involved in the Syrian civil war. Russian intervention in the Syrian civil war happened in 2015 and they have been there ever since.

    So in a way ...Iran and Russia are already fighting each other.

    Russia has been WAAY more involved in Syria than even Israel. Israel's official position is neutrality in the Syrian conflict. Russia has been trying to get them involved more for a long time.

    This is totally Russia's style ..and it would benefit them.

    They are on the same side in the Syrian conflict , not that it makes them allies .


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  • #157
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    So if it’s not Dallas oilmen it’s the Russians. And the Russians gain what from this? Nothing.

    Where are the crazies coming from?


    They have everything to gain from this. Syria for one. It's theirs without Iran.

    Syria is the only significant crude oil producing country in the Eastern Mediterranean region.


  • #158
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Annd9 wrote: »
    They are on the same side in the Syrian conflict , not that it makes them allies .


    No they ARE NOT. It's not that simple.

    If that were true. Israel and Iran would be on the same side. Clearly that is not the case.


  • #159
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Easy. Twas The Saudis.


  • #160
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Easy. Twas The Saudis.

    Same boys that did 9/11?


  • #161
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Maybe they are right then. Maybe it WAS simply Iran.


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  • #162
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,176 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Easy. Twas The Saudis.


    There is no evidence of that in fairness.

    Just because they hate Iran etc its not reason enough.


  • #163
    Gringo180
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Israel is not the warmonger you think they are. The govt can't afford to be. It's electorate is the army. They go to war their voters DIE.

    They just live beside crazy countries with zero concern for human rights i.e Syria Iraq Jordan.

    Lol, I must live in some alternate reality where the Israelis fire flowers and chocolates and not missiles at kids on the beaches of Gaza.

    Also please don't insinuate I am blaming the Jews as if condemnation of Israels human right abuses is anti-semetic.


  • #164
    Annd9
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Annd9


    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    No they ARE NOT. It's not that simple.

    If that were true. Israel and Iran would be on the same side. Clearly that is not the case.

    Could you elaborate on this ? I'm genuinely interested btw . I've always had the opinion it was Assad, Russia, Hezbollah and IRGC(in the background) loosely working together .


  • #165
    The Phantom Jipper
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    Mohammed bin Salman has decided to chime in now. I would have thought he'd be keeping a low profile at the moment.


  • #166
    The Phantom Jipper
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    .


  • #167
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    The Phantom Jipper wrote: »
    .
    I see your point.


  • #168
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    something familiar about this isnt there ........


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident#Distortion_of_the_event


  • #169
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    There was a time when journalists would have gone chasing after the crews of the Tankers to find out what happened.

    Now they go chasing after Mike Pompeo and Jeremy Hunt to find out 'what happened'.

    Investigative journalism is no more...and any potential whistleblowers are either rotting in jail or on the run.


  • #170
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,722 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    kneemos wrote: »
    Trump inner circle plan I'd say. Elections are coming up and nothing Garner's votes like bombing the Arabs.

    The Iranians are not Arabs.

    But with John Bolton around and Trump being like Netanyahu's puppet its not a good combination.


  • #171
    The Late Late Show
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    This is The Handmaid's Tale backstory. Rogue American elements do an act of terrorism and pin it on Iran. Lucky for Trump they didn't completely copy the Handmaid's Tale backstory!!


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  • #172
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,433 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    A U.S drone has been shot down overnight in international air space in the Strait of Hormuz by an Iranian S2A missile.


  • #173
    The Phantom Jipper
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    A U.S drone has been shot down overnight in international air space in the Strait of Hormuz by an Iranian S2A missile.

    I don't think it has been established where it was when it was shot down. The Iranians are saying it was in Iranian airspace.


  • #174
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Iran is divided. The Revolutionary Guard are governed by the religious not the government. There is a long history of Iran attacking shipping.


  • #175
    InTheShadows
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    All this Iranian aggression is not going to end well. We are into the tit for tat stage now and i expect an American response with 48hrs.


  • #176
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Well done Iran...pity there wasn't a warmongering yank in it.


  • #177
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    1) do you have intelligence that says different or was it on a YouTube video?
    2) in the short term possibly. But again for the greater good

    1. The people who were literally on the ship have stated that it wasn't a mine.


  • #178
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Dog Man Star wrote: »
    Trump won the swing states by 77,000 votes in total in 2016. Clinton won the popular vote by 2.8M votes. Trump will lose the 2020 election by a landslide, as the Republicans lost the 2018 elections by enormous margins.

    No one wants to say this, but he has zero chance of being re-elected, not a hope in hell.

    Keep on believing. :rolleyes: Trump will get 4 more years.


  • #179
    intellectual dosser
    Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    Its all eerily happening in the build up to a US election year.

    If the US are in a full scale war with Iran by November of next year the Trump walks straight back into the White House.


  • #180
    Sonny noggs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Sonny noggs


    archer22 wrote: »
    Well done Iran...pity there wasn't a warmongering yank in it.

    You understand what a drone is, right?


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  • #181
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    You understand what a drone is, right?

    Yeah hence my comment "right" :rolleyes:


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