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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The FNG wrote: »
    These girls do know their nudes get traded for free on 4chan, right?

    Of course, it's the internet. Nothing that costs something, can't be found elsewhere for free.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    It's something else in this day and age, among the 18-22 age group.

    Flicking through tinder and of course plenty of them have instas so I follow them for a gawk.
    Follow this 18 year olds page and I see she has an only fans. Nothing but stories up about half price on onlyfans etc.

    The other day she had a pic up about doing some recording with another bird and a strap on.

    Now this evening I see she has a post up saying half price before her girl on girl strap on video. To be honest I can't see this working out long term for young girls. I mean how many lads would have a relationship with someone in pornos? It's the same thing. Would you really want to go out with a girl who's had her vadge plastered over all the whatsapp in the country?

    There was a girl on newstalk the other week trying to defend it. She couldn't come out with good defence, she was "but like..*exhale*.." She was claiming it's art, posting naked pictures online.

    I don't think many Irish women are involved in prostitution but the way this onlyfans thing is going, it's just the next step up.

    Women talking about getting respect from men and then selling their bodies online to lads who would just use them as cumdumps.
    It wouldn't bother me tbh, well anything up to girl on girl anyway. If she was shagging guys it would be a different story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Once upon a time humankind wanted to explore the cosmos, achieve dreams beyond our immediately base realities, search for answers both on a spiritual and scientific level, reach for the stars. That is what, if anything, makes us special - our fight to transcend our immediate limitations.

    The industry you describe is extremely addictive, and stands directly in opposition to the above. It lures people to only care about their base natural desires and about superficial things, resulting in the destroyed relationships, record rates of depression and suicide that is plaguing young people and all people really today.

    Sex is natural, but the extreme sexualisation of society that has seeped in every corner of life all around the world, most certainly is not. It is addiction that overtakes and consumes everything. That is why the neoliberal, consumerist societies have become so dominant and why they in turn promote the industry you describe - they derive their power, money, and status quo from the masses being addicted, as opposed to the masses challenging them and working for a better way of life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭HotDudeLife


    It's something else in this day and age, among the 18-22 age group.

    Flicking through tinder and of course plenty of them have instas so I follow them for a gawk.
    Follow this 18 year olds page and I see she has an only fans. Nothing but stories up about half price on onlyfans etc.

    The other day she had a pic up about doing some recording with another bird and a strap on.

    Now this evening I see she has a post up saying half price before her girl on girl strap on video. To be honest I can't see this working out long term for young girls. I mean how many lads would have a relationship with someone in pornos? It's the same thing. Would you really want to go out with a girl who's had her vadge plastered over all the whatsapp in the country?

    There was a girl on newstalk the other week trying to defend it. She couldn't come out with good defence, she was "but like..*exhale*.." She was claiming it's art, posting naked pictures online.

    I don't think many Irish women are involved in prostitution but the way this onlyfans thing is going, it's just the next step up.

    Women talking about getting respect from men and then selling their bodies online to lads who would just use them as cumdumps.


    Very true, lad i know whos living the single life has banged a few birds with OF accounts, they asked him over to record content. He never even asked for a cut, now he's online and didn't even get a penny.... People don't think long term


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,162 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    The FNG wrote: »
    These girls do know their nudes get traded for free on 4chan, right?

    4chan, or the other 4chan?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,272 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    The_Brood wrote: »
    Once upon a time humankind wanted to explore the cosmos, achieve dreams beyond our immediately base realities, search for answers both on a spiritual and scientific level, reach for the stars. That is what, if anything, makes us special - our fight to transcend our immediate limitations.

    The industry you describe is extremely addictive, and stands directly in opposition to the above. It lures people to only care about their base natural desires and about superficial things, resulting in the destroyed relationships, record rates of depression and suicide that is plaguing young people and all people really today.

    Sex is natural, but the extreme sexualisation of society that has seeped in every corner of life all around the world, most certainly is not. It is addiction that overtakes and consumes everything. That is why the neoliberal, consumerist societies have become so dominant and why they in turn promote the industry you describe - they derive their power, money, and status quo from the masses being addicted, as opposed to the masses challenging them and working for a better way of life.

    Whats the harm as long as nobody is being forced to do something they aren't comfortable with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,736 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    It's up on the net, for evermore.
    Fap material for generations yet to come...your grandkids could be having a fiddle to your antics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Snails pace


    It's up on the net, for evermore.
    Fap material for generations yet to come...your grandkids could be having a fiddle to your antics.

    I was just about to say the same. Apart from the grandkids part. Biggest issue is once it's online it's hard to take it down before images or clips are saved and re shared.


  • Registered Users Posts: 202 ✭✭BurnUp78


    Would you be curious enough to purchase a monthly subscription for the price of Netflix if you saw somebody you know on it? Would you consider becoming an only fans content creator yourself if/when it becomes more socially acceptable in Irish society?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭McGinniesta


    Only fannies would be better.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,539 ✭✭✭FourFourRED




  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭Aph2016


    Strap yourself in and enjoy the decline.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 146 ✭✭salamiii


    Ireland is a small country so every one will know you have a only fans site


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,571 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Maybe if there was a market for videos of people sprawled across a couch shovelling pizza into their mouth


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,857 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Wasn't there a big thread about this a couple of weeks ago?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    How did we get to the point where women see marriage and having a family as oppressive, but hawking your pu$$y online as 'liberating and empowering'?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod:

    Threads merged


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    How did we get to the point where women loony "feminists" see marriage and having a family as oppressive, but hawking your pu$$y online as 'liberating and empowering'?
    Begging your pardon, slightly tweaked your post there P

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,517 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    How did we get to the point where women see marriage and having a family as oppressive, but hawking your pu$$y online as 'liberating and empowering'?

    I'd say a significant factor was decades/centuries of women being led to believe their only function was to provide and care for a family for a man and that they had little to no say in how their body was used created a desire to be in control of both their own life decisions and what to do with their bodies.

    This coupled with the realisation that many people (men mostly) will actually pay them to get a glimpse/experience at what they will might never access in real life, with this particular woman anyway at least, led a lot of them to think, finally, let's make them really actually pay for it.

    Whatever about the motivations of the women on it, it seems that the motivations for a lot of younger men in signing up for it is not simply for the explicit nature, but actually just a desire for basic female attention. No doubt some people will think it is the fault of 'stuck up b*tches' and the 'me too/I believe her' topics etc putting ideas in to their heads and other people will think that it's a consequence of the topic of 'toxic masculinity' being discussed/explored more in public in recent years leading girls/women to decide they no longer have to play a subservient part in men feeling their needs for attention have been met.

    Irrespective of the above, whether it is true or not, Google indicates at the moment that 0.38% o the world have an OF account and 0.005% of the world are making content on it so, I wouldn't go claiming the world is fcuked or anything as a consequence just yet. Well, it might be fcuked, but it'll cost you €15/month to find out.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Most of the Onlyfans content creators are doing it wrong. You need a following from somewhere else before doing it.

    Take the twitch streamer Amouranth. Huge following on twitch and has over 6000 fans paying 11 dollars a month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    Wouldn't really bother me if my daughter worked as a stripper. Once it was what she wanted to do.

    It's not really any of my business.

    Someone get this chap a spine and a pair

    You don’t really mean that

    Wouldn’t really bother you ? You that sure ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    A woman I used to work with went on it recently. I didnt know her well, she worked in a different department to me but I always like what I seen. I signed up for €5 for the first month and am very satisfied with the content :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 Pigsaw


    A woman I used to work with went on it recently. I didnt know her well, she worked in a different department to me but I always like what I seen. I signed up for €5 for the first month and am very satisfied with the content :D

    How did you find her in the first place?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Pigsaw wrote: »
    How did you find her in the first place?
    She promotes it via her Instagram of which I occasionally had a gander on.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,810 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    She promotes it via her Instagram of which I occasionally had a gander on.

    Which is...?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Yeah you gotta be on all the time, constantly instagraming, snapchatting and facebooking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭8kczg9v0swrydm


    I have been a dancer in Dublin for a decade started in my early 20s a lot of the girls I work with are sound and believe me it’s definitely nothing you see on tv. However Ireland seems to have this negative attitude towards women in this industry or deems us all sex addicts or easy when the woman who gets bread in her local supermarket could be doing all kinds of dirty things that’s way worse than dancing and it seems to be okay because she’s doing it for free I don’t get the mindset of some of these people we have stage names in work to protect our identity.

    Part of this job comes with a lot of stigma there’s been a few girls who had people find out their day jobs and contact their boss to try and get them fired it’s normally women who rat them out and try to ruin their lives over it. There’s nothing I’d love more than to be open about my job and how it’s helped me get through some dark times in my life but I just couldn’t handle all the derogatory labels and insults and lows people will go to try and ruin your life over it. Since covid hit I don’t know how the strip club industry in Dublin is going to survive.

    I want to know what your opinions are on strippers and the likes of using onlyfans to make money nothing you say is going to bother me it’s more curios why people have a begrudging attitude towards these things when they do worse things for free with their husbands boyfriend or a random Jack the lad from coppers In Dublin on a night out.

    Let me give you an insight into what some of these Christian minded folk might have against your occupation.

    Sex is a beautiful and good thing, however it has a proper time and place (as many things do). This time and place is between a married man and his lawful wife in the privacy of their home etc. Anything else would be to cheapen the act, to destroy it's beauty, to destroy it's sanctity.

    An erotic dancer is someone who deliberately arouses men in a way only their wives are supposed to. The scant clothing and suggestive poses is what does this. Moreover, the men who attend such shows (or whatever else) lust after the dancers, seeing them as pieces of meat there only to satisfy their urges. This is no way to look at another human being. Most would not look at their wives or girlfriends in such a way, but here, anything goes.

    So I suppose the main points are 1) strippers cheapen the sexual act 2) the instill lust into the hearts of the men who look at them 3) they teach men to view women in a certain way (as pieces of meat) and 4) how could any wife/girlfriend be OK with their husband/boyfriend looking at strippers? How could any mother be OK with her son doing this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭MyStubbleItches


    Let me give you an insight into what some of these Christian minded folk might have against your occupation.

    Sex is a beautiful and good thing, however it has a proper time and place (as many things do). This time and place is between a married man and his lawful wife in the privacy of their home etc. Anything else would be to cheapen the act, to destroy it's beauty, to destroy it's sanctity.

    An erotic dancer is someone who deliberately arouses men in a way only their wives are supposed to. The scant clothing and suggestive poses is what does this. Moreover, the men who attend such shows (or whatever else) lust after the dancers, seeing them as pieces of meat there only to satisfy their urges. This is no way to look at another human being. Most would not look at their wives or girlfriends in such a way, but here, anything goes.

    So I suppose the main points are 1) strippers cheapen the sexual act 2) the instill lust into the hearts of the men who look at them 3) they teach men to view women in a certain way (as pieces of meat) and 4) how could any wife/girlfriend be OK with their husband/boyfriend looking at strippers? How could any mother be OK with her son doing this?

    JESUS WILL SAVE US ALL


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  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭Jaysus Christ.


    Down with this sort of thing.

    Careful now.


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