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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Csalem wrote: »
    The W Class from 1994 predate the VLs as lowfloor wheelchair accessible buses:
    13903770260_f376e036d0_c.jpgScan W 3 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    Forgot about them but were they not just on trial with DB rather in full service?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Forgot about them but were they not just on trial with DB rather in full service?

    They were definitely in full service. They started on the 222 before moving to the 300. They were withdrawn in 2000. On the other hand, the Natural Gas VL was a trial bus which as far as I can remember had a much shorter life with the company.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Csalem wrote: »
    They were definitely in full service. They started on the 222 before moving to the 300. They were withdrawn in 2000. On the other hand, the Natural Gas VL was a trial bus which as far as I can remember had a much shorter life with the company.

    They didn't last long at all any reason for their premature withdrawal. The VLs didnt last very long either I think they were only withdrawn in 2006 or 2007 so probably only they lasted 10 years in service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭john boye


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    They didn't last long at all any reason for their premature withdrawal. The VLs didnt last very long either I think they were only withdrawn in 2006 or 2007 so probably only they lasted 10 years in service.

    Most of the VLs actually ploughed on until 2009. Amazing really considering they spent their last 4 or 5 years in a sort of permanent pergatory, seemingly about to be withdrawn any day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    john boye wrote: »
    Most of the VLs actually ploughed on until 2009. Amazing really considering they spent their last 4 or 5 years in a sort of permanent pergatory, seemingly about to be withdrawn any day.

    I didn't they lasted that long


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    What a difference three years makes. SG 96 is seen on Hawkins Street with a 15 from Clongriffin to Ballycullen Road. Ths bus route still uses this road but shares the road space here with the Luas Green Line. The tram extension opened in December 2017 connecting Broombridge on the northside to Brides Glen on the southside.
    The Screen Cinema is seen beside the bus with an ad for Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation. The cinema opened in 1972 but closed in 2016 under plans to redevelop this area. Currently it is in a partially demolished state though could be fully gone by the end of 2018. This week in 2018 the sixth Mission Impossible film (Fallout) was released. In the background is Hawkins House. This was built in 1962 and housed the Department of Health. Like the cinema, this building is due to be demolished and replaced. These plans progressed by the end of July 2018 with the Department relocating to Baggot Street.
    Finally SG 96 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in the latter half of 2015. In 2018 this bus is due to transfer to Go-Ahead Ireland in 2018 for when they take over 10% of bus routes in the Greater Dublin Area. A lot of change in three years. 01/08/2015

    28860806597_8004544ed6_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (134) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1995 and KD 8 is reaching for the heights at Connolly Station. The bus is seen on the road approach to the station entrance. This was high above Amiens Street and the road approach was known colloquially as "The Ramp". For many years both sides were lined with buses laying over between duties. Both Dublin Bus and Bus Eireann. In 2003 it was removed and the ground leveled to make way for the tram stop on the Luas Red Line.
    KD 8 is one of those buses using The Ramp as a parking area. It is displaying route 42 which connects the City Centre with Malahide and Portmarnock.
    KD 8 entered service between 1981 and 1982 and was based in Clontarf Garage. 08/08/1995

    43233674774_41f4ae5060_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (135) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    ^^ that type of bus reminds me of my childhood.
    I can almost smell the fumes sitting at the back!

    Glad I stumbled on this thread. Great work!


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    ^^ that type of bus reminds me of my childhood.
    I can almost smell the fumes sitting at the back!

    Glad I stumbled on this thread. Great work!

    Even if you're not a bus nerd or transport nerd, this thread is gold for old photos of Dublin and elsewhere. By far my favourite thread on boards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1983 and KD 313 is at the northern extreme of the Dublin City Services network.At the time the bus was brand new, having been delivered to Summerhill Garage during 1983.
    It is seen at the terminus of tne 33 in Balbriggan. This town in north County Dublin was the furthest north the buses of Dubiln City Services went. It is also still the furthest north Dublin Bus go, and by the end of the year the furthest north Go-Ahead will serve. The bus stop here is shared with the bus route between Drogheda and Dublin,providing a connection between the two services.
    In 1983 the 33 terminus was outside the Bank of Ireland as seen here. Within a few years the bus terminated on the other side of the road. By the late-1990s/early-2000s the terminus had relocated further south along this road, outside Balbriggan Church where it still terminates today.
    The Bank of Ireland is still in this location but has been completely rebuilt in the intervening years. 14/08/1983

    44015744342_ffe6e40eb4_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (136) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    I love that it has an ad on it for Ulster while outside a BOI


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Also that must be a very short woman boarding!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭Tickityboo


    tnegun wrote: »
    Also that must be a very short woman boarding!!

    I Didn't know they had photo shop back then!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1994. The bus stops (and most buses) are green, the trains are orange and some buses are advertising the trains. RH 41 is seen on Hawkins Street at the 48A terminus. The bus is in an all-over ad for Irish Rail. The national railway company was going through an era of growth and rebranding with new trains and a new logo. This is reflected in the design on the bus.There was a second bus done up for Irish Rail at this time too focusing on its Fast Track delivery service. Sadly that is no longer with us, and the trains are no longer orange.
    The 48A connected the City Centre with Ballinteer via Milltown and Dundrum. With the arrival of the Luas in the early 2000s, patronage on the route dropped. Under Network Direct in 2011 the route was dropped, replaced by the 61 for the most part.
    RH 41 was delivered new in 1990 to Donnybrook Garage as a Wedding Bus. Following the end of its career in Dublin it moved to Cork where it operated an open-top tour for Cronin's. Hawkins Street, 21/08/1994

    42416517670_67d4b6a59d_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (137) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1982 and there are no Luas trams in sight. Instead D 59 is seen on Parnell Street with a 40A to Cappagh Hospital. D 59 was delivered new to Ringsend in 1967. In 1971 it transferred to Phibsborough were it remained until it was withdrawn in December 1982. The bus was finally sold for scrap in 1984. D 1 to D 217 were delivered as single door buses, while the remainder of these type of Atlanteans were delivered as dual-door buses.
    The 40A was part of the 40 family routes that served Finglas and the areas around it. The route ceased to run in November 2011 when it was merged with the 40 as part of the Network Direct review of the bus network.
    With the 40 becoming a cross-city route, the 40B and 40D are the only routes (along with the 120) to terminate on Parnell Street, but on the opposite side of the road to where D 59 is in the photo. The location in the photo is now a tram stop on the Luas Cross City. Parnell Street, 30/08/1982

    42564277550_6e12f5ed29_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (138) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are only going back to 1998, but we are at the western extremes of the Dublin Bus network. RA 312 is seen in Maynooth (Co.Kildare) at the 67A terminus. The main 67 route ran between Dublin and Celbridge with a few extensions west to Maynooth, which operated as the 67A. Under Network Direct in November 2010, the 67 and 67A were combined and all departures on the 67 ran to Maynooth via Celbridge. Maynooth is also served by route 66 which had services to the town of Kilcock, further west than Maynooth. However Network Direct in 2010 also removed those workings and both the 66 and 67 now terminate in Maynooth.
    RA 312 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1996. It was withdrawn by Dublin Bus in 2008 and then bought by Warrington Borough Transport. It remained in service with them until at least 2014.
    The ad on the side is for Eircell, which was Eircom's mobile phone network. It was subsequently sold to Vodafone. Maynooth, 07/09/1998

    29568716907_483fcd32ce_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (139) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1996 and another all-over ad of a train on a bus. RH 90 is seen at the terminus of the 8 on Burgh Quay. The bus is in an all-over ad for Fastrack. This was the express parcel service initially operated by CIE and later Iarnrod Eireann The bus was painted to mark the 21st anniversary of the express parcel service in 1995. The concept was simple - the express passenger trains had guard vans which could had empty space that could transport items from one part of the country to another. However with the arrival of railcars in 2007 the number of guard vans on the network reduced until only the Cork and Belfast line remained. In 2009 the service was finally ended, after 35 years.
    RH 90 was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1991 and worked from Donnybrook Garage. After withdrawal it eventually ended up with the Crann Support Group in Meath after spending six months in the UK..
    Route 8 connected Dalkey with Dublin City Centre until November 2016 when the route was withdrawn.
    Finally beside the bus can be seen Lafayette Photography, known to many for college graduation photographs, and behind the bus is The Irish Press.
    14/09/1996

    43741867465_720501a33b_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (140) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A slightly different Throwback Thursday this time were the bus is not really the primary interest in the photo but rather the background is.
    D 533 is seen on Tara Street and is not operating a route. It was delivered new to Phibsboro Garage in 1973 and was withdrawn in 1991. Like a lot of buses in 1988, this has received the Dublin Millennium badge alongside the company name on the side of the bus. Apart from that there is not a lot else to say about the bus.
    So why is the background more interesting? Behind the bus is Apollo House. This was built in 1969 and was one of three buildings in the area that were of a similar style. Hawkins House from 1962 and College House from 1974 being the other two. Collectively all three are regarded as some of the worse looking buildings in Dublin. With all three being eight storeys or over, they did dominate the skyline. During the 2000s Apollo House was sold and lay empty for a while. Plans existed for a long time to demolish and redevelop all three buildings but the 2008 recession delayed those plans. Before Christmas 2016 Apollo House was taken over by activists to house some homeless people and to highlight the crisis affecting the country. By early 2017 they were gone and the building was empty again. Finally 2018 demolition began and by August of that year the site was completely flattened. Around the same time Hawkins House was emptied and work began on College House. It seems after all of these decades, the redevelopment is finally happening. 21/09/1988

    43900350895_c3be705eb3_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (141) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1986 and just under five months to the creation of Dublin Bus, yet some buses are green. KD 20 is seen on Marlborough Street at the 44A lay-over. The bus was delivered new to Dublin in 1981. Built by Bombardier in Shannon, the KD class were delivered in a two-tone green livery, as were the single decker version - the KCs. Buses prior to this were delivered in a tan livery and the green livery was later adapted by the new Dublin Bus in 1987. KD 20 had a long career in Dublin, later joining the Training School and being used there up until at least 1999, and possibly into the early 2000s.
    KD 20 has the registration 20 JZL. This was the second KD to carry this registration. The first bus was a demonstrator built with a Rolls Royce engine and given the registration as a temporary measure. That bus was subsequently bought by CIE and became KD 191 in Cork.
    Route 44A connected the City Centre with Mount Prospect Avenue in Clontarf. the new route 130 that commenced in the mid-1990s absorbed the old routes 30 and 44A and used minibuses under the City Imp brand. Worth noting that the 44A had nothing to do with the 44 to Enniskerry.
    In 2017 this location on Marlborough Street became a tram stop on the Luas Green Line. 29/09/1986

    44235893144_93a11bc40f_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (142) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is a trip back to 1999 and Celtic Tiger Ireland, where anything was possible. AD 54 is seen in Parnell Square on the Icon Shuttle. The Icon Centre was opened by Bailey's in Leopardstown Racecourse in April 1999. It was designed to be a tourist attraction in the same vein as the Guinness Storehouse and Jameson Distillery. However, it was far less successful than either of those two. When it closed in 2001 it was attracting 80,000 visitors a year against a target of 200,000. Dublin Bus were contracted to run an hourly shuttle between the city centre and Leopardstown, which had a journey time of 45 minutes.
    AD 53 and AD 54 were the two buses dedicated to the route. Both buses were delivered to Dublin Bus in 1994 and operated out of Donnybrook Garage. Both buses lost the Icon wrap around November 2000 and returned to the core Dublin Bus livery.
    Parnell Square, 04/10/1999

    44380371634_046d2b79a7_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (143) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Csalem wrote: »
    It is 1986 and just under five months to the creation of Dublin Bus, yet some buses are green. KD 20 is seen on Marlborough Street at the 44A lay-over. The bus was delivered new to Dublin in 1981. Built by Bombardier in Shannon, the KD class were delivered in a two-tone green livery, as were the single decker version - the KCs. Buses prior to this were delivered in a tan livery and the green livery was later adapted by the new Dublin Bus in 1987. KD 20 had a long career in Dublin, later joining the Training School and being used there up until at least 1999, and possibly into the early 2000s.
    KD 20 has the registration 20 JZL. This was the second KD to carry this registration. The first bus was a demonstrator built with a Rolls Royce engine and given the registration as a temporary measure. That bus was subsequently bought by CIE and became KD 191 in Cork.
    Route 44A connected the City Centre with Mount Prospect Avenue in Clontarf. the new route 130 that commenced in the mid-1990s absorbed the old routes 30 and 44A and used minibuses under the City Imp brand. Worth noting that the 44A had nothing to do with the 44 to Enniskerry.
    In 2017 this location on Marlborough Street became a tram stop on the Luas Green Line. 29/09/1986

    44235893144_93a11bc40f_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (142) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    That's an interesting tidbit. Any reason for the numbering so?

    Reminds me of the oddities of the 17, 17A and the 51, 51A, 51B and the 51D

    Anyone know what was going on here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    That's an interesting tidbit. Any reason for the numbering so?

    Reminds me of the oddities of the 17, 17A and the 51, 51A, 51B and the 51D

    Anyone know what was going on here?

    The person in charge at the time just wanted to fill in gaps in the numbering system which is how 44A and 51A came about. The 17 and 17A were meant to be part of an orbital network I believe, either the two routes were going to meet or a third 17 was going to connect the two.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1999 and Dublin Bus are trying out a demonstrator bus. But first some context. In 1997 five single deckers (VL 1-5) were delivered to Dublin Bus, being the first full-length low floor buses in the fleet. The following year VL 6 arrived as a demonstrator which was run on natural gas and painted in a special Bord Gais livery. All of these buses operated on routes 1,2 and 3 which operated between Larkhill, City Centre, Ringsend and Sandymount.
    In 1999 this second demonstrator arrived from the UK and was put briefly onto these routes too. The bus was built in 1997 and operated on liquefied petroleum gas. Hence why in the UK it had as its registration "P10 LPG". As a demonstrator it was operated by a number of bus operators in the UK too. Eventually the bus was converted to a standard diesel bus and was sold to Arriva, operating in the north of England for most of its career. It remained in service until withdrawn in 2013.
    It is worth noting that Larkill is misspelled on the destination - the h is missing. At least it got the route number correct. It is also worth noting the slightly shorter than usual bus stop, although this was later replaced with a standard one.
    All in all, this was one of the more unusual buses operated by Dublin Bus for a brief period.
    Ringsend 11/10/18

    30313732457_1bf101d404_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (144) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,891 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    I was on this bus a few times, and it wasn't at all comfortable to be in. The VL class weren't too bad to be fair to them but this, nah.

    Csalem wrote: »
    It is 1999 and Dublin Bus are trying out a demonstrator bus. But first some context. In 1997 five single deckers (VL 1-5) were delivered to Dublin Bus, being the first full-length low floor buses in the fleet. The following year VL 6 arrived as a demonstrator which was run on natural gas and painted in a special Bord Gais livery. All of these buses operated on routes 1,2 and 3 which operated between Larkhill, City Centre, Ringsend and Sandymount.
    In 1999 this second demonstrator arrived from the UK and was put briefly onto these routes too. The bus was built in 1997 and operated on liquefied petroleum gas. Hence why in the UK it had as its registration "P10 LPG". As a demonstrator it was operated by a number of bus operators in the UK too. Eventually the bus was converted to a standard diesel bus and was sold to Arriva, operating in the north of England for most of its career. It remained in service until withdrawn in 2013.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,891 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Csalem wrote: »
    The person in charge at the time just wanted to fill in gaps in the numbering system which is how 44A and 51A came about. The 17 and 17A were meant to be part of an orbital network I believe, either the two routes were going to meet or a third 17 was going to connect the two.

    I had to dig into my old Garaiste account to clarify these for us all.

    Original route 17 was pretty much what we now know as the 16 (Save for the Airport/Santry section), with 16 being a designated short working between Griffith Avenue and Cormac Terrace.

    What we now know as the 17 was to have been a new orbital route that was to have run from Rialto to Walkinstown, Templeouge, Nutgrove and onwards to Dundrum and Blackrock. It took on the Bangor Road, Crumlim and Kimmage section of route 82 when it was cancelled in 1970. Apparently 17 and 17A were to have linked up at some stage; how exactly that would have happened is another story.

    51A was a short working of what became the 60. Both individual routes were introduced and renamed by the State approved DUTC in 1936, and have no relation to the Clondalkin 51. At the time new higher numbers were allocated to northside routes.

    The Clontarf 44A was a route that actually predated current Route 44. Originally it ran between Castle Avenue and Bath Avenue. Again the DUTC fiddled with it's number again in 1936, giving the Wicklow route 44, retaining the 44A and curtailing it to just northside service and introducing a new route for Bath Avenue, the 52.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,462 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Csalem wrote: »
    It is 1999 and Dublin Bus are trying out a demonstrator bus. But first some context. In 1997 five single deckers (VL 1-5) were delivered to Dublin Bus, being the first full-length low floor buses in the fleet. The following year VL 6 arrived as a demonstrator which was run on natural gas and painted in a special Bord Gais livery. All of these buses operated on routes 1,2 and 3 which operated between Larkhill, City Centre, Ringsend and Sandymount.

    111, 59 and even 45a also, maybe not initially but I remember these buses well, the always sounded like the were about to rattle themselves apart at any moment


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is a nice sunny day in May 1991 and KC 95 is seen in the village of Enniskerry while operating route 85. This route connected Bray to Enniskerry. Some departures continued further along the road to the Golden Gates. When the routes in Bray were reorganised in the 1990s, and mini buses were introduced, the 85 became the 185. The destination also became Shop River. The route later reverted back to double-deckers but is still the 185. October 20th 2018 is the last day Dublin Bus will operate this route with Go-Ahead Ireland taking over operations on the 21st October. The route will also become a bit more consistent with all 185 departures going to Palermo and every second one continuing on to Shop River. The Dublin Bus has some 185 departures only go to Palermo from Bray and go nowhere near Enniskerry where the other 185s go to. I won't even mention Fassaroe.
    KC 95 was delivered new to CIE in 1983/1984 and operated in Cork. It later passed to Dublin Bus, and was withdrawn around 1999. Enniskerry, 08/05/1991

    45362007232_9661fb6b03_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (145) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    It is 1995 and autumn in Dun Laoghaire. RH 93 is seen at the bus terminus beside the railway station after arriving with a 75 from Tallaght. This bus was delivered new to Dublin Bus in 1991 and entered service at Donnybrook Garage. Later in life the bus was transferred to Ringsend and was withdrawn in mid-2003.
    The bus is in an all-over ad for JVC Adagio Hi-Fi. At the time this was quite popular system for people to listen to music, a long way from the current iPod trend.
    Route 75 was a southern orbital route in Dublin connecting Dun Laoghaire, Dundrum and Tallaght. Up until October 2018 it was operated by Dublin Bus but then transferred to Go-Ahead Ireland. The only Dublin Bus vehicles that now lay-over at this location are those on the 46A. Dun Laoghaire, 28/10/1995

    44641520135_65f3526a1e_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (146) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Hallowe'en 1998 and it is raining at Dublin Heuston Station. KD 240 is with a 91 to the City Centre. This route ran on an adhoc basis, providing extra capacity to the 90 but not going all the way to Dublin Connolly. KD 240 was based at Conyngham Road and was delivered new between 1982/83.
    One thing to note in this photo is the ticket machine beside the bus. Free standing ticket machines were, and still are, rare for Dublin Bus. The other notable location that had a ticket machine was Dublin Airport, and there is still one there today. The one in Heuston is no longer there, with most people using Leap cards nowadays. However back in 1998 the vast majority of users were paying cash to the driver. These machines that allowed you to buy a ticket before boarding the bus were a curiosity of their time.
    31/10/1998

    45636423982_75b6a2b2f0_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (147) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Thanks Csalem, was starting to get the withdrawals earlier when I seen you hadn't posted :pac:


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