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MRF a top secret British army unit that carried out assassinations and false flag ter

  • 13-07-2020 3:41pm
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    The MRF was a top secret section of the British army the unit was formed during the summer of 1971 and operated until late 1972 or early 1973. MRF teams operated in plain clothes and civilian vehicles, equipped with pistols and submachine guns they were tasked with tracking down and arresting, or killing, members of the Irish Republican Army (IRA).


    Martin Dillon on the most well respected journalists and historians in Ireland described the MRF's purpose as being "to draw the Provisional IRA into a shooting war with loyalists in order to distract the IRA from its objective of attacking the Army".

    MRF operatives patrolled the streets in these cars in teams of two to four, tracking down and arresting or killing suspected IRA members. They were armed with Browning pistols and Sterling sub-machine guns. Former MRF members admitted that the unit shot unarmed people without warning, both IRA members and civilians.Former MRF members claim they had a list of targets they were ordered to "shoot on sight".One member interviewed for the BBC's Panorama, Soldier F, said "We were not there to act like an army unit, we were there to act like a terror group". Soldier H said "We operated initially with them thinking that we were the UVF", to which Soldier F added: "We wanted to cause confusion". Another said that their role was "to draw out the IRA and to minimise their activities".They said they fired on groups of people manning defensive barricades, on the assumption that some might be armed.The MRF member who made a statement in 1978 opined that the unit's role was one of "repression through fear, terror and violence". He said that the unit had been trained to use weapons favoured by the IRA so that their killings would be blamed on republicans.

    In 1972, MRF teams carried out a number of drive-by shootings on random civilians in Catholic and Irish nationalist areas of Belfast, most of which were attributed to Ulster loyalist paramilitaries, At least fifteen civilians were shot but there is thought to be many more, MRF members have affirmed the unit's involvement in most of these attacks. There are also allegations that the unit helped loyalists to carry out attacks.

    It was a British army unit of just 40 members some of which were taken from special forces like the SAS.

    Apart from false flag shootings they are also suspected (but this isn't fact) to be behind a number of false flag terror bombings, intelligence, in October 1972, the IRA uncovered and attacked two of the MRF's front companies— a mobile laundry service and a massage parlour— which contributed to the unit's dissolution.

    The MRF was succeeded by a far more sophisticated unit the Special Reconnaissance Unit (SRU; or 14 Intelligence Company) and, later, by the Force Research Unit (FRU). It's alleged they stopped using soldiers to carry out their assassinations and false flag terror attacks and bombings and solely used loyalist paramilitaries to carry out their attacks.


    Edit: some people are calling this a theory here's a link to a BBC news story about it where multiple members of the MRF give accounts on how their unit was created to be a terror group to fight the IRA.

    https://m.youtube.com/...rrBjuEv6w&t=208s

    There's also a panorama documentary which goes into far more detail but I can't find it, this is not a theory at all it's fact.

    Martin Dillon one of the most well respected journalists and historians has made numerous articles about it, there's also numerous news reports you can read about online with far more evidence than I can post here, there are also members not shown in the new documentary who speak about it far more graphically in the Provos, loyalists and Brits documentary from the 90s.

    This is not a theory.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Adam9213 wrote: »
    The MRF was a top secret section of the British army the unit was formed during the summer of 1971 and operated until late 1972 or early 1973. MRF teams operated in plain clothes and civilian vehicles, equipped with pistols and submachine guns they were tasked with tracking down and arresting, or killing, members of the Irish Republican Army (IRA).


    Martin Dillon on the most well respected journalists and historians in Ireland described the MRF's purpose as being "to draw the Provisional IRA into a shooting war with loyalists in order to distract the IRA from its objective of attacking the Army".

    MRF operatives patrolled the streets in these cars in teams of two to four, tracking down and arresting or killing suspected IRA members. They were armed with Browning pistols and Sterling sub-machine guns. Former MRF members admitted that the unit shot unarmed people without warning, both IRA members and civilians.Former MRF members claim they had a list of targets they were ordered to "shoot on sight".One member interviewed for the BBC's Panorama, Soldier F, said "We were not there to act like an army unit, we were there to act like a terror group". Soldier H said "We operated initially with them thinking that we were the UVF", to which Soldier F added: "We wanted to cause confusion". Another said that their role was "to draw out the IRA and to minimise their activities".They said they fired on groups of people manning defensive barricades, on the assumption that some might be armed.The MRF member who made a statement in 1978 opined that the unit's role was one of "repression through fear, terror and violence". He said that the unit had been trained to use weapons favoured by the IRA so that their killings would be blamed on republicans.

    In 1972, MRF teams carried out a number of drive-by shootings on random civilians in Catholic and Irish nationalist areas of Belfast, most of which were attributed to Ulster loyalist paramilitaries, At least fifteen civilians were shot but there is thought to be many more, MRF members have affirmed the unit's involvement in most of these attacks. There are also allegations that the unit helped loyalists to carry out attacks.

    It was a British army unit of just 40 members some of which were taken from special forces like the SAS.

    Apart from false flag shootings they are also suspected (but this isn't fact) to be behind a number of false flag terror bombings, intelligence, in October 1972, the IRA uncovered and attacked two of the MRF's front companies— a mobile laundry service and a massage parlour— which contributed to the unit's dissolution.

    The MRF was succeeded by a far more sophisticated unit the Special Reconnaissance Unit (SRU; or 14 Intelligence Company) and, later, by the Force Research Unit (FRU). It's alleged they stopped using soldiers to carry out their assassinations and false flag terror attacks and bombings and solely used loyalist paramilitaries to carry out their attacks.

    Interesting read, never even heard about that


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Interesting read, never even heard about that

    Yeah a lot of people haven't heard about this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    This same guy keeps removing my posts from after hours and tells me to put them here, he seems to be around 24 hours a day.

    No one reads the bloody history forum he may as well be saying you're not allowed to post this on boards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    Anyone know where else I can post these kinds of threads because no one reads this forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    The Conspiracy Theories forum seems most appropriate.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭StackSteevens


    Adam9213 wrote: »
    Anyone know where else I can post these kinds of threads because no one reads this forum.

    How about the "investigations" section of Gemma O'Doherty's website? Gemma loves spinning yarns.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    The Conspiracy Theories forum seems most appropriate.

    You know this is fact right? I'm guessing you just don't want to believe this is true rather than that you don't believe it, the only part of this that is questionable is their involvement in false flag bombings the false flag shootings are undeniable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    The Conspiracy Theories forum seems most appropriate.

    What part of this is a "conspiracy"?

    Or do you just shout conspiracy anytime you don't like what you hear?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,338 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Any sources for the OP?
    The story is interesting but without some actual evidence?
    Be it member interviews, memos or indeed anything else it's just that, an interesting story.

    I don't doubt that such underhand campaign tactics were undertaken, steak knife, shoot to kill and indeed RUC collusion would lend an air of credence to such claims but without evidence it's a theory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Adam9213 wrote: »
    What part of this is a "conspiracy"?


    Is there any point to your posting though - all your doing is raking over old, long forgotten issues. What next, the atrocities carried out by specialist units of the Norman forces in 1170? Why not get your teeth into something that matters like the environment, we could do with activists there or are you just a mouthpiece for a formerly proscribed organisation?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    banie01 wrote: »
    Any sources for the OP?
    The story is interesting but without some actual evidence?
    Be it member interviews, memos or indeed anything else it's just that, an interesting story.

    I don't doubt that such underhand campaign tactics were undertaken, steak knife, shoot to kill and indeed RUC collusion would lend an air of credence to such claims but without evidence it's a theory.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZrrBjuEv6w&t=208s

    There's a link to a BBC news story about it where multiple members of the MRF give accounts on how their unit was created to be a terror group to fight the IRA.

    There's also a panorama documentary which goes into far more detail but I can't find it, this is not a theory at all it's fact.

    Martin Dillon one of the most well respected journalists and historians has made numerous articles about it, there's also numerous news reports you can read about online with far more evidence than I can post here, there are also members not shown in the new documentary who speak about it far more graphically in the Provos, loyalists and Brits documentary from the 90s.

    This is not a theory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,844 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    If you're that invested in the subject surely the very least you could do is make the title readable. Rather than Copy/Paste, the end.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    banie01 wrote: »
    Any sources for the OP?
    The story is interesting but without some actual evidence?
    Be it member interviews, memos or indeed anything else it's just that, an interesting story.

    I don't doubt that such underhand campaign tactics were undertaken, steak knife, shoot to kill and indeed RUC collusion would lend an air of credence to such claims but without evidence it's a theory.

    If you think that's the height of collision you obviously haven't researched it yourself, even some of the highest ranking intelligence officers during the troubles have claimed loyalist paramilitaries are little more than pseudo gangs controlled by British intelligence.

    All of the high ranking loyalists have also been admitted or been exposed as agents as well as dozens of the highest ranking loyalists claiming they carried out their killings on behalf of British intelligence.

    Do them few small points I made not even make you a little bit suspicious?


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    If you're that invested in the subject surely the very least you could do is make the title readable. Rather than Copy/Paste, the end.

    The title ran out of space and it deleted some of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    How about the "investigations" section of Gemma O'Doherty's website? Gemma loves spinning yarns.

    You should post about on there about why this isn't true.


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Reaction_Force



    Some interesting reading,on the subject


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Reaction_Force



    Some interesting reading,on the subject

    Yeah I've read it and nearly everything else on the subject.


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    Adam9213 wrote: »
    Yeah I've read it and nearly everything else on the subject.

    I doubt that

    Anyone who proclaims emselves as knowing everything,is an idiot


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭Man with broke phone


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Is there any point to your posting though - all your doing is raking over old, long forgotten issues. What next, the atrocities carried out by specialist units of the Norman forces in 1170? Why not get your teeth into something that matters like the environment, we could do with activists there or are you just a mouthpiece for a formerly proscribed organisation?

    There is definitely point to looking at our past and getting the truth. (The history section he?)

    It shows us not to believe the british government and that they arnt the good guy. They are still doing the same in other countries, just dont tend to bomb white people if they can help it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭StackSteevens


    Adam9213 wrote: »
    You should post about on there about why this isn't true.

    What narcotic substance led you to imagine - I hesitate to use the word "think" - that I don't think that it's true? I can recall reading all about it many years ago in a reputable journal so I have no reason to doubt its veracity.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭Adam9213


    I doubt that

    Anyone who proclaims emselves as knowing everything,is an idiot

    No I just meant I've read everything on this subject doesn't mean I know everything though.


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