Cycle train

magicbastarder · 05-02-2019 1:45pm

it's kinda just incoherent?
'cars kill, that means you should walk and not cycle'.

magicbastarder · 05-02-2019 1:47pm

anyway, the word is spreading:

https://twitter.com/AnneCronin5/status/1092721339092340736

beauf · 05-02-2019 2:48pm

I'm reminded of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40RfeOOOKAA

magicbastarder · 05-02-2019 2:53pm

Hurrache wrote: »

I'm absolutely staggered that your post is coming from someone with a signature like yours though, demonstrates a massive ignorance when it comes to anything transport related.

For those on mobiles, this is her signature.

interestingly, i've just learned on that galwaytransport.info site of the concept of 'tactical urbanism', of which it claims to be an example.

the weird thing is, this initiative is surely also an example of tactical urbanism. not that i know what affiliation Mrs OBumble has to the galyway transport site, but you're right in that it seems strange to hold such differing positions on the topics.

05-02-2019 3:07pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

not that i know what affiliation Mrs OBumble has to the galyway transport site

She runs it

what_traffic · 05-02-2019 3:17pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

The real issue is that in this neighbourhood parents have delegated school transport to a volunteer community group. What keeps the volunteers motivated is their desire to spread the gospel of bicycling. Remove that and the programme falls apart.

This is 100% false. Disappointed as a Galway City resident that you are spreading this untruth, you need to get out to the suburbs of Galway City and meet them.
The vast majority of the volunteers on the Cycle Bus are parents of the children.
That is also why it will not fall apart.

TheQuietFella · 06-02-2019 1:40am

beauf wrote: »

I like the way you are trying to derail this.

Can people not get overweight though home cooking?

It depends on what you cook but when I was school going my Mother
always had a dinner on the table when we got home at 12:30 and a tea
in the evening and we, I can assure you were not the most affluent of
families but everything we ate was made and prepared in the home.

Today people don't make the time to make a sandwich for their own lunch!
I don't understand the concept of the ready meal syndrome. I make my own
sandwiches and cook my own dinners for work!

beauf · 06-02-2019 1:59am

TheQuietFella wrote: »

It depends on what you cook ...

I think it depends what you eat not cook.
Lots of people don't cook that much yet are not overweight.
Eating too much might be due to comfort eating, boredom and any number of things, mental health, depression etc.

None of that has got to do with promoting exercise for all ages especially kids. Even who are not overweight should do exercise. Its good for lots of things.

Mrs OBumble · 06-02-2019 10:18am

Hurrache wrote: »

I've no idea what points you're trying to make?

So people shouldn't bring their kids to school on bikes because it makes those who can't afford bikes feel bad?

I'm absolutely staggered that your post is coming from someone with a signature like yours though, demonstrates a massive ignorance when it comes to anything transport related.

For those on mobiles, this is her signature.

I support in this order:
1 Walking
2 using shared, professionally driven, vehicles
3 using individual vehicles with amateur, but at least licensed, drivers
4 using individual vehicles with amateur unlicensed drivers.

I do not at all support childres under age 12(*) operating vehicles on the road, no matter how they are powered.

(*) oveaseas I'd have said 10, but 12 is the RSA advice in this country.

beauf · 06-02-2019 10:45am

Basically you want more traffic. Useful especially in Galway.

How about someone with a driving licence but cycling?

Mrs OBumble · 06-02-2019 11:19am

beauf wrote: »

How about someone with a driving licence but cycling?

That's the third option.

I'd prefer if the person walked or caught the bus / train, because that makes for less traffic.

If they really must take a vehicle if prefer the smallest one possible given the cargo involved. Usually that would be an e-scooter or a bicycle.

I'm really not clear how ypu see shared vehicles as more traffic. Very strange.

cython · 06-02-2019 11:32am

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I support in this order:
1 Walking
2 using shared, professionally driven, vehicles
3 using individual vehicles with amateur, but at least licensed, drivers
4 using individual vehicles with amateur unlicensed drivers.

I do not at all support childres under age 12(*) operating vehicles on the road, no matter how they are powered.

(*) oveaseas I'd have said 10, but 12 is the RSA advice in this country.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

That's the third option.

No it's not, since there is no licensing for pedal cycles. They are a great equaliser in that sense.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I'd prefer if the person walked or caught the bus / train, because that makes for less traffic.

If they really must take a vehicle if prefer the smallest one possible given the cargo involved. Usually that would be an e-scooter or a bicycle.

I'm really not clear how ypu see shared vehicles as more traffic. Very strange.

However, taken at face value, the preferences you espouse (first quote above) put a single occupant car ahead of a bicycle. That is more traffic and (more importantly) more congestion every time.

beauf · 06-02-2019 11:42am

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

That's the third option.

I'd prefer if the person walked or caught the bus / train, because that makes for less traffic.

If they really must take a vehicle if prefer the smallest one possible given the cargo involved. Usually that would be an e-scooter or a bicycle.

I'm really not clear how ypu see shared vehicles as more traffic. Very strange.

eScooters can't be licensed its not a class of vehicle. An eMoped maybe.
Cars cause traffic no matter how many people you have in them.

https://humantransit.org/2012/09/the-photo-that-explains-almost-everything.html

TheQuietFella · 06-02-2019 12:11pm

It will come to a point eventually where public traffic will be banned from cities and towns. Irish cities and towns were not designed to cater for such volumes of traffic.

In Berlin for example deliveries are made to a depot on the outskirts of the city and then delivered by a smaller unit to the stores! There's forward thinking for you!

Fighting Tao · 06-02-2019 12:22pm

TheQuietFella wrote: »

In Berlin for example deliveries are made to a depot on the outskirts of the city and then delivered by a smaller unit to the stores! There's forward thinking for you!

UPS are doing this in Dublin to an extent. They’re parking containers just outside the city centre and dispatching deliveries from them using electric assisted pedal mini van type contraptions.

beauf · 06-02-2019 12:32pm

Peak is woeful now in Dublin. I just avoid whole areas at certain times. Going some places and appointments are just no longer an option..

TheQuietFella · 06-02-2019 1:52pm

And then people complain about the punctuality of public transport!
The reasons are out there but the majority are not down to public transport!

Duckjob · 06-02-2019 3:23pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Yes.

So the kids should be WALKING not using wheely things.

This isn't two-wheels good, four wheels bad.

It's don't wheel when walking will do the trick.

Walking also includes the kids whose parents cannot afford bikes. Its kinder to everyone and needs less supervision. What's not to love.

Clearly you love walking - good for you. No offence, but who are you to say that other people and their kids should be walking not cycling ?

At the end of the day, they're all healthy activities which is what is needed to reverse the lazy obese trend in our society.

doiredoire · 06-02-2019 4:17pm

Just have read this thread and I have to say it is one of the most petty, mean spirited threads I have read in a long time.

Getting young kids out on bikes in a safe, supervised environment, what's not to like?

Having 60 kids cycling to school is a complete win win situation. You are taking cars off the road so there is less congestion and pollution. The kids are getting fitter, learning road craft which will make them safer cyclists and safer drivers in the future. Physical exercise also increases physical and mental health.

Yet many of this thread want to stop the kids from cycling. Bizarre

beauf · 06-02-2019 6:16pm

Actually they want to stop everyone from cycling. Makes it harder to create traffic jams. Without cyclists it would be much easier.

what_traffic · 06-02-2019 7:20pm

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I support in this order:
1 Walking
2 using shared, professionally driven, vehicles
3 using individual vehicles with amateur, but at least licensed, drivers
4 using individual vehicles with amateur unlicensed drivers.

I do not at all support childres under age 12(*) operating vehicles on the road, no matter how they are powered.

(*) oveaseas I'd have said 10, but 12 is the RSA advice in this country.

You read like claddaghswan on twitter? #walkingFirst
https://twitter.com/claddaghswan

Fighting Tao · 06-02-2019 7:59pm

Walking first is all well and good for short journeys for people with time, but not for travelling any distance. Especially for the little legs of kids whose parents have abandoned them which strangers while they drive to work. Travelling by bike can make journeys much faster and people including kids can travel much further. So #screwWalkingFirstUnlessItIsPratical.

magicbastarder · 11-02-2019 9:23pm

an example, were one needed, that students could benefit from this:

Some teens’ cardiovascular health akin to that of 60-year-olds
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/some-teens-cardiovascular-health-akin-to-that-of-60-year-olds-1.3788969

Corca Baiscinn · 11-02-2019 9:56pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

an example, were one needed, that students could benefit from this:

Some teens’ cardiovascular health akin to that of 60-year-olds
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/some-teens-cardiovascular-health-akin-to-that-of-60-year-olds-1.3788969

Spokesperson from Irish Heart Foundation discussed it on the Hard Shoulder this evening and Ivan as usual slagged her re the Nanny State. He seems to think a serious non jokey discussion would bore his listeners

RacoonQueen · 28-02-2019 9:40am

Now we've got a scooter train in Dublin

https://twitter.com/stclares1803/status/1100761789116100608

Pinch Flat · 28-02-2019 9:47am

Love it

Ray Bloody Purchase · 28-02-2019 1:32pm

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Now we've got a scooter train in Dublin

https://twitter.com/stclares1803/status/1100761789116100608

That's fantastic.

Lord Glentoran · 28-02-2019 1:42pm

Ray Bloody Purchase wrote: »

That's fantastic.

I imagine in a few years time any kid that makes their own way to school without either Mammy’s Taxi or being part of The Collective will be taken into care.

28-02-2019 2:31pm

Lord Glentoran wrote: »

I imagine in a few years time any kid that makes their own way to school without either Mammy’s Taxi or being part of The Collective will be taken into care.

What's the point you are trying to make?

05-03-2019 11:34pm

From the Galway Cycle Bus Facebook page

Numbers for February:

239 individual trips over 13 days. (midterm break in Feb)
Over 380km travelled
Average of 18 children per day
1 cancellation due to ice
1 cancellation due to high winds
1 rainy commute

Cycle train

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