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Handwriting decipher thread *must post link to full page*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭ath262


    Mountrivers House

    funeral to Aghabullogue


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭JDERIC2017


    ath262 wrote: »
    Mountrivers House

    funeral to Aghabullogue




    Is Mountrivers house in cork?


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭ath262


    JDERIC2017 wrote: »
    Is Mountrivers house in cork?


    there are several - including one in Co. Cork, see Landed Estates.ie

    what year is the death notice ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭ath262


    the word after Mountrivers House looks like Rylane, a village in Co. Cork north east of Macroom - maybe another Cork Mountrivers ?

    make more sense in this case than the Carrigaline Mountrivers and it's in Aghabullogue civil parish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭ath262


    from Lewis Directory for Aghabulogue parish Co. Cork 'Mountrivers N. Whiting esq.'


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  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭JDERIC2017


    ath262 wrote: »
    there are several - including one in Co. Cork, see Landed Estates.ie

    what year is the death notice ?
    1913


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭chooseusername




  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭ath262


    JDERIC2017 wrote: »
    1913


    Death register gives age as 69, Macroom district place of death Mounttrivers - so the Agahbullogue one. There are townlands named Rylane and Mountrivers in the parish.


    Rylane townland & village on Logainm, Mountrivers townland is nearby, historic OS maps show the house


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭JDERIC2017


    ath262 wrote: »
    Death register gives age as 69, Macroom district place of death Mounttrivers - so the Agahbullogue one. There are townlands named Rylane and Mountrivers in the parish.


    Rylane townland & village on Logainm, Mountrivers townland is nearby, historic OS maps show the house




    Thanks for the help everyone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭louis346789


    Hi All.
    This is from an old burial record.
    Looking for ideas on the name of the Mullan who was buried on the 6th May 1791.
    Thank you.
    Louis


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  • Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭stopthevoting


    Jacobus (James)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    Jacobus (James)

    Yes, remarkably clear for 230 years old, unless it was copied subsequently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭louis346789


    It's a lovely manuscript of approx 40 pages. It's the original. I photographed the pages today in the Ofiach library Armagh.a special word of thanks to the curator Mr Roddy Hegarty for facilitating me.
    Thanks for deciphering James Mullen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Mick Tator


    I don't envy you with Mullen. One of my 2nd great grandmothers was one, from Coleraine On her marriage cert she is Mullen and her father is McMullin: the family often used Mullan and Mullins. Spread the net wide!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    I photographed the pages today in the Ofiach library Armagh.a special word of thanks to the curator Mr Roddy Hegarty for facilitating me.
    Change of personnel since I was there, is Bernard still there?
    It's good to hear that it is open, I wish libraries and archives down here would cop on and reopen also.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭louis346789


    Hi All
    More help please.
    The person burial on 2 Dec 1824 in Dromiskin
    I wish it is a Mullen.
    Looks more like millar though.

    However no people called Miller in the Griffith.
    Louis


  • Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭stopthevoting


    For the surname, as you say, I think it is Miller/Millar, not Mullen.
    I think the second-last letter is probably E rather than A.

    For the first name, it could be Richd for Richard.
    That would be the letters R I C H followed by a superscript D.

    I considered Michl for Michael, but the first letter does not seem to be M,
    and the superscript does not look like L.

    I also considered Patck for Patrick, but what should be a T is not crossed,
    and there does appear to be a dot for a letter I, and a superscript letter D at the end,
    and anyway it would usually be Patk rather than Patck.

    So of these three names, I think Richd. is the most likely,
    even though the R is difficult to make out and looks like it is two separate characters rather than one letter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭louis346789


    I also had it as Richard.
    Thank you for helping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey



    However no people called Miller in the Griffith.
    Louis

    Did you try the tithe applotments ( national archives of Ireland genealogy website)?, Much closer to 1824. A family of Millars could have emigrated by the time Griffith's men got to dromiskin.
    Definitely Rich[ar]d Millar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    There is a Richard Miller (protestant) listed on the 1766 Religious Census index for Dromiskin parish, Co. Louth.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭louis346789


    Hi thanks for this. I forgot to check the religious census. Yes Millar is a local name.
    Louis


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,612 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Entry 498, is that middle name Wilhelmina or similar?

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01361/1561285.pdf

    She gave W N as her middle initials at marriage (UK BMD index)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes that looks right. Maybe Wilhemina, as I can't see a second letter L.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    Could it be Millicent?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1904/01806/1707759.pdf

    Entry 154, any thoughts on middle name Elizabeth ? Murphy

    Was thinking Mary but seems to be too many characters.

    TIA


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,430 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    it seems like Mary to me, given the way in which he writes A's - 155 informant Mary or 156 Lawrence and Sarah as examples - a loop before a descender (he just hadnt connected the 2 as well), and he seems to've made an extra effort in looping the first part of the r, making it look like more letters, but not (imo)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Hmm, that's a little tough. It's probably Mary but there is an extra loop. Several other examples of Mary on the page.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users Posts: 399 ✭✭VirginiaB


    The capital M looks different from the others on the page which all have a line starting at the bottom of the line. Could it be a W or an N? I've played around with this and am stumped.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,107 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I would be pretty sure it's Mary.
    Looking at other pages, he is not always consistent with his initial Ms.

    I have separated out the letters of what he has written.

    557148.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    Comparing it with 150 the mother, Mary Briscoe, it looks the same, big vote for Mary from me too.


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