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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭r439z5ifwt8soq


    Posting on behalf of my wife (doesn’t have boards account).

    I’d really appreciate if someone could answer the below:

    “I havn’t done a competency based interview in a long number of years.

    Can someone advise please for the AP interview will they go “give us your leadership example”, then questions on that, then they move on to the next competency, and so on through the interview?

    Is that how the interview is structured or is it more free form and a flowing discussion?”

    Thanks a million in advance !!

    It's generally not as simple of just saying "tell us about competency 1" and then moving on,

    In my experience, questions relating to the each competency will be asked in the context of your current work, or something to give it a bit more relevance.

    The interviewers don't want to have a situation where someone has learned off a script and hasn't actually done the work, so they will probably end up asking a couple of questions as you go through your example.

    At the same time, they are not out to 'catch you out' either, so there won't be any trick questions. The main thing as an interviewee is to know what is expected under each competency


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Posting on behalf of my wife (doesn’t have boards account).

    I’d really appreciate if someone could answer the below:

    “I havn’t done a competency based interview in a long number of years.

    Can someone advise please for the AP interview will they go “give us your leadership example”, then questions on that, then they move on to the next competency, and so on through the interview?

    Is that how the interview is structured or is it more free form and a flowing discussion?”

    Thanks a million in advance !!

    The last few I've done, they've told me which member of the 3-person interview board will be asking me about each competency and been clear about each one when they move on to it. They will ask supplementary questions to clarify/probe, but as the previous poster said, it's more to verify you've done the work and not to trip you up or catch you out. I've had a couple of exceptions to this in specialist/particular job competitions but the main AP panel interviews all followed that format. I'd say roughly 80% of the time I've been able to use the examples I used in the application, and the rest they've asked for an additional or different example.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 Northern Sound


    poundhound wrote: »
    No written memo required.
    You have to analyse e-mails in your inbox, prioritise tasks, reply, delegate, schedule meetings but avoid conflicts in your calendar etc. all within a very limited time.

    I would be grateful if someone could give more detail on the ETray , what are you presented with ? What advise would you give after doing it ? Thanks for the help


  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭HannahR31


    I would be grateful if someone could give more detail on the ETray , what are you presented with ? What advise would you give after doing it ? Thanks for the help

    I don't know if the scenario will be exactly the same but the set-up should be similar. You basically login and you are presented with a wall of text to read which explains the situation you are in. It will tell you what organisation you work for, and who you are (it may give you a name different than your own in which case make sure you sign off emails as that person), and what is going on.

    Make sure you read this carefully - it will be available during the eTray but you don't want to waste any time once the timer starts.

    Then you're presented with an email inbox that is 'your inbox' where you will get emails, be able to upload/submit documents, send emails etc. Usually there are a few emails waiting for you to deal with and you might have some arrive as you do it as well.

    The best advice I can give is to just put yourself into the situation as much as you can. Pretend it's real life and act as you would if you were just doing the job. Don't feel you have to do everything - they also want to see that you delegate appropriately. You will be told who your staff so you can send things on asking others to do them or get back to you.

    Hope that makes sense!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Taxing Tom


    Hi there, sorry if this is covered before but I am new to boards.ie.
    I got placed on the two panels for AP tax specialist. Are the place numbers for each the placing for the particular region I selected only or how does it work?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭try_again


    Well done on getting placed - there is another thread on the Revenue AP comp so you might learn more there. I'd say it's probably an overall placing and you might get a Regional one later - but really the only way to know for sure is to ask them. They are generally very good at answering queries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭RWC15champions


    Outside of Dublin do we know of any other counties that have been called for video interview/etray?
    I see mention of Kildare and Westmeath earlier in the thread but I'm wondering if any other areas have been called.
    And anyone that's been called in other counties, is it the same score of 126 or above or has a lower score been used?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Had my internal second interview and presentation on Friday. Took 2 hours in total, was exhausted afterwards. No idea how it went and to be honest even if I were to get placed on a panel there is no realistic chance of a vacancy coming up that would suit me.

    Just in case anyone has a modicum of interest on how it panned out for my internal AP journey, here's how it went. Filled out form and survived shortlisting and called for a first interview. Passed that and through to the above second interview and presentation. Today I found out I passed those too and received a very high position on an internal panel. I'm completely shocked to be honest, delighted with the result. Unfortunately the prospects of getting a post are slim but I've surprised myself at least. I suppose what I'm saying is keep plugging away. This was my 4th AP campaign overall and I've eventually been placed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Congrats on that! I've passed the interview and failed the e-tray; passed the e-tray and failed the interview; and failed the management questions in the supervised tests that I'd passed in the unsupervised, and in the previous two campaigns... one of these years, I'll pass them all in the one campaign!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Congrats on that! I've passed the interview and failed the e-tray; passed the e-tray and failed the interview; and failed the management questions in the supervised tests that I'd passed in the unsupervised, and in the previous two campaigns... one of these years, I'll pass them all in the one campaign!

    I think you've hit the nail on the head, it's about putting the whole set together. The first round interview for me was the most bizarre. Genuinely felt dejected afterwards, but received really high marks. I'm hoping for a run now in this campaign. Best of luck to all.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Brera


    Just got the dreaded txt from PAS to say the results for the second batch video interviews are out.

    As expected I didn’t get past the management experience question.

    It would have been nice to have gotten a score on the other questions just to know for future applications but I guess they want to get the process carried out as quick as possible.

    I hope everyone else got on ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    Online interview results out
    Relieved to get through. I am surprised it was that quick


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 Pdbtsi


    Passed the video interviews - quite shocked, actually! And all moving much quicker than I thought it would.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Nicole2020


    Brera wrote: »
    Just got the dreaded txt from PAS to say the results for the second batch video interviews are out.

    As expected I didn’t get past the management experience question.

    It would have been nice to have gotten a score on the other questions just to know for future applications but I guess they want to get the process carried out as quick as possible.

    I hope everyone else got on ok.

    Sorry to hear that, next time!


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Nicole2020


    I got through as well, delighted!

    Do the scores mean anything in the video round after this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    Nicole2020 wrote: »
    I got through as well, delighted!

    Do the scores mean anything in the video round after this?


    Congrats ! - No it has no bearing on the final result. It is just a means of shortlisting for the next stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭HannahR31


    Prepping for my interview - I'm trying to remember which is the competency which they normally don't properly examine during the interview? I remember that usually at the start they say which of them are going to be examining which competencies and that 'the competency X will be examined during the other competencies but won't be questioned separately' = I can't remember though is it Interpersonal and Communication Skills or Drive and Commitment to Public Service Values.

    Anybody know for certain?


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Ap2020


    HannahR31 wrote: »
    Prepping for my interview - I'm trying to remember which is the competency which they normally don't properly examine during the interview? I remember that usually at the start they say which of them are going to be examining which competencies and that 'the competency X will be examined during the other competencies but won't be questioned separately' = I can't remember though is it Interpersonal and Communication Skills or Drive and Commitment to Public Service Values.

    Anybody know for certain?

    It's drive and commitment


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Nicole2020


    CBCB wrote: »
    Congrats ! - No it has no bearing on the final result. It is just a means of shortlisting for the next stage.

    Brilliant! I did ok but by no means amazing so good to know :) thank you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭HannahR31


    Ap2020 wrote: »
    It's drive and commitment

    Thank you!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Skulls


    Nicole2020 wrote: »
    Sorry to hear that, next time!

    Ah..it sucks at times. What type of stuff did you say, can you remember? Some of us might be able to give you tips then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Nicole2020


    Skulls wrote: »
    Ah..it sucks at times. What type of stuff did you say, can you remember? Some of us might be able to give you tips then.

    Was this for Brera?


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    Nicole2020 wrote: »
    Brilliant! I did ok but by no means amazing so good to know :) thank you!

    You got through. That's all that matters!


  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Brera


    Skulls wrote: »
    Ah..it sucks at times. What type of stuff did you say, can you remember? Some of us might be able to give you tips then.

    I’m going to have to go back and look over what I said. I had written it down and have recordings practicing it.

    I kind of wasn’t too surprised as I don’t have much experience on managing large teams of people.

    At least I have experience of the process now for next time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Nicole2020


    CBCB wrote: »
    You got through. That's all that matters!

    Exactly, thank you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Skulls


    Brera wrote: »
    I’m going to have to go back and look over what I said. I had written it down and have recordings practicing it.

    I kind of wasn’t too surprised as I don’t have much experience on managing large teams of people.

    At least I have experience of the process now for next time.

    I don't think it is so much large teams that matter. More so that you have to be flexible, delegate, coach and mentor, get the best out of teams, use their skills, review and monitor. See the bigger picture.


  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭InsideEdge


    Just in case anyone has a modicum of interest on how it panned out for my internal AP journey, here's how it went. Filled out form and survived shortlisting and called for a first interview. Passed that and through to the above second interview and presentation. Today I found out I passed those too and received a very high position on an internal panel. I'm completely shocked to be honest, delighted with the result. Unfortunately the prospects of getting a post are slim but I've surprised myself at least. I suppose what I'm saying is keep plugging away. This was my 4th AP campaign overall and I've eventually been placed.
    Well done Mervyn, that's a fantastic achievement! Hopefully, there will be a position for you if you are that high up on the panel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭HannahR31


    Just did my remote interview there - don't think it went well at all! Just wasn't on form - but sure at least it's over!


  • Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    HannahR31 wrote: »
    Just did my remote interview there - don't think it went well at all! Just wasn't on form - but sure at least it's over!

    well done for doing it. I think it's really hard to tell how it went so fingers crossed for you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Herriott


    HannahR31 wrote: »
    Just did my remote interview there - don't think it went well at all! Just wasn't on form - but sure at least it's over!

    Well done for getting through it. At least zoom worked! I've mine this week and hoping the bledy internet holds up.


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