General Elections. The Constituency of Tipperary

Water John wrote: »

Well it's better to be used for pumped hydro rather than as a national dump, as promoted years ago.

Absolutely. I'm for the project. It's just the fears over the lead levels in the soil and what disturing the soil in that area by developing on it could do that is the concern. As well as the potential for more mine shaft collapses.

mahoney_j wrote: »

As I said before I’m from the area and also farming there so know more than I ever wanted to about lead in soil etc this project is back up on the hill the lead problem is back down below the village from a lead perspective I’d have no worries there the shafts are also below the proposed site .
Hopefully this gets the go ahead and the whole area is tidied up

There are shafts alongside the site also. Lead is an issue along by Garryard area too. Caused issues in 2018. Anyway ironing out these issues is all part of the process. Will be great for village and surrounding area if it gets the green light.

Lowry is the Trump of Tipperary. He could shoot someone on the main street of Thurles and still top the poll in North Tipp.

Mattie will run for at least one more term. Mairin isn't ready to replace him yet. He is hugely popular in South Tipp and as really the only TD active in the south he will hold his seat (yes I know Browne is based in the South but that's where "active" comes in. He barely registers a heartbeat).

SF will keep the seat but I hear they plan a "running mate" for Browne which in reality is to replace Browne who they are more than slightly embarrassed by. SF could have run a dead donkey and still taken a seat with the momentum behind them. Browne pretty much proved that. There are a number of local SF people eyeing the seat but HQ have picked a "celeb" candidate (i.e. in Tipp that means an All Ireland Winner). Healy is still hanging in there but is a beaten man.

Agree Kelly is probably safe. Being a party leader will give him the profile to keep going. FF recruiting and running a Labour Nenagh candidate in Farrell didn't dislodge him so nothing will.

Cahill is in serious trouble and his seat is in play. This is the battle that is interesting. FG and specifically Gareth Aherne have targeted his seat. With Kate O'Connell's sister now effectively gone from politics (their local organisation have made it clear to HQ that they will not tolerate any more candidates being parachuted in) that means the vote won't be split and Aherne will have a clear run at Cahill. FF may try to respond by only running Cahill as a single candidate also as the three candidate strategy has failed (Goldsboro failed to come across well on the doorsteps in a very clear example that using a photo-shopped image from 20 years ago for your posters is a risky strategy when you also plan to go out and meet people and Farrell couldn't rally enough support in the local FF party being as she was a Labour candidate). Ambrose is still the obvious candidate from the south in a two candidate strategy but in many ways she is a busted flush as Mattie has her base wrapped up. Smith Jr is still holding out hope of inheriting his daddy's seat but even his daddy has given up on him at this stage. Plus he gave some media interviews where he came across as a spoilt child after losing the nomination so that's him done. So it is likely to be Cahill and some no hope Cllr from the south (possibly Ambrose) who unfortunately won't attract enough votes to transfer to him to allow him beat Aherne.

So it looks like Lowry, McGrath, Kelly, The SF hurler and Aherne.

Liamo57 wrote: »

Jesus, thats some choice above. Cutehoorism is very much alive and well in Tipp.

Why did you quote the first post?
Yes Lowry, Mattie arent great
Browne is non existent. Who would you want in their place?

Alexia Beautiful Baton wrote: »

what is the problem with Browne?

Do we need to answer that ,he is way out of his depth ,poor speaker and poor understanding of politics and how it works heard him on tipp fm some time back re the apple tax ,just go get it back .....no understanding of that .he got in purely because he was the only sf person running people voted blindly for him ,he lost his town council seat a year previous no a sf voter or supporter but pity Seamus Morris was with the party he’d of been guaranteed a seat on merit and would of made a great td

I voted for Martin Browne and personally I'm satisfied so far with what I've seen of him, between an issue I support and a small business I do some work for. Some people are happy with Mattie/Lowry/Cahill/Kelly I guess it's just the circles you move in.

It'll be interesting to see how the hurler gets on, celebrity candidates haven't really worked well for FG but a seat is a seat.

Alexia Beautiful Baton wrote: »

Who is the hurler?

I thought from the other post that the hurler was hypothetical. I.e. that Sinn Fein would run a celebrity, and the other poster was guessing it would be a hurler

I’m no sf voter but to be fair to them, they don’t tend to run ‘celebrity’ candidates.

I've heard a lot of FF, FG and Labour members make similar comments about Browne. To be fair, he is not the most polished politician, but as a first time TD I think he is doing a pretty good job. He broke the news about the HSE stopping testing in meat processing locations, I heard a small business owner in Golden on Tipp FM thanking Browne for getting the HSE to undertake testing for their staff to help their businesses reputation, he seems to be out meeting communities and farming groups. It's 6 months since the election and we have been through Covid lockdown. I think Browne is doing a good job all things considered and he will only get stronger as he gets trained up by the party. If he can get the likes of Matt Carthy in to the constituency to support farmers too it will help his case too.

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Jackie Cahill highly critical of Leo actions last week got absolutely stung into a vote of no confidence this week and had to tow the party line seemingly, why do some of these lads even bother to pretend they are principled??

You join a political, but obligations comes with joining, in return for the exposure of being a member.

He can talk all he wants but he has to toe the party line or else try it alone like Michael Lowry and Mattie McGrath.

Dymo wrote: »

You join a political, but obligations comes with joining, in return for the exposure of being a member.

He can talk all he wants but he has to toe the party line or else try it alone like Michael Lowry and Mattie McGrath.

No point talking and getting airtime when theres absolutely zero substance to it, he wanted to be seen to criticize. Same man was over in Cheltenham at the start of the pandemic.

Lowry has been towing the FG line from a distance if you haven't noticed. Mattie didn't leave FF, FF left him...his own words.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40187748.html

Any news with this?

wonder who the second could be? Martin Browne didn't exactly sail in comfortably so they risk splitting the vote with a 2 candidate strategy. D Dunne would get almost every vote in Carrick town but is he as well known outside the division? T Black from the same area as Browne

The length of the current Dáil could be an interesting factor - will we have a general election or a local election first?