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Miss America waves bye bye to bikinis

  • 05-06-2018 5:04pm
    #1
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭


    While I was never really a big fan (or any kind of fan) of this kind of 'beauty pageant'...And I can only really encourage this kind of development in this day and age...

    But...I dunno....seems to me it'd have been better to say : we've realised we're not really relevant or PC in this day and age....so we're closing up shop and calling it quits.

    Is this just a desperate move to cling on to the last bit of life and overcome the scandal from last year?
    The Miss America beauty pageant is scrapping its swimwear segment and will no longer judge competitors on physical appearance.

    The evening gown section is also being axed, with contestants asked to wear something that makes them feel good and expresses their personal style instead....
    "We will no longer judge our candidates on their outwards, physical appearance. ....
    "We are no longer a pageant," said Carlson, the first former Miss America to be named chair of the board of trustees of the Miss America organisation.

    "We are a competition."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-44370240


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  • #2
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    What do the contestants themselves think about it?

    We see a lot choice being taken away from young beautiful women these days.

    F1 grid girls and PDC darts walk on models put out of a job for instance. A job they enjoyed and a job they wanted to do.

    Denied the right to earn. What is it? Jealousy? Prudishness?


  • #3
    Try_harder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    They can be online influencers and get on Love Island


  • #4
    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    So will big buck-tooth sweaty Betty from Delaware be in with a shout next year?


  • #5
    metaoblivia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    Considering this is a scholarship competition, I don't have a problem with it. And for competitions that focus on beauty, there's still Miss USA, where the winner then goes on to compete in the Miss Universe pageant. That's the pageant that really focuses on beauty, so there's plenty of opportunity for beautiful women still.


  • #6
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    metaoblivia wrote: »
    And for competitions that focus on beauty, there's still Miss USA, where the winner then goes on to compete in the Miss Universe pageant. That's the pageant that really focuses on beauty, so there's plenty of opportunity for beautiful women still.

    I didn't even know they weren't the same :o


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  • #7
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Surely looks will still figure though?


  • #8
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Surely looks will still figure though?

    Nope. Allegedly :
    "We will no longer judge our candidates on their outwards, physical appearance.

    :confused:


  • #9
    metaoblivia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    wexie wrote: »
    I didn't even know they weren't the same :o

    I have a feeling a lot of people don't. ;)
    I actually really like this move by Miss America because it makes a greater distinction between the two pageants (well, Miss America is calling itself a competition now).


  • #10
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Miss America goes on to compete in Miss World doesn't she? So I presume the swimsuits will still remain.


  • #11
    metaoblivia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Miss America goes on to compete in Miss World doesn't she? So I presume the swimsuits will still remain.

    No, they don't have to. Miss USA contestants have competed in both Miss World and Miss Universe.


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  • #12
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    wexie wrote: »
    Nope. Allegedly :



    :confused:

    Yeah, but looks will still figure, let’s be honest here. It will just go unsaid.


  • #13
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • #14
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    Yeah, but looks will still figure, let’s be honest here. It will just go unsaid.

    That's awful presumptuous of you Dara and, dare I say it, sexist

    :D


  • #15
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    wexie wrote: »
    That's awful presumptuous of you Dara and, dare I say it, sexist

    :D

    It’s probably sexist. It’s also the goddamn truth! :pac:

    It’s kinda like how there are only fairly general guidelines for what modelling agencies are looking for but reading between the lines, they are looking for the top tier of good-looking, tall, thin people (unless you’re a celebrity kid, of course).


  • #16
    metaoblivia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    It’s probably sexist. It’s also the goddamn truth! :pac:

    It’s kinda like how there are only fairly general guidelines for what modelling agencies are looking for but reading between the lines, they are looking for the top tier of good-looking, tall, thin people (unless you’re a celebrity kid, of course).

    We'll find out soon enough. The first thing I'll be interested to see is if any plus-sized contestants make it through...

    (also, just for fun, compare the current Miss America - Cara Mund - to the current Miss USA - Sarah Rose Summers. Miss America has been heading down this path for a while)


  • #17
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Imagine being a horny auld lad back in the day, and this was probably a year worth of **** material.


  • #18
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The puritans are winning


  • #19
    Grayson
    Registered Users Posts: 16,106 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    The puritans are winning

    They won a few hundred years ago. Have you ever seen a country as scared of janet jacksons nipple?


  • #20
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    The puritans are winning

    complete disaster , common theme now that celebrating physical beauty is now seen as a bad thing.


  • #21
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    I can see the headlines ‘Minger wins Miss America!’


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  • #22
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    What do the contestants themselves think about it?

    We see a lot choice being taken away from young beautiful women these days.

    F1 grid girls and PDC darts walk on models put out of a job for instance. A job they enjoyed and a job they wanted to do.

    Denied the right to earn. What is it? Jealousy? Prudishness?

    Well, like, it’s not like the only jobs open to these girls are looks-related ones. And actually, being good-looking is a probably an advantage for job-hunting many different jobs, even subconsciously.


  • #23
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users Posts: 3,846 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Thread title a bit of a disappointment, I thought they were going to be in the nip


  • #24
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,557 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    To be honest, it’s always been about the looks, the 5”10 slender beauties, the pearly white smiles, the perfect bone structure, the perfect facial symmetry. Be the tanned leggy blondes, svelte brunettes, stunning Asian beauties, black princesses...etc.

    It’s funny in a way, just as prettty much everyone here on Boards wants rid of the Rose Of Tralee shenanigans at this stage, it seems the American pageants are going the other way - becoming - well pretending to anyway - become more of a sort of “lovely girls” contest. Oh the irony! :pac:

    I also presume that asking the lovely young ladies of their wishes “to bring world peace” doesn’t cut the mustard now. Will the contestants be doing their PhD Viva on their specialist topic to the judges now when asked a few questions?

    For the record, America was always very prudish - they equate nudity with sex and also this ridiculous notion (well for me as a gay man) that it’s fine for a young woman to wear a super skimpy string bikini on the beach but men must wear knee length baggy “board” shorts. Double standards if you ask me...

    Believe you me...a hot toned hunk of a man can look very good in speedos - that’s why we gay guys (and plenty on Continental European guys still) tend to shun in the soggy shorts and wear form fitting briefs. If you’ve got the body, flaunt it!!:D


  • #25
    Stigura
    Registered Users Posts: 3,408 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Miss World 2025


    tn_pic.jpg




  • #26
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    They are effectively killing the Miss America competition.
    Tbh, I don't mind at all, stupid competition.


  • #27
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    The puritans are winning

    Wrapped up in the blanket of liberalism and Equality to trick the masses

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • #28
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    paw patrol wrote: »
    complete disaster , common theme now that celebrating physical beauty is now seen as a bad thing.

    The wife comes down the stairs in a stunning dress ready for dinner.

    "Darling, you look absolutely beautiful"

    She replies with a slap to the face. "How dare you call me beautiful you knuckle dragging pig"

    This will be real In a few years


  • #29
    Mister Vain
    Registered Users Posts: 6,037 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    It's worse its getting. They don't even have grid girls in Mondello park anymore. Bastids!


  • #30
    pxdf9i5cmoavkz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭pxdf9i5cmoavkz


    Ever closer we creep towards some bizarre combination of terrible *ism's.

    When you strip the concept down to its essentials, a beauty contest is basically someone saying "I'm going to create a voluntary contest based on an arbitrary set of rules and principles, and award the contest based on which contestant best approximates these principles." Then people voluntarily join. Then people like SJW's are like "no some of these principles are wrong"

    In a liberal society characterised by freedom of association, we should tolerate voluntary associations that we might not like ourselves. And it just feels to me like "we should get better as a society" is often euphemism for "we should take people's individual freedom away"

    The left are misguided:
    Possibly Plato wrote:
    An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.


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  • #31
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 17,838 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    they will just change a dumb format for another one where a bunch probably not the most intelligent women in the world bang on about empowerment and social justice cos that's easy. They should have a format that rewards brains and general badassery. "and our next contestant Miss Texas built her own airplane...."

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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