N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

kravmaga · 30-12-2019 8:02pm

theguzman wrote: »

I wonder if they will put anti-Aircraft warning lights on it? The foggy picture there had me thinking some idiot in a Helicopter or Cessna could crash into it.

They have ACB's (aviation anti- collision beacons on the bridge) red in colour

m17 · 31-12-2019 12:30pm

It's been confirm that new Ross bypass will open on the 3rd week of January 20 Leo varadkar will cut the ribbon

road_high · 31-12-2019 1:55pm

Taoiseach is serious pain in the hole that wants to muscle in on every photo opp. Presume the opening had to be scheduled to fit his diary also. I don’t remember this being a big thing with the big motorway openings a decade ago. Was mainly the transport minister of the day and that was it. Wonder will he belittle Verona Murphy again while he’s on her home turf again?

josip · 31-12-2019 2:50pm

road_high wrote: »

Taoiseach is serious pain in the hole that wants to muscle in on every photo opp. Presume the opening had to be scheduled to fit his diary also. I don’t remember this being a big thing with the big motorway openings a decade ago. Was mainly the transport minister of the day and that was it. Wonder will he belittle Verona Murphy again while he’s on her home turf again?

Memory might be due a service road_high

road_high · 31-12-2019 2:56pm

Did they go to ever single one though? On my local motorway M9 I don’t think any Taoiseach (Cowen or Ahern) were at the ribbon cutting?

marno21 · 31-12-2019 3:22pm

Those 2 were landmarks though, the M4 scheme was the biggest motorway project in the history of the state at the time and the other one was the final missing link in the M8 Cork-Dublin motorway

However, if you are able to attend every road project opening and sod turning, and even able to turn up to the signing of a contract to design, not build, a motorway, perhaps it's a sign that you might not be doing enough on infrastructure.

blindsider · 31-12-2019 3:37pm

https://www.kilkennycoco.ie/eng/Publications/Council_News/Photos_of_Opening_of_M9_Waterford_to_Knocktopher_Motorway.15893.shortcut.html

Noel Dempsey opened the final section of the quietest motorway in Europe (heard that on the radio recently but don't have access to figures). The M9 opened stage by stage between 1994 and 2010.

There are very few major projects opening at the moment so I can see how the PR value of this one is so high.

As for V Murphy....might be best to keep politics on another thread......

road_high · 31-12-2019 3:41pm

blindsider wrote: »

https://www.kilkennycoco.ie/eng/Publications/Council_News/Photos_of_Opening_of_M9_Waterford_to_Knocktopher_Motorway.15893.shortcut.html

Noel Dempsey opened the final section of the quietest motorway in Europe (heard that on the radio recently but don't have access to figures). The M9 opened stage by stage between 1994 and 2010.

There are very few major projects opening at the moment so I can see how the PR value of this one is so high.

As for V Murphy....might be best to keep politics on another thread......

Exactly- the record of investment is painfully sparse so every morsel is used to maximise PR- which is what Varadkar is all about.

As for the M9 no it’s not Europe’s or even Ireland’s quietest motorway- NRA traffic figures have long since debunked that myth

Harry Palmr · 31-12-2019 3:48pm

M9 just gets a bad rap because it was added to the other three big "Dublin to the regions" Mways and isn't tolled.

road_high · 31-12-2019 3:51pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

M9 just gets a bad rap because it was added to the other three big "Dublin to the regions" Mways and isn't tolled.

The M9 has been a tremendous success and has transformed the south east which had a terrible road network. The only thing I would have done differently was branch the M8 into the M9 at Kilkenny to save costs for elsewhere but maybe now a good thing as such a road would be heading for overcapacity already

marno21 · 31-12-2019 3:52pm

The quietest motorway in Ireland is in Co. Galway, the M17 near Tuam. The second quietest is the M9 between the two Kilkenny junctions, the rest is much higher

road_high · 31-12-2019 3:56pm

marno21 wrote: »

The quietest motorway in Ireland is in Co. Galway, the M17 near Tuam. The second quietest is the M9 between the two Kilkenny junctions, the rest is much higher

Those two section junctions are understandably quieter as they exclude most of the Kilkenny to Waterford traffic and shadow the busy N10 Kk ring road. Traffic is considerably higher either side of J8 and J9. North of Carlow figures are in the daily 20ks plus

Harry Palmr · 31-12-2019 3:58pm

Perfectly logical -

Waterford-Kilkenny
Kilkenny-Dublin

will be busier than Waterford/Dublin, that'll be more so when this bridge opens even if the N30 "gap" isn't tackled for decades

road_high · 31-12-2019 4:00pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Perfectly logical -

Waterford-Kilkenny
Kilkenny-Dublin

will be busier than Waterford/Dublin, that'll be more so when this bridge opens even if the N30 "gap" isn't tackled for decades

I can’t really see it having any impact on the M9 to be honest.

Harry Palmr · 31-12-2019 4:06pm

Oh I do, big time. Only anecdotal but plenty of people seem to want to get straight to the north Wicklow Bray/Greystones/south and east Dublin area and not have to go anywhere near Naas - M50 section. Albeit that is now improved with the extra lanes.

road_high · 31-12-2019 4:14pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Oh I do, big time. Only anecdotal but plenty of people seem to want to get straight to the north Wicklow Bray/Greystones/south and east Dublin area and not have to go anywhere near Naas - M50 section. Albeit that is now improved with the extra lanes.

Maybe but I couldn’t imagine the numbers doing that are that significant are they? Majority of dublin bound traffic is airport, port, city bound- M9 is still shorter with almost all motorway vs a mix of single carriageway, dual carriageway and motorway. N11 is no picnic around Bray either! It’s 60km from Waterford to the M11 on a mix of routes and then still 120 km or so from Dublin- you’d be a long way up the M9 in comparable time and a lot closer to Dublin- there’s a lot to be said for hopping on the motorway directly on/off at Waterford.

Another thing about to the M9 is a lot of it is inter town traffic between Kilkenny and waterford, Waterford and Carlow, Carlow and Kilkenny, Carlow Kilkenny and kildare etc etc
The Waterford to Dublin only element is a probably a small % of the whole traffic figures

m17 · 31-12-2019 5:19pm

road_high wrote: »

Maybe but I couldn’t imagine the numbers doing that are that significant are they? Majority of dublin bound traffic is airport, port, city bound- M9 is still shorter with almost all motorway vs a mix of single carriageway, dual carriageway and motorway. N11 is no picnic around Bray either! It’s 60km from Waterford to the M11 on a mix of routes and then still 120 km or so from Dublin- you’d be a long way up the M9 in comparable time and a lot closer to Dublin- there’s a lot to be said for hopping on the motorway directly on/off at Waterford.

Another thing about to the M9 is a lot of it is inter town traffic between Kilkenny and waterford, Waterford and Carlow, Carlow and Kilkenny, Carlow Kilkenny and kildare etc etc
The Waterford to Dublin only element is a probably a small % of the whole traffic figures

Why are we talking about motorways when the worlds finest bridge is opening in three weeks time

Harry Palmr · 31-12-2019 5:39pm

No infrastructure stands alone!

(except those Autostradas that were built by the mafia)

Chris_5339762 · 31-12-2019 10:01pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Oh I do, big time. Only anecdotal but plenty of people seem to want to get straight to the north Wicklow Bray/Greystones/south and east Dublin area and not have to go anywhere near Naas - M50 section. Albeit that is now improved with the extra lanes.

Once New Ross is open, there will be very, very little difference in doing Bray - Cork via M11/N30/N25, rather than M11/M50/M7/M8. One less toll too, and arguably a lot more scenic.

The tipping point is somewhere just south of Glen of the Downs when it comes to time.

Hibernicis · 01-01-2020 1:20am

m17 wrote: »

It's been confirm that new Ross bypass will open on the 3rd week of January 20 Leo varadkar will cut the ribbon

That’s great news M17, thanks for posting. Shame that others were so upset by the content of your post and don’t seem to appreciate your efforts !

Happy 2020

pixbyjohn · 01-01-2020 1:25am

The bridge is controversially officially named for Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the mother of former US President John F. Kennedy by Pixbyjohn, on Flickr

Hibernicis · 01-01-2020 11:44pm

road_high wrote: »

Taoiseach is serious pain in the hole that wants to muscle in on every photo opp. Presume the opening had to be scheduled to fit his diary also. I don’t remember this being a big thing with the big motorway openings a decade ago. Was mainly the transport minister of the day and that was it. Wonder will he belittle Verona Murphy again while he’s on her home turf again?

Haven’t seen a post/rant like that since I stopped visiting politics.ie. Had he not been scheduled to open it I suspect you’d have been the first to castigate him for his arrogance in refusing to leave Dublin and visit the provinces to open this, the largest bridge of its type in the world. And the best that can be said about your final sentence is that it is totally irrelevant to this thread and forum.

Kev11491 · 02-01-2020 1:43pm

He's the taoiseach, of course he's going to be asked to open it. Why don't you go have a rant on a political site or Twitter.

Kirbstone · 02-01-2020 2:29pm

Political rants are not appropriate here.

This has been a great and inspiring project and is a fabulous addition to our National roads infrastructure. It is wholly appropriate that the Taoiseach should open it.. It will be a great day for everyone, dissenters included.

Tom K.