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Strokestown **Mod Note in Post #4461**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    HamSarris wrote: »
    They need to raise the banker salary cap to attract people with IQs above 70

    Ah I wouldn't quite put it that way. Its more a case of tunnel vision by whoever in the bank gave that the goahead. I mean they were likely looking at figures, they saw a debt that needed collection, they went looking for someone to collect it and likely found a company based in NI to do it. I'd highly doubt whoever made the sale in that company would have been rushing out of their way to highlight that they were from NI and their presence would likely inflame some memory of the Land Wars among some people based in the West of Ireland. Similarly I doubt whoever signed off on it in KBC would have also joined those dots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    So it's not terrorism then?

    The "security team" are from loyalist areas in NI, a handful of them have been identified on social media with connections to loyalist gangs despite their best efforts to disguise themselves. On the eviction video, one has denied being Irish and said he was British with a northern accent, the rest had northern accents with northern regged vans which were burnt out in the raid. This is the same balaclava gang who evicted people on North Frederick st in Dublin.
    As said before, hiring them is like a red rag to a bull. The local online newspaper in that region in it's video of the story has hundreds of supportive comments for the raid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭ Kensley Attractive Liquid


    A loyalist eviction squad dressed in paramilitary attire repo'ing anything south of the border should be strung from the highest tree & left swinging in the wind to warn off others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    klaaaz wrote: »
    The "security team" are from loyalist areas in NI, a handful of them have been identified on social media with connections to loyalist gangs despite their best efforts to disguise themselves. On the eviction video, one has denied being Irish and said he was British with a northern accent, the rest had northern accents with northern regged vans which were burnt out in the raid. This is the same balaclava gang who evicted people on North Frederick st in Dublin.
    As said before, hiring them is like a red rag to a bull. The local online newspaper in that region in it's video of the story has hundreds of supportive comments for the raid.

    If the security guards were from the republic this would still have happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Whatever bright spark in KBC thought this was the route to go down involving security from over the border to evict must be incredibly stupid. This retaliation was bound to happen.

    And if the security were from Westmeath they'd be left at peace?

    What a pointless action if ever there was one, the farm is still repossessed, only now some of the locals will be up for arson and violent assault. But sure they showed them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    klaaaz wrote: »
    On the eviction video, one has denied being Irish and said he was British with a northern accent.
    The local online newspaper in that region in it's video of the story has hundreds of supportive comments for the raid.

    Have you got a link to the video and the online paper?


  • Registered Users Posts: 80,795 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn


    How much did they owe? When did they last make payments?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    strandroad wrote: »
    And if the security were from Westmeath they'd be left at peace?

    What a pointless action if ever there was one, the farm is still repossessed, only now some of the locals will be up for arson and violent assault. But sure they showed them.

    Likely they wouldn't but you wouldn't have a groundswell of support for the vigilantes as is evident right now if they did


  • Registered Users Posts: 80,795 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn


    Effects wrote: »
    Have you got a link to the video and the online paper?


    https://t.co/zJ2IttP6B3


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Eh? From the link:

    At what point did they offer to leave voluntarily?


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  • back in 2008 when the government was going to bail out the banks they should have cut x% off all mortgages taken out between 2004 and 2008 (or something like that)

    you know if they were going to put the money in anyway and charge us all for it and cut and tax for it all anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 80,795 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn


    Can a bar hire bouncers from companies based outside Ireland to police their premises without the need to wear ID badges?
    All licensed individuals are obliged by law to wear an identity badge at all times while providing a security service. Failure to wear a badge may result in you being prosecuted and facing a fine. The identity badge must be clearly visible at all times and displayed on the upper torso (above the stomach and below the neck). The following is not acceptable:

    Hanging the badge from a belt around the waist.
    Clipping the badge behind a neck tie.
    Placing the badge in a shirt pocket or jacket pocket.
    Placing the badge under a jumper or jacket.

    Failure to wear the badge in the correct manner may result in your licence being revoked.

    https://www.psa.gov.ie/en/PSA/Pages/id_badges


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭davetherave


    mikeym wrote: »
    So its ok for people who dont have Irish Security Licences to come down to Roscommon and assault elderly people.

    I dont feel sorry for hired thugs.


    You are assuming the individuals involved don't hold a vaild psa license.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Allinall


    A loyalist eviction squad dressed in paramilitary attire repo'ing anything south of the border should be strung from the highest tree & left swinging in the wind to warn off others.

    Advocating murder?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    strandroad wrote: »
    And if the security were from Westmeath they'd be left at peace?

    What a pointless action if ever there was one, the farm is still repossessed, only now some of the locals will be up for arson and violent assault. But sure they showed them.

    Some of these security lads have been identified as loyalists and made the point on video to call themselves British. Now if you have any clue about Irish history you can see how that would go down on such a sensitive issue as repossession of a farm.

    I am not saying the locals last night did the right thing just that this kind of response was at some stage inevitable.




  • Allinall wrote: »
    At what point did they offer to leave voluntarily?

    If they are third generation on the farm its unlikely it was a mortgage that was involved here. The house looked pretty old in the video. Those boys had a long walk home last night...........


  • Registered Users Posts: 876 ✭✭✭bb12


    you need to look at the bigger picture. the government along with all their agriculture agencies actively pushed farmers over the last few years to increase output to meet their 2020 goals. they actively encouraged farmers to go to their banks to get loans to modernise their farms to increase outputs and the banks were encouraged by the government to give away money. then the milk quotas were removed so the price of milk plummeted, the beef industry is monopolised by one beef baron so that market is also now on the floor and as a result of being led up the garden path by the government and all their advisors, farmers are now losing their farms.

    the courts are not behaving the way they should be in these evictions and the rule of law is not being followed...but how does an elderly farmer from the middle of nowhere go up against this machine to obtain real justice? just look at what that guy on his farm beside intel in kildare has been put through.

    there is a 21st century land grab happening right under our noses and yet most of you still bay for blood taking the bankers sides.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    mikeym wrote: »
    So its ok for people who dont have Irish Security Licences to come down to Roscommon and assault elderly people.

    I dont feel sorry for hired thugs.
    What elderly people were assaulted?

    I disagree with them giving the job to loyalist yobs but I'd say the reaction would have been similar no matter whom. A lot of people get very angry over being told there are eventually consequences for not paying back what they owe yet continuing to avail of the service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


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  • bb12 wrote: »
    you need to look at the bigger picture. the government along with all their agriculture agencies actively pushed farmers over the last few years to increase output to meet their 2020 goals. they actively encouraged farmers to go to their banks to get loans to modernise their farms to increase outputs and the banks were encouraged by the government to give away money. then the milk quotas were removed so the price of milk plummeted, the beef industry is monopolised by one beef baron so that market is also now on the floor and as a result of being led up the garden path by the government and all their advisors, farmers are now losing their farms.

    the courts are not behaving the way they should be in these evictions and the rule of law is not being followed...but how does an elderly farmer from the middle of nowhere go up against this machine to obtain real justice? just look at what that guy on his farm beside intel in kildare has been put through.

    there is a 21st century land grab happening right under our noses and yet most of you still bay for blood taking the bankers sides.

    Government wants bigger more efficient farms and are wiping people out to do it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭hurler32


    Once it’s not happening in Dublin Fine Gael couldn’t give a toss !


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Some good level-headed and measured responses here.
    Patww79 wrote: »
    They should have been chopped up the minute they came near the property.
    Should be strung from the highest tree & left swinging in the wind to warn off others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭gctest50


    bb12 wrote: »
    you need to look at the bigger picture. the government along with all their agriculture agencies actively pushed farmers over the last few years to increase output to meet their 2020 goals. they actively encouraged farmers to go to their banks to get loans to modernise their farms to increase outputs and the banks were encouraged by the government to give away money. then the milk quotas were removed so the price of milk plummeted, the beef industry is monopolised by one beef baron so that market is also now on the floor and as a result of being led up the garden path by the government and all their advisors, farmers are now losing their farms.

    the courts are not behaving the way they should be in these evictions and the rule of law is not being followed...but how does an elderly farmer from the middle of nowhere go up against this machine to obtain real justice? just look at what that guy on his farm beside intel in kildare has been put through.

    there is a 21st century land grab happening right under our noses and yet most of you still bay for blood taking the bankers sides.



    Nobody held a shotgun to someones head and made them take out a loan

    Sheer f****ing greed on the part of those who took out loans they couldn't pay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Some good level-headed and measured responses here.

    That's what they deserve. I'm happy with my response.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭hurler32


    Some of these security lads have been identified as loyalists and made the point on video to call themselves British. Now if you have any clue about Irish history you can see how that would go down on such a sensitive issue as repossession of a farm.

    I am not saying the locals last night did the right thing just that this kind of response was at some stage inevitable.

    Many of the present government of Fine Gael .. Charlie Flanagan etc would identify themselves as British so where’s the big deal ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭ Kensley Attractive Liquid


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Some good level-headed and measured responses here.

    A level head onto the bridge of the nose for those bastards would be a measured response IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Allinall


    If they are third generation on the farm its unlikely it was a mortgage that was involved here. The house looked pretty old in the video. Those boys had a long walk home last night...........

    If they borrowed money against the house or land, then it was a mortgage, regardless of what generation they are.

    The bank would have gone through a lengthy process to arrive at this point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    hurler32 wrote: »
    Many of the present government of Fine Gael .. Charlie Flanagan etc would identify themselves as British so where’s the big deal ?
    Why on earth does he identify as British?

    Who else does?


  • Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭Bubblegummers


    Patww79 wrote: »
    That's what they deserve.

    They are in the wrong coming across a border to evict Irish men and women. BUT can you show me where any of these are loyalist paramilitaries- I find it very hard to believe. Also chopping people up really, are you gonna lead the charge.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    hurler32 wrote: »
    Many of the present government of Fine Gael .. Charlie Flanagan etc would identify themselves as British so where’s the big deal ?
    yeah, but 800 years


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