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Nest v Climote queries

25.01.2019 15:41 #1
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Apologies if this has been asked before.

I just ordered a Nest learning thermostat for my home to replace the old heating timer on the kitchen wall.  I also have two analogue type thermostats in the house (one in the hall and the other upstairs) The main reason I wanted a smart thermostat is so that I can switch my heating on or off remotely through my phone and control the temperature at the same time.  

However after a bit of further reading up on the Nest I have learned that Nest has a sensor that can tell when you are away and goes into Eco model to save energy but doesn't actually shut the heating off.  Is this correct?  The reason I ask is that I don't really want the heating to stay on when there is nobody at home for hours as it's just wasted energy.  I do however want the ability to switch the heating on remotely say 20 or 30 minutes before someone comes home so that they don't come home to a cold house.  Reading up on Nest it will detect someone coming home and up the temperature when they approach the house but that's not really enough as you are practically at the front door at that stage and the house takes time to warm up.  Maybe my information is wrong but that's the way I understood how it works.

Would a Climote be more suitable for what I want but my only drawback is that Climote uses an outdated GSM SIM card system and an annual subscription which I really don't want these days.
25.01.2019 18:31 #2
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Originally posted by bazz26
Apologies if this has been asked before.

I just ordered a Nest learning thermostat for my home to replace the old heating timer on the kitchen wall.  I also have two analogue type thermostats in the house (one in the hall and the other upstairs) The main reason I wanted a smart thermostat is so that I can switch my heating on or off remotely through my phone and control the temperature at the same time.  

However after a bit of further reading up on the Nest I have learned that Nest has a sensor that can tell when you are away and goes into Eco model to save energy but doesn't actually shut the heating off.  Is this correct?  The reason I ask is that I don't really want the heating to stay on when there is nobody at home for hours as it's just wasted energy.  I do however want the ability to switch the heating on remotely say 20 or 30 minutes before someone comes home so that they don't come home to a cold house.  Reading up on Nest it will detect someone coming home and up the temperature when they approach the house but that's not really enough as you are practically at the front door at that stage and the house takes time to warm up.  Maybe my information is wrong but that's the way I understood how it works.

Would a Climote be more suitable for what I want but my only drawback is that Climote uses an outdated GSM SIM card system and an annual subscription which I really don't want these days.

The nest can be controlled via the app. Eco mode on the Nest means the heating is off (not consuming anything).

The nest uses a leaning function to pick up when to come on, go off, and what temperate but you can override the control from the Nest or the app. 
You have the option to switch off the learning function and just use it as a standard time clock like you currently have with a mobile element.

The climate does the same as the timeclock with the app/SMS element. 
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25.01.2019 18:37 #3
Registered User
Originally posted by Davy
Originally posted by bazz26
Apologies if this has been asked before.

I just ordered a Nest learning thermostat for my home to replace the old heating timer on the kitchen wall.  I also have two analogue type thermostats in the house (one in the hall and the other upstairs) The main reason I wanted a smart thermostat is so that I can switch my heating on or off remotely through my phone and control the temperature at the same time.  

However after a bit of further reading up on the Nest I have learned that Nest has a sensor that can tell when you are away and goes into Eco model to save energy but doesn't actually shut the heating off.  Is this correct?  The reason I ask is that I don't really want the heating to stay on when there is nobody at home for hours as it's just wasted energy.  I do however want the ability to switch the heating on remotely say 20 or 30 minutes before someone comes home so that they don't come home to a cold house.  Reading up on Nest it will detect someone coming home and up the temperature when they approach the house but that's not really enough as you are practically at the front door at that stage and the house takes time to warm up.  Maybe my information is wrong but that's the way I understood how it works.

Would a Climote be more suitable for what I want but my only drawback is that Climote uses an outdated GSM SIM card system and an annual subscription which I really don't want these days.

The nest can be controlled via the app. Eco mode on the Nest means the heating is off (not consuming anything).

The nest uses a leaning function to pick up when to come on, go off, and what temperate but you can override the control from the Nest or the app. 
You have the option to switch off the learning function and just use it as a standard time clock like you currently have with a mobile element.

The climate does the same as the timeclock with the app/SMS element. 

I spoke to Electric Ireland and that is pretty much what they said too.   Thanks for the info and help.
28.01.2019 09:36 #4
Hi bazz26,

Apologies for the delay.

For any queries about the technical aspect of the Nest Smart Learning Thermostat, just contact Electric Ireland Home Services directly on 1850 372 333 or contact Nest Ireland itself.

We can advise that the Nest thermostat controls one heating zone and hot water, and the Climote controls two heating zones and hot water. Here are the contact details for Climote also.

Best regards,
Una
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