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Throwback Thursday

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    For Throwback Thursday this week we are going back a mere twenty-six years to 1990. At the time there was only bus service from the Dublin city to Dublin Airport and it was operated by Dublin Bus. Summerhill Garage provided the buses and it operated from Bus Aras to the airport. It had no fleet number, buses were in standard livery, and the timetable was not very frequent. Three years after this picture was taken and the route was transformed into "Airlink", with a distinctive livery, an increase in frequency and new single-deck buses. It also became route 747. Today it is still running, with double-deck buses and operates every ten-minues from Heuston Station to Dublin Airport. It also still serves this bus stop at Bus Aras. KC 30 is seen at Bus Aras (note the destination spelling on the bus) after arriving from the Airport. 19/05/1990

    26839969570_0d0fae72ff_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (20) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A day late this week but I am sure that will not result in a major crisis, though does make this Throwback Friday.
    It is a short trip back to 2008 and RV 461 is seen heading south on O'Connell Street with a 14 to Ballinteer. This was before Network Direct made it into a cross-city route shared between two garages. At this time is was a Donnybrook route and only reached as far north as Parnell Square. On the southside it also only made it to Ballinteer, though the 14A did make it all the way to Dundrum where the 14 goes today. The bus is also passing Clery's which was still open for business at the time. The final RV bus was withdrawn in 2012. 26/05/2008

    27288042305_e2e707b738_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (21) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    95% punctuality is a record most operators can only dream off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Csalem wrote:
    For Throwback Thursday this week we are going back to a scene that is no longer with us. KD 157 is seen arriving at Dun Laoghaire harbour. Although the display is showing 46A, it is in fact arriving to bring ferry passengers from the Holyhead car-ferry into Dublin City Centre. Beside it is the old harbour building that was attached to the original harbour railway station. This building was demolished a few years ago. The ferry also originally moved a few metres to a new port building when it became the HSS service. This service too has ceased. The bus service too ceased too when the HSS started as the new building was close to the railway station. 21/04/1992

    Some great photo csalem.

    One thing about these that had me curious as a kid was the little black panel, below the 46a in the destination blind in that photo.

    I'm pretty sure they were not on all KD buses and I never saw one once on any of phibsboros KD fleet.

    What was the purpose of it and why not on all buses?


  • Registered Users Posts: 368 ✭✭clunked


    It was an illuminated sign saying BUS FULL. The one on the side was either 'Pay as You Enter' or 'Pay Conductor' as OPO was been introduced at that time. The 46A being one of the first major routes to be converted in Summer 1987.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭liger


    Csalem wrote: »
    a 14 to Ballinteer. This was before Network Direct made it into a cross-city route shared between two garages. At this time is was a Donnybrook route and only reached as far north as Parnell Square. On the southside it also only made it to Ballinteer, though the 14A did make it all the way to Dundrum where the 14 goes today.

    27288042305_e2e707b738_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (21) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    The 14 & 14A both went to dundrum. The bill also contained the 48A which went to ballinteer. This poor bus is just scrolled incorrectly.

    Another nod to the old days of the attitude of "sure the skulls know where the bus goes", an attitude that spawned a culture of nobody paying attention to the destination scrolls today. 145 to UCD.... UCD last stop.... passengers in disbelief...... " But this is a 145!!!!! "


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,483 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    liger wrote: »
    The 14 & 14A both went to dundrum. The bill also contained the 48A which went to ballinteer. This poor bus is just scrolled incorrectly.

    Another nod to the old days of the attitude of "sure the skulls know where the bus goes", an attitude that spawned a culture of nobody paying attention to the destination scrolls today. 145 to UCD.... UCD last stop.... passengers in disbelief...... " But this is a 145!!!!! "

    Both the 14 and 14a did actually terminate in Ballinteer until 2004 just before the roundabout at the junction of Stonemasons Way and Broadford Road - it was only when the LUAS opened that they were both extended to Dundrum.

    The main scrolls didn't have Dundrum on them as a destination, so the general practice was to have Ballinteer on the main one and "via Dundrum" on the lower one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Throwback Thursday this week is going back to 1985. KC 82 is seen sitting outside the station at Bray prior to working a route 85 to Shop River. When the local routes around Bray were reorganised in the 1990s, this became the 185 to Shop River (via Enniskerry). Later some 185 departures were introduced to just Palermo. 01/06/1985

    26821296414_8c1e8a73b4_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (22) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭thomasj


    liger wrote:
    Another nod to the old days of the attitude of "sure the skulls know where the bus goes", an attitude that spawned a culture of nobody paying attention to the destination scrolls today. 145 to UCD.... UCD last stop.... passengers in disbelief...... " But this is a 145!!!!! "

    And actually the destination scroll says ucd campus, but the bus only goes as far as the flyover.


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭McAlban


    Csalem wrote: »
    Throwback Thursday this week is going back to 1985. KC 82 is seen sitting outside the station at Bray prior to working a route 85 to Shop River. When the local routes around Bray were reorganised in the 1990s, this became the 185 to Shop River (via Enniskerry). Later some 185 departures were introduced to just Palermo. 01/06/1985

    26821296414_8c1e8a73b4_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (22) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    Tis Like a Dart on Wheels


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    thomasj wrote: »
    And actually the destination scroll says ucd campus, but the bus only goes as far as the flyover.

    It is better now with just the two options for the destination display :"UCD Belfield" and "UCD Campus" but I recall up until about six years ago there was five or six display options for UCD. It seemed every garage had their own version.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    Throwback Thursday this week is going back to 1993 and a time of great change in Dublin Bus. In 1992 Dublin Bus introduced the City Imp concept onto the streets of Dublin. The yellow/red minibuses took over routes were passenger numbers were falling and operated at high frequencies, serving the housing estates on the north and southside of Dublin. The following year Dublin Bus introduced the concept of Dity Swift. Again it operated at high frequencies, up to every six minutes, but served destinations further out from the city centre. New buses were introduced on the route in an eye-catching new livery, as well as new style bus shelters, some of which contained pay-phones.
    The first route to go over to CitySwift was the 39 on the 6th June 1993. Other routes eventually included routes such as the 25A, 27, 46A and the change normally happened as the Quality Bus Network was rolled out. The City Swift concept only lasted about a decade. P 17 loads up at the Abbey Street terminus prior to departing for Clonsilla. 09/06/1993

    27484332141_0d25be95d5_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (23) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,656 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    That's still my favourite major livery, especially on the RAs, RVs and AVs. It looked terrible when retrospectively applied to the RHs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    dfx- wrote: »
    That's still my favourite major livery, especially on the RAs, RVs and AVs. It looked terrible when retrospectively applied to the RHs.

    It and City Imp were quite a revolution in livery terms when introduced, breaking up the two-tone green monopoly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭john boye


    lxflyer wrote: »
    Both the 14 and 14a did actually terminate in Ballinteer until 2004 just before the roundabout at the junction of Stonemasons Way and Broadford Road - it was only when the LUAS opened that they were both extended to Dundrum.

    The main scrolls didn't have Dundrum on them as a destination, so the general practice was to have Ballinteer on the main one and "via Dundrum" on the lower one.

    With the "via" part taped over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week for Throwback Thursday we are going back to 1999 and visiting a route that survived four months. on the 14th June route 61A commenced though it was more commonly known as "Hotel Link". It ran in a loop to/from Bus Aras and served Mount Street, Lansdowne Road, Leeson Street and Christchurch and was designed to connect the hotels with the City Centre. It was advertised as "A chauffeur driven Merc for £1" and the minibuses for the route were painted in a modified Airlink livery. Sadly it did not last and the route was withdrawn on the 17th October 1999.
    The buses then transferred to a new bus route, 321, which commenced on the 6th December 1999 but this route only lasted until 1st April 2000.
    Today Dublin Bus operate route 705 which is a hotel shuttle that operates in connection with the City Tour. ME 23 is seen at Bus Aras. 15/06/1999

    27676989306_724b6ef599_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (24) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week we are going back to 2003. That was the year when then Special Olympics came to Dublin. The games took place in a number of venues around the city from the 21st-29th June. Dublin Bus provided a shuttle bus service between the venues with the Red and Yellow routes running from the Phoenix Park. The WV-class of buses were used as they were low-floor and easily accesible which resulted in some unusual buses on the routes the WVs normally operated on.
    WV 25 is seen at the Phoenix Park terminus while operating the Yellow Route. 22/06/2003

    27776467361_c3d731364e_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (25) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip back in time this week of twenty-six years to 1990. KD 1 is seen at a bus rally in the Phoenix Park. This was the first of 366 KD buses delivered to CIE between 1980 and 1983. These buses were built in Shannon by Bombardier and an extra one was built for and shipped to Baghdad. KD 1 itself was built in Hamburg in Germany by FFG. The last KD was withdrawn by Dublin Bus in 2000. KD 1 was based in Donnybrook Garage and that is reflected in the scrolls for route 8 in the photograph. This was the first route to have a KD operate on it. In light of recent sporting events, the ad for the World Cup in Italy is quite topical. Phoenix Park 30/06/1990

    27722690080_6f70e57012_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (26) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭liger


    Csalem wrote: »
    an extra one was built for and shipped to Baghdad.

    Really. What was the story behind that? 1990 would be gulf war era.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    liger wrote: »
    Really. What was the story behind that? 1990 would be gulf war era.

    It was built around 1982. Details and photos here:
    http://garaiste.yuku.com/topic/9653#.V3Y3VDUmOfg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip back to 1983 this week and revisit to route 44A. At the time routes 44 and 44B served respectively Enniskerry and Glencullen on the southside of Dublin but the 44A was a bit of an outlier. It served Clontarf and Dollymount on the northside. The route received this number through a desire to fill in the gaps in the already existing route number library, even though the 44A never interacted with its southside cousins. The route lasted until 1996 when it was merged with route 30 and became City Imp route 130. D 614 is seen on Mount Prospect Avenue with a 44A to Mount Prospect Avenue. 05/07/1983

    28154939085_04ccfb6f9f_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (27) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week it is a trip back to 1990 to a bus that is no longer with us, a route that is no longer with us and a road that is currently undergoing a massive change.
    KD 152 is seen parked between duties on Marlborough Street. It is operating route 28 to Edenmore. This route lasted until 1996 when it was merged with the 42A. This route itself lasted until 2011 when it was replaced with the current 27A.
    Marlborough Street is currently being rebuilt as part of Luas Cross City and the southbound line from Broombridge to St. Stephen's Green is being ;aid where the buses are parked in the photo.
    Finally KD 152 is in an all-over ad for Brylcreem. 14/07/1990

    28200528722_23f15b6e1b_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (28) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip back twenty-five years this week and another KD in an all-over ad. KD 363 is seen on Eden Quay after terminating with a 7 from Loughlinstown. The bus is in an all-over ad for Moss Technology, a company that was founded in Dublin in 1987 but ceased trading a few years ago. Nowadays the 7 goes a little further on the northside to Mountjoy Square and the Rosie Hackett Bridge is at this location. 21/07/1991

    28351717712_492453d5a8_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (29) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A trip back to 1984 this week to KC 1 in Conyngham Road Garage. This was the first of an eventual 202 KC single-deckers built for city services in Ireland. Most were built in the Bombardier factory in Shannon but this one was built in Hamburg by FFG in 1981. The bus lasted fifteen years in service seeing the transition from CIE to Dublin Bus and spent its working life at Conyngham Road. The last KC was withdrawn in Dublin in 2001.

    Dome photos on KC 1 in its original tan livery can be found on Dublinbus.cc:
    http://www.dublinbus.cc/kc1.htm

    Conyngham Road Garage 28/07/1984

    27987790703_6f07a5eb19_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (30) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,814 ✭✭✭rx8


    Nice pic. Very typical of the parking in Conyngham Rd. still to this day.
    Used to do the odd rest - day up there and loved driving these, as they were one of the fastest buses pulling away ever, due to the 4 - stroke engine in them. The KD bus had only a 2 - stroke engine and was also very smokey at times.

    Their replacement, the AD or P type was by far the quickest bus ever to go in to service on our streets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    It's an interesting photo too,as the Van Hool facing Detroit Diesel engined KC1,D803 was retrofitted with the Cummins engine that eventually powered the rest of the KC fleet (the L10/LT10) and operated as an in-service testbed for the motor (One of the best large Diesel Engines ever fitted to a CIE Vehicle).
    In the photo D803 must be under-repair,as its missing it's nearside mirror as well as having the towing-eye in situ ;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users Posts: 756 ✭✭✭liger


    Csalem wrote: »
    A trip back to 1984 this week to KC 1 in Conyngham Road Garage.

    Do you happen to have any photos of the cab design/layout with these older buses. I remember the Old D class being semi automatic with the gearshift.


  • Registered Users Posts: 759 ✭✭✭testarossa40


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    It's an interesting photo too,as the Van Hool facing Detroit Diesel engined KC1,D803 was retrofitted with the Cummins engine that eventually powered the rest of the KC fleet (the L10/LT10) and operated as an in-service testbed for the motor (One of the best large Diesel Engines ever fitted to a CIE Vehicle).
    In the photo D803 must be under-repair,as its missing it's nearside mirror as well as having the towing-eye in situ ;)
    Fascinating! Until now I'd absolutely no idea a Cummins engine had been fitted to a VanHool testbed. I always thought KD146 served that role!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    liger wrote: »
    Do you happen to have any photos of the cab design/layout with these older buses. I remember the Old D class being semi automatic with the gearshift.

    Sadly I do not.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week it is a trip back to 1991 and a short-lived shuttle bus. MW 7 was one of a number of mini buses delivered to Dublin Bus in 1990. It was used on local services in Tallaght, as well as a shuttle for Superquinn before taking up duties on this shuttle for the Irish Museum of Modern Art. It connected that institution in Kilmainham with the City Centre, but it did not last long. To show of its different status to normal buses it has "VIP" shown as a route number. Dawson Street 04/08/1991

    28727339556_4820b9a6ba_c.jpgThrowback Thursday (31) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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