Warhammer: Total War

Falthyron wrote: »

Yep!

That's a great shame. Would love to play a proper campaign with a few people, ah well maybe some day

J Mysterio wrote: »

Damn this glorious weather. I cant justify playing the game with it!

I find games more enjoyable when its really sunny outside....and the curtains closed.

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Well, I've found something that's virtually making it unplayable (from a gameplay point of view for me).

I'm mid-late game, armies invading from the north (I'm the Empire) so they're basically hell bent on just razing/sacking everything. Loads of them, but that's OK, I've good quality troops. However, I can't catch the bastards. They're always in forced march stance, which means I can't catch them, and when I chase after one - they end up grouping up. So I have to send two armies after them. OK. Still can't catch them. If I try and catch them between two armies, they just gang up on one of them, meaning I can't fight them. I genuinely can't see a solution to this, other than "Have **** loads of armies" which isn't feasible economy wise. AI allies/vassals I have don't send troops to help despite me flagging enemy armies as things to tagteam. If you put yourself into forced march, you can't attack. Witch Hunter's seem to find it very difficult to block armies. I have my Lords and lads with me running Campaign Range +% followers etc. Still nothing.

It's infuriating.

Looking online, this seems to have been flagged in Attila as well. It's made my campaign almost unplayable, and it's a real shame. I was having a ball.

This is what I call the modern Total War whack-a-mole AI and I hated it in Rome 2. Not this exactly, but their total unwillingness to engage while running back and forth with the relentlessness and monotony that only a robot could bear. Not encouraging

I was kinda enjoying it to start with but it gets pretty annoying due to the AI.
Hate deploying my troops into a good position, for it to be a waste of time because the AI refuses to move until you've marched 2/3rds of the field to engage them.
Then there is okie cokie army's who will run away and come back which are impossible to catch.
God help you once the chaos arrive with thier endless streams of full block armies. I can't seem to have more than 1 elite VC army.
Oh and don't get me started on the unkillable wandering hero dudes. My lands get flooded with them and I can't get rid of them no matter how many times I try to assassinat them.

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Well, I've found something that's virtually making it unplayable (from a gameplay point of view for me).

I'm mid-late game, armies invading from the north (I'm the Empire) so they're basically hell bent on just razing/sacking everything. Loads of them, but that's OK, I've good quality troops. However, I can't catch the bastards. They're always in forced march stance, which means I can't catch them, and when I chase after one - they end up grouping up. So I have to send two armies after them. OK. Still can't catch them. If I try and catch them between two armies, they just gang up on one of them, meaning I can't fight them. I genuinely can't see a solution to this, other than "Have **** loads of armies" which isn't feasible economy wise. AI allies/vassals I have don't send troops to help despite me flagging enemy armies as things to tagteam. If you put yourself into forced march, you can't attack. Witch Hunter's seem to find it very difficult to block armies. I have my Lords and lads with me running Campaign Range +% followers etc. Still nothing.

It's infuriating.

Looking online, this seems to have been flagged in Attila as well. It's made my campaign almost unplayable, and it's a real shame. I was having a ball.

I had a similar problem with an enemy army, they were in forced march and I could not catch them, went on for about 10 turns.

In the end I bribed them to make peace and slaughtered them the next turn.

Just curious, is the actual table top warhammer fantasy game much less popular than the 40K setting game?

I read somewhere that the fantasy setting had been declining in popularity in recent years.

Spear wrote: »

It was always much less popular than 40K, hence the recent attempt to re-invent it with Age of Sigmar.

Subsequently pissing off most of the actual Warhammer Fantasy players out there, so I hear.

I'm struggling with the vamps, anyone have a guide on how to play them properly my armies keep getting crushed

Lone Stone wrote: »

I'm struggling with the vamps, anyone have a guide on how to play them properly my armies keep getting crushed

You take your zombies/skeletons/grave guard and drive them up the middle. Stretch them wide so they take up a lot of room. The idea is the enemy force will engage with them. They are your tanks/meatshield. They are nearly 100% going to be cheaper to replace than what the enemy is throwing against them. Once they have engaged, you flank with your Big hitters and smash them.

Use bats to go after their missiles early to keep them pre-occupied. You can upgrade the bats to make them better or just leave them with base stats. The thing to remember is their job is just to stop the missiles hitting more important stuff. Bats are super cheap to replenish so losing them is fine. Vargheists are just superior bats. They have no armor so you don't just engage them willy nilly.....you send in your skellies first and then you drop the Vargheists on them from above. The idea being they wont get hit and their ridiculous DPS will break the enemy quickly.

Varghulf's are brilliant anti armor units so charge them into the biggest armored thing they have. They can also break down doors in sieges.

Terrorgheists kill nearly everything so having 1 or 2 per stack is always a good idea. The only thing to avoid is sending them 1v1 against armor piercing stuff with a ton of hp.....like big ogre type creatures. Send in a single unit of grave guard first to engage the ogre, then you land behind him and knock him down. They can fly so you can manoeuvre them so easily.

Use Soul siphon on the enemy commander as much as you can. It's brilliant. The other spells are "okay" but keep in mind the offensive ones have friendly fire so watch out for that.

When the battle is over, use the raise dead option to cheaply replenish your units. If it was a massive battle, you can recruit a lot. And not always like for like. For example, you can lose 10 stacks of cheap zombies.....and raise a much better unit to replace them even if you don't have the tech for it in your towns.

Expanding is tricky. The key is to get the tier 2 corruption building that spreads corruption to neighbouring provinces....and also send an agent and "deploy" them in the enemy territory to spread it faster.

pablomakaveli wrote: »

GW really missed an oppurtunity with this game to give the fantasy version a shot in the arm. I reckon a lot of people who play the game might decide to get into the hobby only to find its been messed.

People are going to be disappointed at what they find if they look for the fantasy tabletop game and find the mutilated wretch it is now.

The advent of these computer games means the few brave souls still playing the physical game or those looking to start will abandon it to play them. Much cheaper, much better.

I'm just glad a fantastic universe I grew up with survives in some form.

have never played a total war game before and i'm completely lost. playing vamps, maybe i should have started with empire or something?

i've been playing the dwarfs the last few days, they're really well done as a faction. Reasonably easy to play too