New England Patriots Thread Mod Warning Post #253

Hazys wrote: »

His contract goes till he's 42 which is crazy when you think about it but he's the best QB in the league at the moment

Great news, now we need a new O-line to make sure he can see out that contract.

Thinking about this last night when i was watching some of the combine, they were talking about Jimmy G and what it means for him and then I kinda got a flash forward if you will....Age is age, you can't out train a body getting older. I know he looks after his body but realistically we must be looking at some form of diminished performance or more injury prone over the next season or two.

How does anyone else see TB12 playing out?

Is Jimmy just waiting for that, is he tied contract wise? I know he's learning under the best but surely he'll want a shot at some point

munstermagic11 wrote: »

At some point there has to be a drop-off. But based on last season (when he had a shot at being MVP) I think there's a least 2 years of top level play from him.

Yeah i think so to, defo 1 year. If he stays on his feet.

But i can't help but think about Manning and his record breaking season in 14 then the downward spiral just gone...and i know he ended up with a ring but there are some many different reasons, if brock hadn't have won the couple games etc.

Like i suppose what i am trying to say is, we are going to witness a situation where he is benched or out through injury, likely in the next season or two. It can't last forever.

BKWDR wrote: »

But i can't help but think about Manning and his record breaking season in 14 then the downward spiral just gone...and i know he ended up with a ring but there are some many different reasons, if brock hadn't have won the couple games etc.

That miraculous season for Manning was back in 2013 and his dramatic fall off in 2014, as many have pointed out, correlated with the introduction of HGH testing. The nature of the neck surgeries he had, meant the established medical consensus suggested that he would have been well past his peak when he returned to the game. But Brady isn't Manning, Brady won't even put Coca Cola into his body, never mind anything more questionable than that. Some QB's depend on having a big arm, a deep threat and an inevitable PI call to help them on the field. So when they inevitable age & decline comes and lose their arm strength, they're pretty much screwed.

But Brady is different than most, he's never relied on a big arm or needing a go up and grab it WR to bail him out. He's also been blessed with perfect throwing mechanics and he continues to find ways to improve it even now. Brady's greatest weapon is the one thing that won't diminish with age, in fact it will get better and that weapon is his game brain and his lightning fast decision making on the field. I think he commented after the 2014 SB win, that he finds the game slower than ever now and that's a scary thing for opposing defenses to hear.

Last season, before we started getting wiped out with injuries the 38 year old Brady was on course for a record year for TD's & passing yards. We watched him getting smashed by the Broncos defense and the tough old SOB still could have won it for us in the end. In the SB we watched the huge & highly mobile Cam Newton, wilt and give up in the face of the same Broncos defense. There's no tougher QB in the league than Brady and all we got to do is give him a decent O line and he'll do the rest.

One thing I'm confident we won't see is, the kind of sudden & dramatic decline Manning had. I never seen anything like that, it was just sad to watch. With Brady, I won't be in the least bit surprised if he's getting another 2 year extension in 2018. Barring him not getting injured, I think his decline will be more gradual and he'll probably end up playing at a level that the average league QB is currently playing at. And maybe Stringer is right when he quoted Brady's dad, maybe it could end badly in the end. But looking at the standard setting level he played at in 2015 and his famous fanaticism for minding his body and trying to improve, I'll be shocked if the bad ending comes before the end of his new contract extension.

JCTO wrote: »

As much as we want to knock Manning how do any of us know no Pats player has ever used HGH in injury recovery in the past including #12. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the majority of NFL players are using it to aid recovery.

We already know that Harrison used it to recover from injury while a Pat.

Lafell and Scott Chandler both released

me89 wrote: »

Lafell and Scott Chandler both released

That is why we are a winning franchise every season, there is no room for sentiment with BB in charge. LaFell did well in 2014 but didn't do well last season and he is gone. Chandler looked promising at times but that is not good enough for Bill.

Surprised the dropped Tyms, was he not still on the PS? shame he got hurt when he did, was showing some potential.

I wouldn't be prepared to call either Sanu or Williams a big move.

Happy to see Devlin signed a 1 year deal