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Airport Police Student Officer - Recruitment Campaign 2015/16

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  • #2
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Another great find!!


  • #3
    Johannes_Cabal
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Another great find!!

    Haha I wouldn't call it great, only looking to recruit 2 people, not really a campaign....

    You do a 2 year apprenticeship followed by 6 months at Garnerville, so don't know what would be involved during the 2 years.


  • #4
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Yeah, I saw that bit. Definitely have lots of questions for their open session.

    At least the salary will be 'above the National Minimum Wage' lol


  • #5
    Johannes_Cabal
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    Homer01 wrote: »
    Yeah, I saw that bit. Definitely have lots of questions for their open session.

    At least the salary will be 'above the National Minimum Wage' lol

    Haha, I wonder by how much.

    Also the section about the job only being contracted over the training programme and that any job after is subject to vacancies. I can't imagine they would spend 2+ years training recruits just to tell them to jog on.

    I don't understand why they require full colour vision either, do they expect much bomb disposal being performed in daily duties? It's the same with Airport Fire Brigade.


  • #6
    D4z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    Johannes_Cabal wrote: »
    Haha, I wonder by how much.
    I don't understand why they require full colour vision either, do they expect much bomb disposal being performed in daily duties? It's the same with Airport Fire Brigade.

    I'm wondering this myself, means I'm unable to apply. Strange how Met officers who police Heathrow don't require this...

    This happened in Scotland:
    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/scotland/362005/police-scotland-reverse-ban-colour-blind-officers/


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  • #7
    Dekkers
    Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭Dekkers


    D4z wrote: »
    I'm wondering this myself, means I'm unable to apply. Strange how Met officers who police Heathrow don't require this...

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    The met could do with a few colour blind officers too!


  • #8
    Johannes_Cabal
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    D4z wrote: »
    I'm wondering this myself, means I'm unable to apply. Strange how Met officers who police Heathrow don't require this...

    This happened in Scotland:
    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/scotland/362005/police-scotland-reverse-ban-colour-blind-officers/

    I think it should be down to each individual case, taking into account type of colourblindness and how severe it is.

    I was diagnosed as colour blind as a child but passed(ironically with flying colours) the PSNI test at the medical.


  • #9
    D4z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    Johannes_Cabal wrote: »
    I think it should be down to each individual case, taking into account type of colourblindness and how severe it is.

    I was diagnosed as colour blind as a child but passed(ironically with flying colours) the PSNI test at the medical.

    Out of curiosity, what colour blind test was involved in the PSNI test? I read online they do some university test and not those colour dot drawings with the number inside?


  • #10
    Johannes_Cabal
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    D4z wrote: »
    Out of curiosity, what colour blind test was involved in the PSNI test? I read online they do some university test and not those colour dot drawings with the number inside?

    It's not the dots test. I had never taken the one they used before.

    Just a book with several squares of a particular colour with one being slightly different and you have to point out which one it is.

    I thought that if I were to fail on the medical it would be down to colourblindness but was lucky enough to pass.


  • #11
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Anyone apply for this?


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  • #12
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    There was about 100 people at the information session today.
    There must've been someone else from here.


  • #13
    D4z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    I went today. I discussed their reasoning behind the full colour vision requirement, was told to apply anyway as the main reason was for driving on the runway and being able to see the lights on there.

    Seemed promising, although the event was a waste of time.


  • #14
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    So glad you said that. It seemed very disjointed; talked more about their company values and mission statement than anything else.

    Not sure about this one. If selected you do some basic police training with PSNI and the rest in house. You are then a probation officer for two years; AFTER that you then do your 22 weeks in Garnerville. Sounds a bit upside down to me.


  • #15
    Ryan561
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Ryan561


    It was due to start at five, if I remember rightly it was over short after 5, complete joke having it


  • #16
    UsidoreTheBlue
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭UsidoreTheBlue


    Homer01 wrote:
    There was about 100 people at the information session today. There must've been someone else from here.


    Yep. I wasn't too impressed. It's getting a bit concerning how evasive they are around the payscale. I have two kids and a mortgage, so it's kind of important for me to get a bit of an idea!


  • #17
    Pmac773
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭Pmac773


    I was there myself, was a total waste of an hour long journey! An online application would have been so much easier, don't exactly understand about garnerville being after the 2 year probation myself!


  • #18
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    What was said re salary?
    They must have an idea of what they want to pay based on student officers in other forces local and mainland.


  • #19
    Pmac773
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭Pmac773


    Homer01 wrote: »
    What was said re salary?
    They must have an idea of what they want to pay based on student officers in other forces local and mainland.

    Nothing was said about it, I assume that will be discussed at interview! Honestly not sure what I make of it!


  • #20
    Pmac773
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭Pmac773


    I was there myself, was a total waste of an hour long journey! An online application would have been so much easier, don't exactly understand about garnerville being after the 2 year probation myself!


  • #21
    D4z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    Pmac773 wrote: »
    I was there myself, was a total waste of an hour long journey! An online application would have been so much easier, don't exactly understand about garnerville being after the 2 year probation myself!

    If it was just an online application more people would have applied, I'm not sure how many sessions of the event they're having but the one I was at didn't have many people. I assume attending the event shows you're more keen than just completing an application and that is who they want?

    I'm on the same boat as you on GV.


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  • #22
    Pmac773
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭Pmac773


    D4z wrote: »
    If it was just an online application more people would have applied, I'm not sure how many sessions of the event they're having but the one I was at didn't have many people. I assume attending the event shows you're more keen than just completing an application and that is who they want?

    I'm on the same boat as you on GV.

    They were holding 2 sessions from what I'm aware of! I wonder is it possible to get a transfer to the PSNI after the 2 years and on successful completion of garnerville? Cause I assume they go through it with a squad of PSNI recruits?


  • #23
    pingu2008
    Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭pingu2008


    The Police Service does not normally have a direct transfer mechanism at the rank of Constable because of the current temporary legislation governing appointment to the Service at this rank ("50/50" as per paragraph 46 (1) of the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000), but serving officers can, and do, apply through the external recruitment process.

    If successful, training is condensed and service is usually carried forward from the previous force.

    It should be noted that the Police Service has on occasions in the past sought 'set-aside' to this legislation to allow direct recruitment of Detective Constables from the United Kingdom to address an exceptional organisational skills shortage in this area. When such processes occur they are advertised in national police publications, however there are no plans to repeat this process in the short term.

    This job at the airport is for a private police force you are only a constable within the airport lands and property once your off duty you go back to being an ordinary Joe soap where as if a member of the psni your always a constable on or off duty, this job your basically a special constable and could not transfer unless you do the whole recruit course with the psni


  • #24
    Johannes_Cabal
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Johannes_Cabal


    pingu2008 wrote: »
    The Police Service does not normally have a direct transfer mechanism at the rank of Constable because of the current temporary legislation governing appointment to the Service at this rank ("50/50" as per paragraph 46 (1) of the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000), but serving officers can, and do, apply through the external recruitment process.

    The PSNI aren't currently carrying out 50:50 recruitment.


  • #25
    D4z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    pingu2008 wrote: »
    could not transfer unless you do the whole recruit course with the psni

    Afaik you're unable to transfer unless you're a high ranking officer, however more on the point on the training.. if given this role you would attend GV along with PSNI recruits and complete 22 weeks there with them.


  • #26
    MikeOneJuliet
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭MikeOneJuliet


    D4z wrote: »
    Afaik you're unable to transfer unless you're a high ranking officer, however more on the point on the training.. if given this role you would attend GV along with PSNI recruits and complete 22 weeks there with them.

    As far as I'm aware there is currently a lady in GV doing this. Makes sense now. I didn't understand it before


  • #27
    Homer01
    Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭Homer01


    Can't be BIA police. The sergeant at the session said this was there first recruitment in a very long time.

    Maybe from BHP as they had an intake a few years ago.

    On a side note the PSNI do have the best looking uniform and that includes any mainland force :D


  • #28
    D4z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    Did anyone apply for this and hear anything about their application? I sent mine in but didn't get any response to even say it was received.


  • #29
    Ryan561
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Ryan561


    D4z wrote: »
    Did anyone apply for this and hear anything about their application? I sent mine in but didn't get any response to even say it was received.

    I'm the same, when it was for the fire service apprenticeship they didn't sent us anything to let us know. No news is good news!


  • #30
    D4z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 248 ✭✭D4z


    Got the shortlisted letter today.


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  • #31
    Ryan561
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Ryan561


    D4z wrote: »
    Got the shortlisted letter today.

    Yea sames


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