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Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

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  • #2582
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,872 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Nobody is paying 80 million up front for a 19 year old. Nobody. Not even if his name was Messi ronaldo pele maradonna
    Nobody said it would be up front. Transfer prices are rarely all up front. Ah sure it might be only 55 or 60 if he ends up being ****. No biggie.


  • #2583
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    CSF wrote: »
    Nobody said it would be up front. Transfer prices are rarely all up front. Ah sure it might be only 55 or 60 if he ends up being ****. No biggie.

    then it's not 80, I could say I signed a contract but if it's not all guaranteed then who cares, if this buck leads them to the pl and champions league, then have yer 80 million, be worth it


  • #2584
    Paully D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Mbokani to Norwich on loan. I think that's an excellent pick up for them. On another planet to Cameron Jerome and Lewis Grabban anyway. A huge improvement.


  • #2585
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Maybe they added the guy's salary as well to come to a complete deal?
    Whatever... stupid money.
    Saw him 90 minutes or so in a match versus a make shift Dutch u21 side a few months ago. France being a much stronger (physically) side than Holland but i cant say i fell of my chair of what i saw of him.


  • #2586
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Monaco will probably never see the add ons unless he turns into a world beater and then United won't really care handing it over

    Still 36 million is mad for an untested 19 year old, Shaw showed form as one of the best left backs in the league for 2 seasons before we paid mega money for him


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  • #2587
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,872 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    then it's not 80, I could say I signed a contract but if it's not all guaranteed then who cares, if this buck leads them to the pl and champions league, then have yer 80 million, be worth it
    But that is how all transfers work. Sterling, Stones, De Bruyne, the works. You can't just ignore it in this instance but talk about the full fees in all the others.


  • #2588
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    CSF wrote: »
    But that is how all transfers work. Sterling, Stones, De Bruyne, the works. You can't just ignore it in this instance but talk about the full fees in all the others.

    I said nothing about those fees.


  • #2589
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,872 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    I said nothing about those fees.
    I never said you did, I was speaking in general. You can't just twist the figures out of context when it suits like. This if it happens at that price (which I do have my doubts over because it would be crazy) would be bigger than the Sterling fee. Heading closer to the Suarez fee


  • #2590
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,071 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    CantGetNoSleep wrote: »
    Maybe Neymar?

    Thinking this might possibly be it


  • #2591
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    CSF wrote: »
    I never said you did, I was speaking in general. You can't just twist the figures out of context when it suits like. This if it happens at that price (which I do have my doubts over because it would be crazy) would be bigger than the Sterling fee. Heading closer to the Suarez fee

    not a hope it's near the 80 million, if you are throwing that out you try to get pogba back not a wee buck. I reckon it's the 50 million but wont know till it's announced


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  • #2592
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,872 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    not a hope it's near the 80 million, if you are throwing that out you try to get pogba back not a wee buck. I reckon it's the 50 million but wont know till it's announced
    Pogba wouldn't join United, but 80 million (euros now not sterling) is the fee Monaco are reporting. I'll have to see it to believe it too but that is what we have at the moment.


  • #2593
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Nobody is paying 80 million up front for a 19 year old. Nobody. Not even if his name was Messi ronaldo pele maradonna

    It wont all be paid up front, as far as I understand it, the deal is structured as €60 million up front, €15 million in guaranteed incentives and €5 million in performance related bonuses. It's an eye-watering amount of money to pay for a 19 year old with 8 goals in Ligue 1.

    Meanwhile it seems De Gea's move to Real Madrid has crashed and burned in spectacular fashion. Seems it is off.


  • #2594
    CantGetNoSleep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    It wont all be paid up front, as far as I understand it, the deal is structured as €60 million up front, €15 million in guaranteed incentives and €5 million in performance related bonuses. It's an eye-watering amount of money to pay for a 19 year old with 8 goals in Ligue 1.

    Meanwhile it seems De Gea's move to Real Madrid has crashed and burned in spectacular fashion. Seems it is off.

    I am really loving all of this I must admit, gonna have to phone in sick to work tomorrow


  • #2595
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    It wont all be paid up front, as far as I understand it, the deal is structured as €60 million up front, €15 million in guaranteed incentives and €5 million in performance related bonuses. It's an eye-watering amount of money to pay for a 19 year old with 8 goals in Ligue 1.

    Meanwhile it seems De Gea's move to Real Madrid has crashed and burned in spectacular fashion. Seems it is off.

    how can you guarantee an incentive?? they have to hit the target so it can't be guaranteed?


  • #2596
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Man Utd's day



  • #2597
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    CantGetNoSleep wrote: »
    I am really loving all of this I must admit, gonna have to phone in sick to work tomorrow

    It's pretty fantastic drama. Jorge Mendes is rather peeved, that will be interesting in the future given how close his ties are with Man Utd and also that he is rumoured to have played a part in accelerating the Martial deal earlier in the day with the expectation of getting the De Gea to Real Madrid deal done.


  • #2598
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,872 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Not a hope Real will be told no.


  • #2599
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    It wont all be paid up front, as far as I understand it, the deal is structured as €60 million up front, €15 million in guaranteed incentives and €5 million in performance related bonuses. It's an eye-watering amount of money to pay for a 19 year old with 8 goals in Ligue 1.

    Meanwhile it seems De Gea's move to Real Madrid has crashed and burned in spectacular fashion. Seems it is off.

    How can you understand it differently to the BBC etc? What source do you have for that?


  • #2600
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    how can you guarantee an incentive?? they have to hit the target so it can't be guaranteed?

    Not a clue, that's why I suppose I'm not negotiating multi million pound deals though. It's possible that incentive is simply the incorrect word used in that statement. However, as best I can tell, that €15 million is guaranteed. At a guess I'd say that €15 million is simply a staggered payment with no clauses needing to be achieved. The other €5 million is performance related though.


  • #2601
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    De Gea falling through would be great for United. Given what they're willing to spend on Martial, a year of De Gea is definitely worth more than the fee they were reportedly getting for him.


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  • #2602
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,872 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    AdamD wrote: »
    De Gea falling through would be great for United. Given what they're willing to spend on Martial, a year of De Gea is definitely worth more than the fee they were reportedly getting for him.
    Could the relationship be reconciled after this though? De Gea has got to be f*cking fuming right now.


  • #2603
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    CSF wrote: »
    Not a hope Real will be told no.

    This is the same club and super agent that managed to manipulate the selection of the Golden Ball so don't be too surprised.

    Apparently though Man Utd sent the required documents literally 1 minute late, the Spanish FA have confirmed that De Gea wasn't registered in time, apparently he even signed his contract with Real Madrid already. Man Utd clearly not happy with Real Madrid, Mendes or De Gea and have let their anger be known.


  • #2604
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    Liam O wrote: »
    How can you understand it differently to the BBC etc? What source do you have for that?

    The figure BBC are running with is the one Sky used this morning. I'm not quite sure where it came from but it's not the one that media outlets in France are running with, most notably Canal Plus who have had direct confirmation on this from Monaco, my source for this is RMC who broke this story in the first place and have greater credibility than their British counterparts on this occasion.


  • #2605
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,872 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    This is the same club and super agent that managed to manipulate the selection of the Golden Ball so don't be too surprised.

    Apparently though Man Utd sent the required documents literally 1 minute late, the Spanish FA have confirmed that De Gea wasn't registered in time, apparently he even signed his contract with Real Madrid already. Man Utd clearly not happy with Real Madrid, Mendes or De Gea and have let their anger be known.
    I was so ready to go to bed before all of this!!!


  • #2606
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    CSF wrote: »
    Could the relationship be reconciled after this though? De Gea has got to be f*cking fuming right now.

    No. This is as much a middle finger to De Gea as it is Real Madrid and Mendes. Man Utd obviously suffer from this financially but given how they've been treated by Real Madrid in the past and how arrogant Real Madrid were in their pursuit of De Gea this is a big symbolic victory.


  • #2607
    Andersonisgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭Andersonisgod


    CSF wrote: »
    I was so ready to go to bed before all of this!!!

    Haha I was on the verge of watching a episode of Narcos but all the drama tonight is being provided by Man Utd, Real Madrid, Jorge Mendes and a want-away goalkeeper.


  • #2608
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CSF wrote: »
    Could the relationship be reconciled after this though? De Gea has got to be f*cking fuming right now.

    Will he refuse to play the season before the Euros?


  • #2609
    kronsington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,009 ✭✭✭kronsington


    Andersonisgod wrote: »
    Haha I was on the verge of watching a episode of Narcos but all the drama tonight is being provided by Man Utd, Real Madrid, Jorge Mendes and a want-away goalkeeper.

    im at work here- where does mendes fit into the drama?


  • #2610
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,198 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    AdamD wrote: »
    De Gea falling through would be great for United. Given what they're willing to spend on Martial, a year of De Gea is definitely worth more than the fee they were reportedly getting for him.

    Can't imagine he'd be much use for a while. Had signed the contract and will see this as Utd intentionally sabotaging the move.


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  • #2611
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,872 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    AdamD wrote: »
    Will he refuse to play the season before the Euros?
    I really don't know. He'd have from January onward most likely in any case but it is definitely a factor.


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